`SoA || Asi
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nice bro
my indoor easyryder looks so different
my indoor easyryder looks so different
Late Season Easy Ryder (Auto AK47 x Low Ryder #2) Outdoor Grow
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sonar
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I'd be game man! haha.Damn that is one fat bud!! I'm jealous lol.. So we should be doing smoke reports around the same time depending on how fast they dry!! We should roll a SR ER hybrid!!
Do you have any pics of your? I've noticed two different phenos myself. It's weird though, this 3rd plant looked more like the 1st plant, but the trimmed bud looks like the bud of the 2nd. Like the 2nd plant, the sugar leaves are really thick and I had to cut most of them completely off. On the 1st plant, the sugar leaves were small and almost completely covered with resin so I was able to just trim them up a little and keep some on. I know that's more of a personal preference, but I like to keep the smaller leaves on or cut them in 1/2 if they are sticky. I don't really see any difference in taste with the sugar leaves on. Also, this 3rd plant isn't minty like the first 2.
No, I don't use any supplemental nutes. Just good old promix and Botanicare Pure Blend Pro. Next time I'm thinking about picking up some cal-mag. To be honest, I'm very skeptical about 90% of the products out there. Not that I don't think they might help, it's just that there isn't very much scientific data out there proving their effectiveness. Customer testimonial doesn't count. I've never used FFOF soil, but from what everyone says about it, it seems like it's pretty strong stuff. Considering I used promix, which is inert, and I only fed maybe 5 times and 1/2 strength throughout their entire life, you probably won't need to add much extra. Probably a good idea to cut it with the black gold like you did too. I've seen quite a few guys burn seedling planting directly into 100% FFOF.
Yeah I've noticed that. Seems like people get better results indoors compared to outside. I think it has something to do with being able to keep them on a 20/4 inside compared to the 14/10 I was getting outside. Factor in cloudy days and a few trees blocking my light in the morning and evening and I'm actually only getting like 8 hours of direct sunlight a day. Although I think hour to hour, sunlight is much stronger than indoor light. Just needed more of it.
SmeLLyTreeZ
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One day my friend lol.. Maybe we will just hold off and do a WonderWoman/ceres purple
Northgrowman
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That last cola looks fantastic
That last cola looks fantastic
Northgrowman
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I had some Disel ryder & lowryder 2 af out this summer but was not lucky with the weather so the yield was not near as nice as yours
pabloesqobar
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Looking good Sonar! That Easyryder looks almost identical to my first one. Not big, but I love the smoke. I'll be growing more of them next season. I just harvested a Diesel Ryder that I'm looking forward to trying. I've only used FFOF for my autos and they seem to love it. I don't start feeding until at least 3, sometimes 4 weeks into the grow. Given their short life span, and the long time between watering, they don't get much nutes. So far I've been disappointed in the amount I get from each auto. I've got a fairly good selection to choose from for next season, tho. Cheers.
No idea bout you guys, but my ERs are ready for water every other day at this stage of their lives (around day 28-30). Used to be around 3 days when they were younger but they're drinking it up fast now, with no signs of over watering except the bottom set of leaves which are literally at soil level and get soaked every time I water.
sonar
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Well if it isn't insanely hot and they are calling for water that much, maybe they need a bigger pot? I had mine in 2 gallon buckets and when it would rain, the soil would be completely saturated and they wouldn't need water again for at least 4-5 days. Although towards the end, they were drinking it up a little quicker.
RDGgreenthumb
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Looking good sonar! I was contemplating some autos for next year but looking at everyones yields from them i think they'd be better suited indoors. Keep it up man ill be checking you guerilla thread too. Peace
Tough comparison since you grew outdoors and your plants would get totally saturated, whereas I try not give much more water than the soil will hold without it all running out the bottom, but it's interesting to know. I'm using 2 gallon pots for mine, which is what almost everyone had recommended to me when I started the grow, although the soil isn't all the way to the top of course. Since then I've seen that a lot of people prefer 3 gallons for their autos, but I'm committed to 2 gallons for this grow. I'd probably fill the pots slightly higher next time though. On the topic of temps, it's no secret in my journal that I've battled temps lol, but for the most part now they stay between 75-85 in my main box, and might climb as high as 90 when measured at the leaves nearest a bulb using a probe. I wasn't planning on using a second box originally and when I built it for my 2 extra plants the only fan I had available was like 37 CFM I think. It's fine for replenishing the air in the box, but doesn't do much to cool things.
sonar
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Know I'm a little late on this but the final results on in. The 3rd plant weighed in at 18g, bring the grand total up to 40g for the 3 plants. So that's a little less than an oz and a half.
