Elder Price
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Could you please show us? Show, not tell. Show. Where was it proven, just a link dude.
Led Growing Is The Way Of The Future My Friends
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RawBudzski
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for a second I thought this was the "prove god does not exist" thread.
Elder Price
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Name calling? Really? You said I didn't read, you missed the title of the thread, and misquoted it as well. I called you on it, and you call me a douche? You get proven wrong, and now it's name calling?
You want a debate, be an adult about it, this is an adult forum.
You want a debate, be an adult about it, this is an adult forum.
Elder Price
Member
Where? I'm not going to hunt down your posts. You want me to believe, bring me the link. Link(s), with pics, side by sides, not people just saying they don't work, that brings us back to the god thing, just because people say he's real, doesn't mean it is. Pics man, lets see some pics from some LED grows from good quality LED panels. I already know what HPS can do. I already know what LEDs can do when inexperienced growers use them, same with HPS. I want you to show me an all LED grow with good LEDs, and a good grower. Show me the pics.
In the meantime, I will share with you what convinced me to buy LEDs, this grower and this post here: https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/187131-spectra-unit-90watt-led-grow-3.html#post2585326
And any grows from Irishboy.
I like arguing too, sometimes, so don't expect me to argue all the time with you.
In the meantime, I will share with you what convinced me to buy LEDs, this grower and this post here: https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/187131-spectra-unit-90watt-led-grow-3.html#post2585326
And any grows from Irishboy.
I like arguing too, sometimes, so don't expect me to argue all the time with you.
If you put the link up, and show me, and also explain to me why HPS is better, I will say, Okay, you're right. But until then....
You lost your adult card when you start posting drunken name calling comments.
Very well.... But you contradicted yourself after that. There's debating, and there's being childish and name calling, and that makes it hard for me to take you seriously. I want a debate, not a name calling game. Calling me a douche is not debating.
I am not here for rep, sorry. I am here, well was here to read, help, learn, teach, as the grow forum is intended for, and an occasional debate. Rep means nothing to me. Even material possessions I own mean nothing to me. I have a nice car, I have a great job, but what is more important to me, I'm healthy, I have good friends and a great family. I am alive. Rep points do not improve on my life.
I'll join you over there, those can be fun.
Elder Price
Member
Do you have a life outside the internet?
I'm with Beasto, ignore list. I can't debate with a child.
Best of luck with your whatever it is you do.
You just clowned yourself dude.
I'm with Beasto, ignore list. I can't debate with a child.
Best of luck with your whatever it is you do.
curly604
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wow he talked to himself for three pages...... not a surprise , i dont know where to start really, i guess ill start by adressing you as chump change,so chump change i never said anything about a 80w beating a 1000w thats ridiculous i said i would produce better quality. but thats becuause i got a better strain than you bro haha no worries honest chump change mistake . hps vs. led is fucking retarded like beasto said your just as bad as the pigs or the government trying to keep us from what we love and thats what your doing there chump change it should be about helping each other in anyway we can. i couldnt think of any reason not to use them for myself, not for you or anyone else i dont give a shit about you or your troll ranting . and like i said this is my first LED run not my first run ever i do this for a living chump change doing and dealing with things you wouldnt dream of , im gonna use em because im tired of power bills heat problems and fire hazards. so chump change why dont you tell us why you've spent so much time on our thread here, or better yet why dont ya make like a tree and FUCK OFF.
Elder Price
Member
I had fun with him until he started with the name calling, and that last dumbass comment he made before he went on my ignore list.
I have no problem agreeing to disagree. I have no problem admitting if I'm wrong. But just telling me I'm wrong doesn't prove it. I do believe we have a drunken liar on our hands, He has no hydro store. Nor works at one. He has no dispensary either. Nor probably doesn't have a card. I bet he doesn't even have a high school diploma.
Hello McFly.... Make like a tree and get out of here..... Fucking BttF.... I might have to watch that tomorrow.
I'd just put him on your ignore list. He will not go away until he gets banned. The name calling should land him at least an infraction. He takes these reps so seriously, I'm sure he'll love an infraction or banning. If he ever shows up on my site, I'll ban him so fucking hard, he gets ban burn.
I have no problem agreeing to disagree. I have no problem admitting if I'm wrong. But just telling me I'm wrong doesn't prove it. I do believe we have a drunken liar on our hands, He has no hydro store. Nor works at one. He has no dispensary either. Nor probably doesn't have a card. I bet he doesn't even have a high school diploma.
Hello McFly.... Make like a tree and get out of here..... Fucking BttF.... I might have to watch that tomorrow.
I'd just put him on your ignore list. He will not go away until he gets banned. The name calling should land him at least an infraction. He takes these reps so seriously, I'm sure he'll love an infraction or banning. If he ever shows up on my site, I'll ban him so fucking hard, he gets ban burn.
Elder Price
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hoss12781
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way to single handedly derail any sense of a civil conversation jackass. Where's a mod when you need one.
FootClan
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Swiftowl11
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Wow, what happend. Well LEDs are the future. I got a bunch of grows under my belt. Started with MH, to HPS, to cheap LED. I have to say, I love vegging with my cheap leds. Led veg is beyond perfect. Im able to take many more clones from my 90w led veg plant then my MH 400w veg plant. I would be flowering with my LED, but my 2 600w hps gives me WAY more bud. If we are talking about 1 plant vs 1 plant. 400w would grow the plant bushy and wide, each branch fighting for light growing under each other, clones kind of stretched out. 90w LED Tightest Nodes imaginable, inner plant growth is as good as outer plant growth, clones spaced just right, not branch fight for light.
