Let's be Frank...All things Zappa!

Nutes and Nugs

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Had this on a VHS tape and damn near wore it out.


Includes:
  1. "Zoot Allures"
  2. "Tinsel Town Rebellion"
    • City of Tiny Lites (beginning) / interview segment
  3. "More Trouble Every Day"
  4. "Hot Plate Heaven at the Green Hotel" (edited, and including more interview segments)
    • Goblin Girl (beginning) / interview segment
    • The Deathless Horsie (ending)
  5. "The Dangerous Kitchen"
  6. "He's So Gay"
  7. "Bobby Brown Goes Down"
  8. "Keep It Greasy"
  9. "Honey, Don't You Want a Man Like Me?"
    • Carol, You Fool (beginning) / interview segment
  10. "Dinah-Moe Humm"
  11. "Cosmik Debris"
    • (Encore)
  12. "Be in My Video"
  13. "Dancin' Fool"
  14. "Whippin' Post"
 

panhead

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These are the type kids who give me hope that rap bullshit hasn't drained every kids head to a mush pile , these kids care about making music & musicianship .

This kid was 17 in this video , since making it he's opened for Steve Vai and played with Zappa plays Zappa , here he is playing Rat Tomago off the album Shiek yer Booty .


This kid has fast fingers & decent phrasing & does a fair job , this is from the album Zoot Alures & the song is called Black Napkins by another teen aged kid .


Here's another young girl who nails The song The G-Spot Tornado from the album Jazz from hell & my favorite Zappa modern classical album .


I hesitate to even post this young man who holds a place in my heart for fear the site troll will tear apart with his venom to get to me , i'll just say he's a good kid who works hard & leave it at that .

Here " He " is playing a song from the Shut up n Play yer Guitar collection ,the song is Sexual Harassment in the Workplace .

 

panhead

Well-Known Member
Had this on a VHS tape and damn near wore it out.


Includes:
  1. "Zoot Allures"
  2. "Tinsel Town Rebellion"
    • City of Tiny Lites (beginning) / interview segment
  3. "More Trouble Every Day"
  4. "Hot Plate Heaven at the Green Hotel" (edited, and including more interview segments)
    • Goblin Girl (beginning) / interview segment
    • The Deathless Horsie (ending)
  5. "The Dangerous Kitchen"
  6. "He's So Gay"
  7. "Bobby Brown Goes Down"
  8. "Keep It Greasy"
  9. "Honey, Don't You Want a Man Like Me?"
    • Carol, You Fool (beginning) / interview segment
  10. "Dinah-Moe Humm"
  11. "Cosmik Debris"
    • (Encore)
  12. "Be in My Video"
  13. "Dancin' Fool"
  14. "Whippin' Post"
When the internet was new I used to exchange emails & instant messages with Scott Thunes who played bass on much of that set of albums , he hated playing with Frank so bad he quit the business & had nothing good to say about FZ , once Frank died he changed his tune & acted like he loved Frank so he could get back in good with Dweezil & play again , Scott Thunes is the reason all of FZ's last band refused to tour anymore , Frank said fuck it & stopped touring .

I had the chance to meet & speak with Mike Kenally who played guitar in that band & he verified Scott was a major pain in the ass , he did end up playing at the Zappa's Universe tribute days before Frank died then went on a 10 year shit talking rampage about hating Frank, fuck Scott Thunes .
 

Wavels

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Great thread wavels , i cant think of a more important musician in my lifetime , so many innovations he accomplished in music composition have went unthanked by the music industry it sickens me .

Frank was the 1st Composer to incorporate the use of pedals on miked saxaphone , he was also the 1st Composer to use electrified Marimba Vibes in compositions ,his 40 yr old composition The Black Page is still the benchmark of musical achievement for all drummers, Franks style of using complicated super imposed rythms over time & odd order time is unrivaled to this day by any composer ,the music industry said he had no rythmic composition ability or marketability & shunned him .

Frank discovered & gave the 1st shot at the big time for 2 of the biggest rock bands in history when he discovered Alice Cooper & produced Grand Funks 1st album , Frank also taught Paul Schaffer from David Lettermans band how to conduct an orchestra with zero thanks from Paul durring Pauls tribute to the best musical acts to appear on Letterman , lil asswipe he is .

He submitted his 1st Orchestral works with a piece of chamber music at age 17 & Zuben Madea didnt believe a kid could compose serious orchestral music , he taught himself to conduct full orchestras with authority & perfect time by reading a public library book .

It pisses me off that Dweezil won a Grammy for his rendition of one of the most important pieces of music since Beethovens 5th & the Grammy dicks refused to televise Dweezils acceptance of the award & him dedicating the award back to his father , how fucking cool is that where Frank dedicated the album to Dweezil when he was born & Dweezil won a grammy for a song off the album , then dedicated it back to his dad & the grammy morons needed more time for Taylor Swift & Beyonce to do some lip sync teen heart throb bullshit music & never aired the clip & presented him the award to an empty audience with only Gail Zappa & Their kids Diva , Ahmet & Moon Unit in the entire building .

After hearing Freak Out for the 1st time is what inspired me to play guitar in the 1st place , then after hearing Frank play The Translvania Boogie & blow away any composition Hendrix ever did , then get zero critical acclaim i knew how ignorant & biased the music industry was , Jimi Hendrix was illeterate musically but he got critical acclaim as the worlds best guitarist while Zappas compositions were light years ahead of Hendrixs ability to play .

My whole family is into FZ , even my wife was familiar with Franks orchestral works growing up in Beirut Lebanon while 99% of Americans are clueless that America produced a composer who's works are viewed as genius by the orchestral music world & that the London Symphony Orchestra was not able to perform his compositions to their fullest , the LSO made many mistakes while recording the sessions , i'd love to see Snoop Dog or Kid Rock compose music that stumps the worlds most accomplished & most capable orchestra such as the LSO but Kid Rock & Snoop Dog are geniouses , sheer ignorance .

My wife & i both mourned Franks death & still to this day wont watch his last interview , Frank had such an impact on us he's like family , some songs we cant even listen too anymore because the beauty touched us in such a way we feel only sadness , Peaches En Regallia is one of them , Watermellon in Easter hay from Joes Garage will make me burst into tears & we rarely listen to it .

Im gonna have alot more to post in this fan tastic thread , anybody not familiar with FZ should watch the links provided & discover America produced a composer who history will remember alongside the likes of Beethoven, Stravinski & Varees , infact Stravinski played some pieces of Zappas music before he passed away .

Thanks for your input and perspective. Greatly appreciated.
I know that if I had not been introduced to Zappa's music, that I would not have explored and discovered music outside of my then rock-centric point of view.
Thanks Frank!

Zappa mentions Varese as a major influence. Ionisation in particular.
Here it is:
 

Wavels

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Zappa will go down in history as one of the greatest composers in the history of American music.
This is my list of those who will live on as America's best composers.
Not in any order of awesomeness.

Gershwin
Barber
Copeland
Ives
Ellington
ZAPPA.

These men were all able to produce great, readily identifiable American music.

I will provide an example of each and thereby solidify and reinforce Zappa's rightful claim of inclusion
 

Wavels

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Sam Barber... Adagio for strings...

Simply amazing and beautiful.
This has been used in many movies, most notably Platoon...heart wrenching and sublime.
 
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Wavels

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Now here is my case for Zappa's inclusion in the elite upper pantheon of composers:

Sofa.
A simple, deceptively beautiful melody which bears repeated listenings...
Uniquely remarkable.

 
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