Leaf damage? Dtw coco

You think they could have laid eggs in your res container solution.. then one single egg got sucked in and pumped right into the pot through the feed lines? Maybe you're right about them getting in that way, lol.

This plant already had a gnat issue from before you socked it up though, right? Well..

I think the real trick to being 99.99% gnat free is to start completely over from scratch, and use fresh pasteurized (expanded with boiling water) coir with the panty hosed up pots, to keep the flyers from ever getting in the medium to begin with..

Using a flood and drain table instead of DTW would probably make watering through the fabric easier. 2 layers to be extra safe. It's apparent now that the fabric bug netting panty idea doesn't work 100% to fix an already existing infestation. Even used in conjunction with any of the latest top recommended products designed to kill them while they are stuck inside the pot.. Is that about right?

It's reasons like gnats that I gave up growing indoors in soil or soil-less mediums, and invested more into DWC grows instead. Outside I don't mind using coco, but I can't stand fungus gnats at all in my space. It really is a lot of extra work to maintain all the bug proofing and extra IPM needed to keep them from invading.

Growing mushies is the same way, when your bulk growing using coco as the substrate. Gotta use filters on the fresh air exchange vents to keep the gnats from crawling into the monotubs. Blah!

I think its from veg socking too late for sure. The veg I have now they have no signs if bugs so theres hope. When theres literally thousands in the pot though Im sure thats why some babies got out being small enough then aged bigger and see a mix of both flying around in tents. Also stuck in jell trap.

Theres none in my hand prepared coco Im pretty sure but will start soaking in athena ipm to be sure. I use dry brick and rinse then double buffer in calmg.

Yea I tried using bti in rediculous doses and sprayed them with athena ipm. Though am guilty of not drenching it every 3 days like I should. I just knew this was coming anyway. Something to stay on top of if I do see just one gnat inside the pot otherwise why overwork.

Me filling 5gallon bucket for each tent daily is exausting but I just got paid so Im motivated. Ro water with my neglect can have the same issues of rotting water basically. Only to maybe not work or need a water chiller too. What if the chiller dont work.. Testing it out first might not mean it works if it seems to.

So its whatever I have hope I think I can use the fabric pot itself as the shield. I can show 3d pics of the pots I challenge anyone to find a hole. Im tellin yall they somehow get through, the stretched panty is not very fine. Very large holes. It has to stretch too from the stem to the outer pot.

The fact I dont see none in veg room is a good sign if I put my all to it I may figure it out. As with anything weed related.

So my understanding is from the root damage the vascular system isnt working right choked out. Thats why the colas die. Theyve observed pythium make it to the stem and fruits in a rare case. Though shouldnt consume plants with pythium. Pythium can infect humans. I think Id be over reacting to toss it.

Not if it had budrot or pm though. Those are a mess.

Taking apart that pot theres no way they got in and out through the tied area of stem. Its caulked shut with jell trap. So I think if I staple the fabric pot into a X shape it will work. Seal it with bug jell.

I think the panty measure from the start minimizes the chances so good I might be able to control the situation even further. They stopped bugging my roommates which was important. Its not easy finding somewhere to grow I appreciate my blessings.

Almost 14 days no roots on a porto leche cut. Going to have to flip a watermelon instead as I have more of those. Just winging it juggling few strains.

Im doing the heat mat clone dome rootriot method with water tray. One just said they think winter is why its not rooting fast. Last time was 6 days. Clean dome each use so idk. It even had copper spray in the water last time still only 6 days to root.

I guess winter root draughts are real. Holy crap I cant spell. Autocorrect annoying though. I think thats right actually.

Its nerve racking, the PL is ready to flip but its the only one so I cant unless I want more pressure on me. So I wont. I need a break from stress lol. Im used to it going fast but I had clones take over a month to root in make shift clone setup before the dome and junk.

So I know not to pull it out it could look long off from rooting then wabam its tenticles everywhere. Im not used to this other than the copper spray ordeal. Im not even worried about pm no sprays I just thought itd root by now.

Even if it needs 3 wks Im just risking it. I should try potassium spay though see if it stunts anything. I know the copper did as they only yellow when they root but with copper it was hell of a yellow and dying nodes with no roots. They pulled through though.

Wow so I was a believer that runoff ph wont tell you anything and its bro science. Well theres plenty to read about it. Another member is journaling it and had me curious. My ph in is 5.8 and out is like 6.3. Maybe 6.5 idk its test drops and they were more green than yellow but had yellow in it still.

Says to be .6 points within input. Going to start checking it. Why check runoff ec but totally ignore ph… See sometimes you got to question the info you get here. People been wrong before.

I bet you its bacteria and root rot just like all my plants lately until I bug proof them.

Not a good sign. Could be more done for 8 wks it will be in two days. Might as well just chop now. I basically am starting over but at least get some good hash out of it which is all I want anyway. Idk I can be hard to please but not at the same time. Ive been finding with a tolerance fix for sure easier to please. With a T nothings getting me high really.

Its getting choked out from root damage from bugs Im sure. It will only get worse and just start dying which Im not trying to keep if it does that Im tossing it. Right now its just struggling but leafs fading too quick I think its in worse shape than my 3/3 harvest. Fuck it snip time.

Going to only have one plant left soon to quarentene and finish 4 more wks since its not much to wait. Makes more sense to get some more hash out of it. Then flip 4 clones after I move it to the 3/3 to be alone and bagged up so bugs cant spread. Treat it with athena every 3 days. The rest might not even get bug issues its dead of winter.

