Leaves are drying up and becoming really brittle.

Ckrogue

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I recently transplanted my outdoor plant to inside and have been running it under 5 6500k 23 watt CFLs and 2 2700 26 watt CFLs. The first few days the plant went in to some obvious shock, losing its bottom fan leaves (turning brown and falling off) but the newer growth seemed to be flourishing.

Now all of the newer growth seems to be really dry and it seems like its wilting from not having enough water, but I have been checking the soil regularly and it is still moist.

Does anyone have any ideas what may be causing this and a way I can try to fix it? I know my plant is a female and would really like to be able to save it if possible.
 

Ckrogue

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No one has any ideas what could be causing this? The lights are about 3-4 inches from the tops of the plants. Temps in the grow area are around 78-82 F and I have a older box fan for air circulation.

The plant was in back yard soil and I put it in some foxfarm ocean forest when I transplanted it. If there is any more info that any of you may need to help draw a conclusion please let me know. The plant seems to be drying up more and more and I'm pretty worried it's gonna die which would suck because it's my only plant and it's already about 7 weeks in to veg so I was gonna start flowering this Friday if I could.
 

cacamal

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hard to tell without any pics but it def sounds like some water def. did you give it a good soak when you transplanted? was it in the dirt when you tranplant
 

Ckrogue

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Pics comin in a few. When I transplanted it I soaked the soil all the way through and I left the backyard soil on the root cluster.
 

Ckrogue

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Actually my room tems have dropped to the low 70's, and I can actually hold all of the bulbs and not feel much warmth, so I am guessing that the 2-3 inches between them and the plants should be more than enough room to not burn the plants. I think I may have cut through some of the roots with the shovel when I dug it up but I tried to dig about 5 inches from the stem on each side to avoid that but I guess I didn't.

Currently I have no idea about my soil PH but it is some brand new foxfarm ocean forest with no nutes added or anything. It has been in that soil for about 3 days now I think. Would you recommend waiting to see if it starts to recover before sending it in to flower mode?

Also, the new growth seems to be drying up as well, and has gotten worse since I woke up this morning. Maybe I just don't have a green thumb :(
 

WattSaver

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Okay you have severely stressed the plant. You've taken it from hundred's of thousands of lumens to a couple of thousand. And when you dug it up out of the ground you most likely severed 90% of the roots it had going. I'm not saying you lost 90% of your root mass, just that you most likely trimmed every root the little girl had. Either one of these stresses would be tough on the plant, but both is much worse. Now the good news it will most likely recover.

I've killed and nearly killed plants young like yours but went the other way from life under 100w floro to one day in direct sunlight.
The plants leaves have grown to adapt to their environment. An outdoor plant will have a different # of sun and shade leaves and they will have a different cell wall thickness than a plant grown under lessor light. When you drastically change the light source the plant will have to adapt to be able to continue photosynthesis.

Treatment;; set lights to 18/6 coming on at current sunrise time. And keep them at least 8" above.
ventilation should cause air to move but not directly on the plant. And the temp if you can keep it near 70 is great but up to 80 will be okay. You want to limit the amount of transpiration the plant wants to do.
Water - mix a gal with 1/4 tsb of superthrive and a quarter dose of a very basic grow fert, take a cup (say 6 to 8 oz) and pour on the original root ball, then wait until the soil dries (the top inch or so can be flicked around with your finger) before you really water the plant again.

You want to promote new root growth, which will lead to new and re-newed growth, but it will take a while. Don't plan on flipping for at least 2 to 3 wks.

Just a side comment; for 7 wks veg in the sun it's pretty small, so it may be a weak plant in the 1st place.
Best of luck.
 

Ckrogue

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Thanks a lot for the input watt. Other info I forgot to provide was I started it under a really low watt CFL like 13 (only for the first few days) and was then transplanted outdoors behind my shed where it got direct sunlight about 40% of the time and the rest was slightly shaded light.

The seed was from some okay reggies/mids and it is just a test grow to see if/what I can produce with my CFL set up. Right now I have no nutes or timer nor the money to buy either, should she be okay until this Friday when I get paid? I have been keeping it under 24 hr light which I know probably screwed things up even more and to make it worse I brought it inside when it was dark out for at least 5 hours.

But other than that I have moved the lights up to about 8 inches. Would it be worth the investment to just get some fox farm nutes and the super thrive? I found a hydro store like 2 minutes from my house that I never knew about until like a week ago and the owner seemed really nice and knowledgeable but I don't think I will be asking him any questions, don't wanna make myself suspect.
 

OZ MAN

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sorry to hear about your plants man! what i have learnd so far is keep it simple! leave it be and just see what happens. watch for new growth and keep it watered. it sould work its self out and if it doesnt you learnd something. the clfs should be no more then 4" off your plants you are going to have to ajust them dayly. just keep reading!
 
they really need some cool dark 18/6 or 16/8 rest time imho. next time germ seeds plant and keep moist then in a few weeks trans plant (1) time into final medium. less stress!
 

WattSaver

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Your plant will rest anyways even under 24/0 light but if you could manually swithch the light it would help the plant's stress. If you can't afford nutes or superthrive then don't sweat it there is enough food in FFOF soil for awhile, the superthrive will help with the roots but won't be the make or break item. Just let it dry between waterings don't keep it saturated. this will promote new root growth. Just reduce the stress as much as you can and give it time.
 

bullwinkle60

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I don't have any cures just an opinion and that is for 7 weeks it's a really small plant which leads me to believe something was wrong before you moved it.
 

bud nugbong

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im gona go with too much nutriets in the foxfarm soil. looks like your gettin nute burn. outdoor soil has nada compared to that.
 

Desr

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its like those folgers containers were meant for small plants.i started one of my old ones in the same thing.
 

Ckrogue

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Well it seems stuffs gotten worse, EVERY fan leaf has dried up and is at least 50% brown, butttttttttttttttt the tiny shoots it has seem to be okay and the top seems to have a little bit of new growth. But today I went out and bought some hydroton and a light timer at the hydro store. But while I was there, the owner suggested some new nutes made by Roots Organics, they are called Buddha Grow and Buddha Bloom, and said he uses them himself over foxfarm (he didn't say for what plants though), and they are slightly cheaper, have any of you heard/tried them out? If not I will just get foxfarms but I don't know exactly which to get, there were 2 different types of Grow Bigs, but I know to get the Tiger Bloom and Big Bloom.
 
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