LED IS ALL ABOUT PENETRATION. HPS IS COVERAGE AREA!
Next home I will be investing in high power LED for flowering. LED are alot better WATT 4 WATT then HPS.
I Know My Future Is LED.
LED IS ALL ABOUT PENETRATION. HPS IS COVERAGE AREA!
Next home I will be investing in high power LED for flowering. LED are alot better WATT 4 WATT then HPS.
I Know My Future Is LED.
snew
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I posted:
"I purchase two Blackstar 240's to grow though the summer heat. I placed 3 Blue Cheese under 1 light and 3 Jilly Bean under the other light. They began Flower 28 days ago. 2 BC are progressing well. The other BC grew much bigger as if still under Veg light and has just begun to form buds. The JB show no signs of flowering. They are all in one group under the 2 lights. I checked today and there is no light leak. Any thoughts?"
Among other Bad Karma wrote:
"I'm seriously starting to believe it's one of the panels.
Let me run my scenario by you and see if it's the case or not.
So you have 6 plants lined up under the 2 lights.
Now you said none of the Jillybean's have flowered and that only 2 of the 3 Blue Cheese's under the other panel were flowering.
Let me take a guess and say that the single Blue Cheese that didn't flower was in between the 2 panels (so it was exposed to both lights) and not on one of the far ends, am I right?
If I am, I hate to say it, but it would seem their is something wrong with the panel over the Jillybean's.
At this point, everything else has been ruled out in my mind (based on the presented evidence).
Because if it was stress, the other 2 Blue Cheese's should have taken the hit too, but for some reason didn't and have flowered.
You've got one good panel and one bad panel, but you should still be under warranty though (1 year).
When you get in touch with Gotham Hydro about replacing the panel, make sure you let it be known that you are actively updating other growers about your Blackstar experience via this thread.
It should help keep them from giving you any shit about a replacement (not saying they will, but just in case they do).
Good luck."
So I called Gotham, talked with them about the problem. They insisted that the spectrum was not the problem but offer an exchange. I told them I would be keeping it for about 1 week to keep my Jilly Bean alive and until the Blue Cheese finished.
However, Tricks posted:
"Your lights might not be enough to cover 6 plants. Try flowering 2 under each light or add 1 more to cover the other 2."
At this time I cut clones put them under a t12 and place all but one of the JB under 4 T-5's. Leaving 1 JB and 3 BC. 2 BC will be coming out in a couple of days on schedule. So I moved the bigest BC that had not flower under the "bad" LED and it has really began to flower. The one JB under the LED still has not begun to flower but the ones under the T-5s have. All have been decreased to 11 hours of light to help push flower.
I still reserving judgement on the "bad" LED. But at this point if the BC continues to flower under it I would think the LED working as it should.
Gotham, however, was very cooperative.
"I purchase two Blackstar 240's to grow though the summer heat. I placed 3 Blue Cheese under 1 light and 3 Jilly Bean under the other light. They began Flower 28 days ago. 2 BC are progressing well. The other BC grew much bigger as if still under Veg light and has just begun to form buds. The JB show no signs of flowering. They are all in one group under the 2 lights. I checked today and there is no light leak. Any thoughts?"
Among other Bad Karma wrote:
"I'm seriously starting to believe it's one of the panels.
Let me run my scenario by you and see if it's the case or not.
So you have 6 plants lined up under the 2 lights.
Now you said none of the Jillybean's have flowered and that only 2 of the 3 Blue Cheese's under the other panel were flowering.
Let me take a guess and say that the single Blue Cheese that didn't flower was in between the 2 panels (so it was exposed to both lights) and not on one of the far ends, am I right?
If I am, I hate to say it, but it would seem their is something wrong with the panel over the Jillybean's.
At this point, everything else has been ruled out in my mind (based on the presented evidence).
Because if it was stress, the other 2 Blue Cheese's should have taken the hit too, but for some reason didn't and have flowered.
You've got one good panel and one bad panel, but you should still be under warranty though (1 year).
When you get in touch with Gotham Hydro about replacing the panel, make sure you let it be known that you are actively updating other growers about your Blackstar experience via this thread.
It should help keep them from giving you any shit about a replacement (not saying they will, but just in case they do).
Good luck."
So I called Gotham, talked with them about the problem. They insisted that the spectrum was not the problem but offer an exchange. I told them I would be keeping it for about 1 week to keep my Jilly Bean alive and until the Blue Cheese finished.
However, Tricks posted:
"Your lights might not be enough to cover 6 plants. Try flowering 2 under each light or add 1 more to cover the other 2."
At this time I cut clones put them under a t12 and place all but one of the JB under 4 T-5's. Leaving 1 JB and 3 BC. 2 BC will be coming out in a couple of days on schedule. So I moved the bigest BC that had not flower under the "bad" LED and it has really began to flower. The one JB under the LED still has not begun to flower but the ones under the T-5s have. All have been decreased to 11 hours of light to help push flower.
I still reserving judgement on the "bad" LED. But at this point if the BC continues to flower under it I would think the LED working as it should.
Gotham, however, was very cooperative.
Fish, I did see a utube vid of such an experiment. LED's are undoubtedly good. Please beware, as the hydro industry is unsurpassed in the number of 'unbiassed experimenters with increased yields, who also happen to be selling the product' lol.
Besides that though, I would really love to own and do an LED grow, because it is perfect for my situation.
Harrekin
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See man, I told ya it wasnt the panel. All that wrong spectrum causing it not to flower baloney that I got such flak for speaking against...enjoy your grow man, and if it requires that photoperiod means you might get a nice sativa dom
