LED/T5 Veg, 400W HPS Flower SCOG Cabinet

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Readyman

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Beautiful man!!! Sorry bout your fish though...what a bummer! Thoses LED'S would be a trip to see every day? Im interested in trying them but the ones ive seen are bloody expensive! KUDOS!
 

cutman

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thank you cruzer.seeing those pic gives me hope.its a growing.sry about fish i know that can get costly.
 

loh-pan

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Sorry about the fish, i hate those brain fart moments.
It's too bad, cichlids have an interesting evolutionary past.
 

cruzer101

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Sorry about the fish, i hate those brain fart moments.
It's too bad, cichlids have an interesting evolutionary past.
Yes, from what I understand they were saltwater fish that swam up river and when an earthquake made the ground rise it reversed the river and made a lake that landlocked one type. They have evolved to over 500 different varieties over the last 100,000 years. I originally started collecting them because I liked the way they would eat live goldfish. After I got board of that I continued because of there beautiful colors.

Well, at least my tank is clean now. One good thing is I can add new fish now. If I tried that before they would be fish food.
 

cruzer101

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OK, enough fish talk, On with the grow.

Starting week 7 of flower. Temps are rising and the Spider mites are back. Right on schedule.
I sprayed them with Safers and I will do it again tomorrow. Then the next day with just water to wash it off.
It will take two weeks for them to come back. By then it will be time to cut. :weed:

I let them go for 24 hours without watering. My thinking is I am trying to get the plant to use up the stored
nutrients before the next batch to see if I can cut down on the amount of time it takes to flush.
They were a little droopy when I changed out the res today. 850PPM and 6.0 pH



After about an hour they were back. well except for the tip of one bud that's kinda sideways.
I am going to do it again next week. That should be the final week of nutes.
If they are not ready I will cut nutes in half again for one more week.

Say goodbye to the kids.



They went to my buddy's house today. I prepared they new homes in 5 gallon buckets. Like the camouflage?
They will be placed in between other plants. Just in case someone peeks over the fence they don't see white buckets.



I drilled a one inch hole in the bottom of each one for drainage. We will have five Super Silver Haze
in these buckets and three White widow and one Apollo in the ground.
The haze is suppose to get pretty big so we wanted them in buckets in case we need to move them.

Oh I almost forgot. I wanted to share this pic of a bud I took today with the point and shoot camera. I noticed three or four of the buds fanning out at the top. Here's the shot.



and closer...



I call her flat top.
 

loh-pan

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Its a little late to suggest this, but i just thought of it now. Neem oil is suppose to be good preventative treatment for mites. I heard its not good if you already have an infestation, but just thought i'd throw it out there.

You take some nice pics. What type of camera/lens do you use?

So what happens now? After these lady's finish up what am i suppose to look forward to on RIU?

Oh and happy 4:20
 

cruzer101

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Its a little late to suggest this, but i just thought of it now. Neem oil is suppose to be good preventative treatment for mites. I heard its not good if you already have an infestation, but just thought i'd throw it out there.

You take some nice pics. What type of camera/lens do you use?

So what happens now? After these lady's finish up what am i suppose to look forward to on RIU?

Oh and happy 4:20
Hey loh pan,

Thanks for the info on neem oil. I have heard it was a good treatment but I had already purchased two bottles of Safers spray. I am about out of it and will try neem oil next. Preventive treatment huh? I will look into that.

In regards to what type of camera I use I have a Cannon Power shot A75 that I use most of the time in foliage/macro mode. I broke a cardinal rule of growers and told my friend who has a professional camera to come over and I used his for those last close ups. (not flatop that was the cannon) Funny thing, when he took pics they didn't come out as well as mine. I guess I am just used to taking pics of plants. His is a Nikon with removable lens not sure of the model number.

As far as what happens now, I found out last summer it was just too hot to grow in a cabinet (besides I have more then enough smoke) so I am taking a break for the summer. Hopefully I will still have pictures to share once a week of the outdoor grow. I have mentioned this to my buddy and he has agreed to get me pics. In September I will have revamped the cabinet and will start a Train wreck grow with five fem seeds I have.
I am cutting a hole in the floor and the bottom of the cabinet, its going to supply air from under the house. Then all I have in the window is an exhaust. I plan on making a window box, adding a Panasonic whisper fan they use in bathrooms and keeping the blinds up, just angled down so it looks cool from outside. Then for the hydro setup I am going to build a custom NFT system where all i need to do upon transplant is replace eight 3 inch netpots. I will start them in the fill and drain in the net pots with 1 inch rock wool and hydroton and then just move them up. For lighting I am going to upgrade to a digital ballast and maybe try one of those new ceremac metal halied bulbs. Placement will remain the same however I would like to add some uv rays. we will see.

Until then, we have the finish of this grow where I intend to harvest the tops and let the lower buds develop some more to see if I can improve yield and I should be able to share the outdoor grow pics.
So, don’t give up on me. I will always be around. I intend to post links here to any other threads I start.

Thanks again for sticking around and adding your comments and suggestions

Happy 420 to you too!​
 

cruzer101

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Here is the first shot of the babes in the sun. They were moved after this shot to there new homes.
We have 5 super silver haze, 3 White Widow and 1 Apollo.






My Bud named them "The Dream Team" hes a sports freak. lol


I am working on new plans for the cabinet. I have just found LED lighting may be within my grasp.
What once would have cost me $600 is now $288 on eBay. 120 watts of led Power and fans
combined in one light that's is spread out enough for my grow.​
 

lilmafia513

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Here is the first shot of the babes in the sun. They were moved after this shot to there new homes.
We have 5 super silver haze, 3 White Widow and 1 Apollo.