No bugs in the upcoming clones. Those might make it the full 9-10wks. When I chop the last bugged plant Il be good. Panty hosing seems to help but when they are in however way, having thousands of them inevitably some make their way out. Maybe I can bag them too and just work on repeating that success.

I should chop the rest even that seeded project. Dont want to pass any disease to offspring if ut germinates. I think a goos few will. Will need as many as I can to weave out males or self polinated phenos. Idk what to do with the males hell I can barely grow the shit. I do ok in veg and so/so in flower. In a perfect world with no bugs.

Im excited though I just been throwing myself at it and some material is sticking. That f4-f7 or so is when you start seeing unique stuff. Hell Imma make a thread when it germinates and just take it one step at a time and decide what to do each step.

Will need to keep it alive and well and have somewhere for it to bonsai. Maybe that flower tent can be the breeding project tent.

Shit I already need to ask questions, would you keep the original moms too? One is staying regarless but the other mom I was going to replace with this new f1. I get lost so easy I barely figured out how to perpetuate clones and when something throws off the cycle its hecktic so just flipping and cutting cuts winging it.

So I get lost everytime they say cross like is it just an isolated plant youre working with? This can go so many different ways.. At the bare minimum I know I can just keep a f1 and play with those but its like whats the next step..

Thats where a new threaf is needed but any tips on how to preserve every corner of the project that will be needed to carry on, hollar at me. If I want to make a f2 who do I cross this f1 with? The mom or the dad? Its a male sac off a female plant that polinated so I guess thats the dad.

As you can tell Im already lost but its hella interesting I could use all the kind help I can get.

I know this can get ugly people dont want more pollen chuckers but Im just doin my own thing seeing where it takes me. Can these two female moms be used moving forward? Does it matter that the one mom was a hermie that started this?

People will keep moldy weed but theyll toss a plant that grows one sac.. I just am working up a weird unique situation where I followed advice that yielded good results. That they can outgrow that trait. My watermelon ultra wont seed its like the pistols are sterile too. Room full of pollen.

I just wonder will it be harder since I dont have a male for one of the parents later down the road.

About 2.5oz I think maybe more if lucky. I was guessing 3 but when you chop it it suddenly feels like more or less its weird. My 3/3 I thought was 4oz but its like 8 I think. Bugs in the buds but meh if you smoked spider mites like we all did I dont think its a big deal. I worry more for mold.

Need get my shit together. Might toss a 4 wk flowering plant just to get the bugs out of here. They look small enough to fit through panty hose. Probably root aphids which means I should take it seriously.

Huh. Stumped. It looks fine. Could be better but not rotten. Lots of aphids. So I got chop happy but the 3/3 was more developed but risked dead plants. This one not rotten but the fading idk what that was then.. Shit got to be patient.

I should veg longer, 2.5oz is pretty low but was goos for avoiding pm and testing things out. Will have to let them go full flower run but damn its tough. Not many people get these kinds of issues.

Stumps me. I cant get a break. This looks fine for 4 wks full almost. Better treatment as I pick up on new enviorment. White roots poking out the pot. The last plant didnt root much Ive seen that a few times. I didnt flip it with a vigorous rootball. Ya ya I know let the plants grow.

It literally dead look liked it was about to do what its been doing. I got two more Il give longer. At this point just having a good amount harvested Il push the rest further and for sure when I get the bugs gone. Them things just get in and tear shit up.

For what its worth thats not a bad lesson for 2.5oz. You learn somehow. I really dont know of any reason to toss, let me know why you would though. Leople dont always get to see what every inch of rootball looks like like outdoors no till or in general. I extract hash only at that.

Id wait to give any away until I figure that out but half a mind to give some away anyway. I heard of pythium fusarium but not quite this. Soil grows the roots can be rough as a new soil grower at the time idk this is just stupid. I dont see people ever trip about it if I saw anything like this.

I had root ball look similar to this but green leafs all the way to end of 10 weeks could of gone longer. Why are my roots shitty gosh damnit. Anyway Im gonna finish all these off and veg longer then flip all new plants no bugs and double down on my ipm game.

The two plants I got in another tent are almost 8 wks full and dont seem to be tanking in health. Even with lots of bugs. I guess that one was just deficient but freakin how and why so severe.. Runoff ec was fine.

I didnt get to test ph of runoff to rule out bacteria. Im sure that would be any concern but never heard of that from consuming plants like that. They always have bacteria. Could be a ph issue, Ive been realizing lately the rootball isnt as stable as you think with input solution.

Could be low or high ph from bateria or salt build up. Different ph in different zones. One member here showed they have all kinds of microbial life in their coco that should be sterile I think. So yea should check ph runoff could of indicated something.

Looking at the 3/3 rootball its not even that bad. For sure keeping it maybe even give some away. I give away free weed Im just crazy like that. Im no dealer Id be bad with business never see a profit. Price wars. I need to push them to 9 10 weeks again.

Almost 8 wks full. Its looking close to done. Probably 9 full wks. Work up to 10 again.

And for those wondering about watermelon ultra.. This last chop givin me hypnotizing spicy watermelon kush vibes like Ive seen once same pheno. You want to say watermelon but doubt yourself at the same time. Maybe there is a watermelon dominant pheno.

She doesnt smoke well maybe better in organics as they say and less N. It doesnt seem to cure and the trich heads just fall off half of them easily. So if you hand trim there should be lots of flavor and potency but a bit harsh. I use her for flower rosin and that she makes well.

Dry sift rosin is pretty good too but I found better benefits of flower rosin. Oof cant wait to press tomorrow and see, is the whole thing 20% and terpy watery dankness? So far the same conditions were applied.