Leaf damage? Dtw coco

medidedicated

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I guess I got lucky this round as mostly they grew the same the two were only a week older. I figured its fine if I leave enough space in pot for it to puddle.

I switched to 8x a day feed and the two have been fed, no runoff so I fed again with valve restricting flow so it barely doesnt pour out the top. I think its indicator its drying back enough anyway for 8x.

Will see in couple hours if it works. Luckily I got the orbit for the other 3 clones that can each be dialed in but they arent having this issue at all and not even less packed. Just one hand full too much coco.
 

medidedicated

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Its working, just need to let it run longer and restrict the other lines via the orbit to save solution. I got 5 weeks left and I sure aint letting that happen again, spent all day messin with it.
 

medidedicated

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Yay its working just needed restrict some flow for this round. Restricted the adjustable orbit. They all run ok just needed add 10 more sec.

Going to plow through ferts with 5 extra clones and feeding 8x a day 1.8ec but they wanted every bit of it.
 

medidedicated

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Damn just got the news maxibloom might be quitting production. Sucks I just made myself at home with the stuff.

I heard jacks is a good brand to support. Its a two part right? Does it need epsom salts with it idk just throwing out random questions first come to mind.

I just mix up an identical EC? edit nevermind I think I misread. It may be just canada and EU but will see.

The thread title is something maxibloom discontinued if youre interested. I commented to make sure and keep eye on it.
 
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ec121

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Damn just got the news maxibloom might be quitting production. Sucks I just made myself at home with the stuff.

I heard jacks is a good brand to support. Its a two part right? Does it need epsom salts with it idk just throwing out random questions first come to mind.

I just mix up an identical EC? edit nevermind I think I misread. It may be just canada and EU but will see.

The thread title is something maxibloom discontinued if youre interested. I commented to make sure and keep eye on it.
Someone said they contacted them and they replied that they are still making it.

As for Jack's, which some prefer due to not wanting to use Hawthorne products, Jack's 321 would be:

Jack's Part A (5-12-26)
Calcium Nitrate (15-0-0)
Magnesium Sulfate

The only thing you need to get from Jack's is the Part A, then it's (by weight) 3:2:1:

3 parts Jack's
2 parts calcium nitrate
1 part magnesium sulfate
 

medidedicated

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Is this tacoe leaves? Its about 35k lux but for some seconds it said 40k which 35k is 900ppfd so a bit pushin it on a few tops but also could be from sugar and sauce. Its like superglue when touching.

a little over 900 ppfd shouldnt be pushing it much though but want to keep plant as happy as possible this round.
 

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medidedicated

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Clone question, I tried asking but no answer but I think I have my answer given the drip system issues from rootbound pots.

18 weeks veg in a 1 gallon pot its going to be so bound up itll feed suuuper slow. There will be lots of bonsai like growth around canopy from all the pruning to keep it in check.

I guess Im taking new clones in a couple weeks even though I have a tray full of clones that rooted a couple weeks ago and have 8” long beards.

To wait another 5 weeks it wont make it. At least Im sure itll root unlike recently with poorer results its no wonder I planted the excess clones instead of toss.

These clones were 6 and 7 weeks old the latter being my rootbound clones so 9 weeks is already going to be plenty, those ought to already feed even slower than these.

The next clones will have empty top space in mind in pot so they can go a while before having issues that minimal adjustment will easily fix like I did now.

I had the worst time trying to plan all this out perpetual wise but now that I physically have them growing hands on. Now that I have a solid clone method. It couldnt be simpler so this question I was able to answer myself.
 
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medidedicated

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Yep DropThatSound was right I needed a separate pump. Been practically hand watering last few days monkeying around to find I just need to listen. Happens often.

I scooped out a layer of coco some roots with it tiny ones but had I not do that I dont think would make to harvest. Its on 2 mins and shuts off with top just barely not overflowing.

It runs off a good amount maybe a tad too much but just setting it up to run handsoff til harvest. Screw me for those two extra handfuls coco too many.
 

medidedicated

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The others were 1min 20 sec so hense the headache trying balance all 5 clones one pump. I saw it didnt runoff this morning and too much time made it spill. So needed to cut the drip to literally drips almost.