My Bud named them "The Dream Team" hes a sports freak. lol


I am working on new plans for the cabinet. I have just found LED lighting may be within my grasp.
What once would have cost me $600 is now $288 on eBay. 120 watts of led Power and fans
combined in one light that's is spread out enough for my grow.​
Hey cruzer,
Dont know what you are looking at specifically on ebay, but i was told by the guy at the hydro store to stay away from buying LEDs off ebay, a guy bought one once and came into the store with it. The owner said it looked like a piece of cardboard with xmas lights poked through it. not at all what it was described as.
But im sure you have done your research on it, just be careful man!:hump:
But other than that, the dream team looks great, i gotta get that far one of these days. Got the spot, the sprouts, and the rest, just not enough time lately to do anything.
 

ganjaboii024

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looking great

when i was looking into LED technology i saw the procyon 100, its a 100 watts of led power in one lamp and they compared its results to a 400 hps growing lettuce, google it
 

Packet.

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looking great

when i was looking into LED technology i saw the procyon 100, its a 100 watts of led power in one lamp and they compared its results to a 400 hps growing lettuce, google it
they have a demo of this at a local hydro shop, does better then the ufo led but with that price tag i'll wait until it drops even more.
 

cruzer101

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Hey Fire,

Yea you are right I have looked at a few LED grow lights and followed a few journals. Thing is, I still don't think this will flower better than what I got. I think I understand what I am getting into. Who knows, Well lets find out.


I would say I seen the polygon produce about 65% of what this 400w HPS will. That is with 100 watts LED. The right mix. they use high power leds.

This light is 120w and made here is silicon valley. I like the design and always wanted a more efficent system. Heres a shot




Here's the info on it.

UFX-120W

Product Description:
Read About "LED GROW LIGHT" at Wiki "Recent advancements in LEDs have allowed for the production of relatively cheap, bright and long lasting grow lights that emit only the colors of light required for plant growth. These lights are attractive to indoor-growers since they do not consume as much power, do not require ballasts, and produce a fraction of the heat of HID lamps. The lamps consist of arrays of many wide-spectrum red and a few narrow-spectrum blue LEDs of specific wavelengths. Although LED grow lights have shown promise through plant research by NASA and many universities, it is unknown whether the results are applicable to ______, as their luminous efficiency is much lower."
High Powered 120 Watt Grow Light
Why LED Grow Light?

  • Reduces 80% to 90% in energy consumption compared to fluorescents tubes, HPS and MH
  • Built in fans (3 high power fans)
  • 90% to 95% of lights are absorbed unlike HPS
  • Heat is reduced over 70% compared to HPS
  • Lifespan is about 50,000 hours
  • Minimal maintenance
  • Wide angle rays
  • Minimal installation required
Input Voltage - 110 +/_ 10% 50-60 hz
Power Output - 120 Watt (More powerful than a 500 Watt HPS)
LED Configuration - 112 x 1.07 Watt LED, 100 Red + 12 Blue
BridgeLux Blue LED (USA Made)
Lux (center) - 118 Lux/2.5m 55 lux/3.5m
Lumen - Approx. 3600 Lm
Lighting Coverage - 12 SQ. FT +/_
Lifespan - 50,000 Hrs
LED made by BridgeLux (USA)
WaveLength - Red=630nm, Blue=452nm

ROHS and CE Certified - International Compliance for Safety Standards
UFO vs UFX-120W
This is a comparison between the UFO and the NEW 120W. As you can see the new ratio of Red and Blue LED. Base on our customer feedback these lights are much more efficient and the outcome is better stronger yielding plants.

We dear to compare our lights with any LED Grow Lights on the Market.



Not exactly Christmas tree lights in cardboard are they?
Just Kidding, I know there is a lot of crap on eBay thanks for the warning.

So I look at it and figure if I have half as much grow area then it covers and I keep them in the screen so I keep it close, I just may be able to get a couple oz's outta this, do it with 25% of the electricity. So its a go.

Im watching the auction, he has several of them and the price went down $10 this week. I ordered the new exhaust fan today 80cfm whisper fan. suppose to be silent. 1.5 zones.

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lilmafia513

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Cruz,
Hey man, they look a lot better than what i heard about. I looked into the LEDS when i first got on this site, but heard that there was not enough evidence to suport that it was any better or as good as a HPS. Now.....i would be willing, and would love to try my hand at some LEDS in the veg cabinet.

Don't worry, i'll be watching, and you may make a believer out of me. I really want the LEDS to be good for growing, due to the low cost to operate them. I'd never get a UFO though...LOL.... they just look funny to me, like those cheap push button hall lights, that run off two AA batteries. LOL!!
Fan sounds good, got a link to it? I need to upgrade one of these days from the 6 inch inline i have.

Well, hope it works out, and keep me informed please!! Have a good one, it's about 80 here today, so i gotta go walk through the woods........
lilmafia
 

cruzer101

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Starting week 8 of flower.

You know, I have been running about 800ppms and they still have burnt tips.
I think it got up to like 1300 for a day or so a couple weeks ago and it never recovered.
The buds are filling out well enough, so I am going to drop the nutrients some this week.

Going with 600ppm and a pH of 6.0pH
Here is a shot from an angle



The front of the canopy,



And here is a better shot of the back. see the three on the left? They have fully matured already.



A couple buds fanned out and grew 4 or 5 small buds out of them.
These were the from the clones I took from greenhouse WW seed.
 

cutman

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Hey bud.nice ww i want some lol. My ladys start there 6 week today. How many do you have there and whats the size is you flower area?
 
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