hey ive been using LED lights for a while and im very very impressed off of them. they work great and ive been able to grow my 3rd gen of purple star budding within 3 months. they work much much better then incendecent bulbs and they wont burn your plants. check them out ledlights4less.com
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intoblackwaterpark
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nice....... great to hear just bought the ufo and i am super nervous since theyre kinda new sounds like a good investment...
can i ask whats your blue to red ratio..?
can i ask whats your blue to red ratio..?
raeman1990
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yeah ,,, pretty much any thing is better than incandescents 
There is this neat LED hobby site where the host tests various lights. The plants are all legal, but the work is valid and interesting for any flowering plants Experiments with Hydroponics, Aeroponics, and LED Grow Lighting
growman3666
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haha noobs
techhead420
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Gee...wy to spam. It wouldn't be so bad if your products actually worked as advertised.
BS, 've got 120 watts of LEDs, both low power arrays and custom built high power units, and after multiple grow cycles while doing side by side comparisons between LEDs vs CFL or HPS I've found that LEDs are the biggest joke in growing. Watt for watt high power LEDs are comparable to CFL but worse than HPS. 5mm LEDs perform worse than CFL.
If people want to throw their money away with a over priced, under performing lighting system system then by all means, go with LEDs.
"they work much much better then incendecent bulbs and they wont burn your plants"
What sort of noob would compare any lighting system to incandescent? Incandescents are not used as growing lights beyond noobs who don't know any better.
People, take it from someone who has lots of experience with LEDs, they are a scam.
And that link to the hobby site, keep in mind that the owner of that site receives free merchandise from LED manuactuers and is more than happy to let manufactuers hype of their products without backing up their claims.
BS, 've got 120 watts of LEDs, both low power arrays and custom built high power units, and after multiple grow cycles while doing side by side comparisons between LEDs vs CFL or HPS I've found that LEDs are the biggest joke in growing. Watt for watt high power LEDs are comparable to CFL but worse than HPS. 5mm LEDs perform worse than CFL.
If people want to throw their money away with a over priced, under performing lighting system system then by all means, go with LEDs.
"they work much much better then incendecent bulbs and they wont burn your plants"
What sort of noob would compare any lighting system to incandescent? Incandescents are not used as growing lights beyond noobs who don't know any better.
People, take it from someone who has lots of experience with LEDs, they are a scam.
And that link to the hobby site, keep in mind that the owner of that site receives free merchandise from LED manuactuers and is more than happy to let manufactuers hype of their products without backing up their claims.
JimmyPot
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I want to see this.I have not been impressed at all so far.The cost of lights and yields both suck.
Best of luck on your test.
I was at the San Fran Indoor Gardening Expo where they had the Theoreme Innovation Smartlamps on display which are definitely more powerful than the Procyons at 600 watt HPS or 1000 watts for the Smartbar.
What I am worried about isthat the Procyon only has red and blue leds unlike the smarts which have ultra violet and infra red plus others for the flowering side.
It will be interesting to see the flowering and end results you get.
Will you be posting photos ?
I was at the San Fran Indoor Gardening Expo where they had the Theoreme Innovation Smartlamps on display which are definitely more powerful than the Procyons at 600 watt HPS or 1000 watts for the Smartbar.
What I am worried about isthat the Procyon only has red and blue leds unlike the smarts which have ultra violet and infra red plus others for the flowering side.
It will be interesting to see the flowering and end results you get.
Will you be posting photos ?
A couple of quick points on your comparison :
1. Don't forget total power consumption of HPS and HID which would be higher than you calculate due to power transformation loss etc. So the led savings are higher, say 60 to 89 watts more for a 600 watt hps ;
2. I would be wary about manufacturer claims of HPS or HID equivalency. The procyon says it is the same as a 400 hps, but I am seeing some posts in blogs that are talking about more like 250 watts while I have seen some confirmint the smartlamp at 600.
Probably the best way to compare is to compare the number of leds in each and the total unit cost per led to see which is a better deal.
The Procyon has 56 and the Smartlamp 150. So that's a ratio of 1 to 2.68 :
So, Procyon $600 x 2.68 = $1608 yet the Smartlamp can be had online for $1395. So led per led the Smartlamp is around a 13% better deal led per led. And it has extra spectrums for flowering.
1. Don't forget total power consumption of HPS and HID which would be higher than you calculate due to power transformation loss etc. So the led savings are higher, say 60 to 89 watts more for a 600 watt hps ;
2. I would be wary about manufacturer claims of HPS or HID equivalency. The procyon says it is the same as a 400 hps, but I am seeing some posts in blogs that are talking about more like 250 watts while I have seen some confirmint the smartlamp at 600.
Probably the best way to compare is to compare the number of leds in each and the total unit cost per led to see which is a better deal.
The Procyon has 56 and the Smartlamp 150. So that's a ratio of 1 to 2.68 :
So, Procyon $600 x 2.68 = $1608 yet the Smartlamp can be had online for $1395. So led per led the Smartlamp is around a 13% better deal led per led. And it has extra spectrums for flowering.
techhead420
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That Procyon will not replace a 400w HID. Ryan, of homegrownlights.com, is completely full of BS making that claim (he has NEVER backed that claim up).
The Procyon puts out roughly 100 umol/sec of light. That's good for about 2 square feet of robust budding area.