Let it run long as needed. Only thing I can do next is make it actually drip so it drains faster than inflow. I can now though that I separated the lines. Just hoping to run another 5 weeks, 4.5 now.

But thats if I calculated harvest correctly. Flipped early didnt switch right away and let it ripe a week longer than needed. I already calculated what it would be if I had to go another week but think Im on time or chopping 1-7 days early.

Thats usually still a chop window and this is for rosin. I think it yields more chopped around then but worst to worst il just do another week.
 

medidedicated

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Oh noo my veg tent for some reason wasnt running its drip so it was bone dry plants just now drooping at lower leaves. Stupid cluster of stuff that needs be on a shelf I have to build.

Peobably like 24-48hrs dead roots up top. Its happened before hopefully im good. Cluster of timers and cords too easy to bump or unplug idk what it was.

Just jumped into action but tested it with it almost completely unplugged it wasnt like that when I picked it up. It wasnt on a different setting.

Shoot idk but this is why I ought to look at every tent every day which I do but veg tent just easy to forget about.
 

ec121

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plants just now drooping at lower leaves.
Just the lower leaves? Shit... I've had a mature plant with not a single leaf that wasn't drooped and it snapped back in 45 minutes after a good watering.

You're going to want to use your typical feed EC and hand water with a lot of runoff. Test initial runoff EC and keep testing until runoff EC is around 0.3 (or less) higher than feed EC.
 

medidedicated

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Theyre good now but yea I noticed it was hydrophobic and needed to be ran 4x before I thought it was ok. I think its almost time to feed 3-4x a day vs 2 from the start.

Like yall seen I had calcium signs show up hopefully this doesnt make next run worse if I messed up the cation sites. I started using fresh made coco no flushing just feed it and wash away residuel calmag that way.
 

medidedicated

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I didnt realize this clone was so wonky. It was burried in foliage low light and perhaps not the most vigorous cutting. Why is this barely growing? Bottom has plenty of roots but no above growth.

For sure stretching from low light. Its not re vegging is it? Its about 6 weeks old. The rest are monsters.

Trying figure out what happened here, trying to throw these out due to being too old and root bound. Bound to be a pain to feed to harvest. And trim back heavily like a bonsai.

I dont want my limited cuttings to perform like this at no notice to replace and be stuck with to flower. Was paranoid trying have clones early but realized was trippin and found a reliable clone method.

Trying to sync things up to save solution and have room to train the plants I want to flower next amd only have space for FRESH rooted cuttings to avoid hand watering for a week, thats all.

Tossing 5 clones Im sad. Tossing like 8 more that I cut too early. Starting my official next cuttings in 2-3 weeks.
 

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medidedicated

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I want to restart and especially grossly underfill each pot so the dtw is smooth running. Ive been struggling with two plants overspilling just barely figured out . Hopefully make it to harvest in 4-5 weeks.
 

medidedicated

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Some more comparison. Look at main stems and overall growth. These may have too much coco and root bound as I flipped last clones as soon as ready and struggling to water a couple them.

These arent as bad but I worry being 18 weeks old having any related issues. Typing that out reinforced my decision to toss these. Just dont seem optimal as well as the risk of not even being able to water them.

The drip system can only go so slow to match the puddle thats flowing down the rootbound pot. 1 gal.
 

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medidedicated

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I tossed them. Yea the wonky one barely had a root system while the rest were thriving. I guess got to be on the look for wonky clones. Ive had the mothers take 2 months to start growing right.

Idk why. Its why I overthought the whole process I just now realized they root and grow like a bean.
 

medidedicated

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Leaf damage. The serated tips on sides of leaf burning up. Fed 8x a day 1.8EC in early part of the late flower phase orange hairs everywhere buds half made working on the rest of it. Then it works its way down canopy and finishes.

About 4-5 weeks til chop. Is it the light? I dialed it in to 600-900ppfd all over canopy mars hydro ts1000. Ph mostly 6.0 but drifts to 6.5 before going back to 6.0. I use test drops still learning them and dont want risk feeding lower than 5.8 or even 5.5.

Colors can be hard to call I have yet to follow suggestions but have been getting better winging it just keeping it 6.0-6.5. Practicing getting to 5.8.

Anyway could be ready to lower the EC? What yall think.
 

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