Leaves Curling downwards on 2 out of my 3 plants help

aBoog21

aBoog21

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First time grower, in a 2x3 with a 600w LED. So the past 3 days the leaves have been looking like the pictures attached. I figured overwatering was the issue, so for the past 2 days I have been giving less water. They had been soaking it up prior to these past few days. I know to let soil dry out a good bit in between waterings and I had been doing a good job at monitoring that... so I thought. No discoloration as of now. I have however been watering twice a week with fox farms big bloom. I started that 2 weeks ago. Maybe that’s the issue but my blue dream seems to be in great shape it’s only the Blue Cheese and Blueberry haze that have been going downhill. Any help or recommendations appreciated. Also humidity has been pretty steady at 50% and temps at 79-82 degrees with 24 hour light cycle. Non auto. Watering with distilled water. Using fox farms ocean forest soil.
 

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G.I.JOSE

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If I'm not mistaken, big bloom is for flowering...not veg, bloom boosters are high in phosphorus and potassium, things your plant needs during flower or bloom stages. You need something high in nitrogen to help with root growth. Hope this info helps. Cheers-G.I.JOSE
 
aBoog21

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G.I.JOSE said:
If I'm not mistaken, big bloom is for flowering...not veg, bloom boosters are high in phosphorus and potassium, things your plant needs during flower or bloom stages. You need something high in nitrogen to help with root growth. Hope this info helps. Cheers-G.I.JOSE
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Thanks for the response. I used the big bloom because that’s what Fox Farm customer service recommended at the beginning of the seedling stage. I only watered it a few times with this so hopefully it’ll flush out and be fine. I’m probably ready to transplant here shortly and it’s ashame they aren’t too healthy. So idk if I should hold off on changing pots or if I still should go ahead and transplant? Roots are at the bottom of the cup I can see them.
 
aBoog21

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Do you think I should add maybe low levels of Nitrogen? Or should I just water it as needed like I have been with plain water? It’s just weird how this happened out of nowhere.
 
Budzbuddha

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Big bloom is the ONLY organic of the 3 ... BUT there are some glaring issues to fix.

1. Stop using clear cups
2. Stop using “ blue “ channel only .... all switches on ALL THROUGH GROW.
3. FFOF is ph at 6.3 .... are you ph water ? FFOF works well at 6.5 - 6.7
4 . Droop is from overwater ( leaves become heavy )
5. Transplant them into new container ( final or at least a gallon for now )
6. FFOF is a bit rough on some strains initially but they will acclimate.

Use FFOF and water ph ( as shown above ) .... add calmag to water once a week. Reason being is that blurple and LED grows
make transpire LESS than conventional lights like HPS ( ir and heat ) supplement this by keeping temps around 80 . It helps keep medium warm and allows roots to function better than being cold. Control watering and base it ONLY on plants “ schedule “ NOT YOURS.

Take fox farm feed schedules with a grain of salt , they are often to much for most home setups and light choices.
FFOF will and can power your plants COMPLETELY without added Nutes. You can bubble up a tea / soil drench with it and top dress it from time to time as needed.
I use FFOF as part of a special layered mix I use and have run the trio Nutes before. Grow Big is highly concentrated and is not uncommon to use an 1/8 of recommendation. Tiger bloom is pretty hot too . Both will salt your medium up fast. That’s why they push “ sledgehammer “ .... if you moderat amounts it will work okay . But find running soil solo WITHOUT adding hotter Nutes on top is the most productive at end. Less is more with this nute line.
 
aBoog21

aBoog21

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Budzbuddha said:
Big bloom is the ONLY organic of the 3 ... BUT there are some glaring issues to fix.

1. Stop using clear cups
2. Stop using “ blue “ channel only .... all switches on ALL THROUGH GROW.
3. FFOF is ph at 6.3 .... are you ph water ? FFOF works well at 6.5 - 6.7
4 . Droop is from overwater ( leaves become heavy )
5. Transplant them into new container ( final or at least a gallon for now )
6. FFOF is a bit rough on some strains initially but they will acclimate.

Use FFOF and water ph ( as shown above ) .... add calmag to water once a week. Reason being is that blurple and LED grows
make transpire LESS than conventional lights like HPS ( ir and heat ) supplement this by keeping temps around 80 . It helps keep medium warm and allows roots to function better than being cold. Control watering and base it ONLY on plants “ schedule “ NOT YOURS.

Take fox farm feed schedules with a grain of salt , they are often to much for most home setups and light choices.
FFOF will and can power your plants COMPLETELY without added Nutes. You can bubble up a tea / soil drench with it and top dress it from time to time as needed.
I use FFOF as part of a special layered mix I use and have run the trio Nutes before. Grow Big is highly concentrated and is not uncommon to use an 1/8 of recommendation. Tiger bloom is pretty hot too . Both will salt your medium up fast. That’s why they push “ sledgehammer “ .... if you moderat amounts it will work okay . But find running soil solo WITHOUT adding hotter Nutes on top is the most productive at end. Less is more with this nute line.
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My water is a ph of 6.2. And I do have cal mag have yet to use it tho. How much do you recommend that I mix into a gallon of water? Also, it’s okay/recommended that I transplant them awhile that they’re like this into a new(final) container? Which would be a 5 gal pot for me. Just don’t wanna lose these plants they were doing so well!! Appreciate the response brother, very informative!
 
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ChrispyCritter

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Big Bloom isn't accurate!y named because it's not a bloom enhancer. It's organic like was mentioned and it's a weak mix of a lot of good things. I got some when I switched to organic soil based on Revs book. I don't use it now since I have and use everything in it anyway. It's great for small plants though. @Budzbuddha dropped all you need to know in your lap. FFOF isn't bad really it's just hard to dial in. I tried to amend it and there was just too much going on in my mix. I fought with it when I started organics now I use Coots Mix. Simple.
Fox Farm is the Man. I always fight the Man. Therefore Fox Farm is the enemy. Nuff said.
 
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