Made a few mistakes along the way, but all in all I'm satisfied with the grow. The 3rd plant was by far the best. Not as minty as the first two, but a little bit more on the fruity side. Dunno if it's because it had extra time to mature, or if there are a few different phenos. Regardless, it went pretty fast. I only have about 2g left.
Here are some comments/suggestions for anyone growing this outside.
1) Start indoors under veg lights at least 3 weeks, or until they show sex. Depending on soil, around this time they will be ready for their first LIGHT (1/2 strength) feeding.
2) Transplant into containers no smaller than 2 gallon then move to your outdoor site. 3 gallon think would be better or ever 2.5 gallon if you can find it. Like any plant, give as much unobstructed sunlight as possible.
3) Easy Ryder do not require a lot of nutes. I fed once a week to ten days with 1/2 strenght bloom nutes.
4) be prepared for this strain to go 10 weeks from seed. Possibly even longer.
Made a few mistakes along the way, but all in all I'm satisfied with the grow. The 3rd plant was by far the best. Not as minty as the first two, but a little bit more on the fruity side. Dunno if it's because it had extra time to mature, or if there are a few different phenos. Regardless, it went pretty fast. I only have about 2g left.
Here are some comments/suggestions for anyone growing this outside.
1) Start indoors under veg lights at least 3 weeks, or until they show sex. Depending on soil, around this time they will be ready for their first LIGHT (1/2 strength) feeding.
2) Transplant into containers no smaller than 2 gallon then move to your outdoor site. 3 gallon think would be better or ever 2.5 gallon if you can find it. Like any plant, give as much unobstructed sunlight as possible.
3) Easy Ryder do not require a lot of nutes. I fed once a week to ten days with 1/2 strenght bloom nutes.
4) be prepared for this strain to go 10 weeks from seed. Possibly even longer.
Thanks for the yield and smoke report, I've been anxious to see it. My Easy Ryders were all doing fantastic until about 2 weeks ago when something started to afflict them, rapidly turning the bottom leaves yellow and wilting them, before eventually killing each afflicted leaf over a course of 2 to 3 days each (wasn't over watering and wasn't the natural color change as the plants near maturity). Happened to all 5 of my ERs simultaneously. Still don't have the problem under control despite my best efforts, and I've lost all my old/large fan leaves on my two large phenos and my mid-sized pheno, and a fair number of fan leaves off my small phenos. The problem started at the bottom and has been meticulously working its way up the plants.
Speaking of phenos which you've mentioned, I definitely have at least two very distinctive varieties, and the differences are abundantly clear. My two smallest plants at days 40 and 45 look like 9" tall twins, very much like the pics on Attitude's site, and the buds are maturing much faster than the other pheno(s). My larger ones (taller and wider) also look like twins but are very different in appearance, yet at the same time are obviously the same strain. They grew faster and larger than the smaller pheno, but the buds are maturing much slower than the smaller variety. Best guess is that the small plants, currently at about 6 weeks from seed, are 1 to 2 weeks from harvest (which is in keeping with the packaging claims), however the larger plants are probably 3-4 weeks away, which is in keeping with what a lot of others that have grown these have experienced.
Best guess is that most people wound up with the larger phenotype, but personally I'd rather have the smaller one. It's much easier to grow and maintain in a small indoor space, yet it's just large enough to support the yield that I would expect to get from these, whereas the larger ones have a lot of wasted space. Too bad there's no way to know which one you'll have until they start to flower. At that point you'll know very quickly which one you have because the larger pheno goes through an explosive stretch phase of about 3/4" per day. Very tasky btw if you're using CFLs and trying to keep them about an inch from the plant lol. That resulted in leaves getting burned more than once despite my best efforts to stay on top of things.
Anyway, thanks for keeping the journal and following up with the yield and smoke report. My yield is definitely going to be affected because of aforementioned fan leaf problem, as well as some heat issues and my pots are smaller than I thought they were. At this point I'll be happy to get a 1/4 from each plant but we'll see, they still have some time left, especially the larger phenos if they survive that long with any fan leaves left.
Speaking of phenos which you've mentioned, I definitely have at least two very distinctive varieties, and the differences are abundantly clear. My two smallest plants at days 40 and 45 look like 9" tall twins, very much like the pics on Attitude's site, and the buds are maturing much faster than the other pheno(s). My larger ones (taller and wider) also look like twins but are very different in appearance, yet at the same time are obviously the same strain. They grew faster and larger than the smaller pheno, but the buds are maturing much slower than the smaller variety. Best guess is that the small plants, currently at about 6 weeks from seed, are 1 to 2 weeks from harvest (which is in keeping with the packaging claims), however the larger plants are probably 3-4 weeks away, which is in keeping with what a lot of others that have grown these have experienced.
Best guess is that most people wound up with the larger phenotype, but personally I'd rather have the smaller one. It's much easier to grow and maintain in a small indoor space, yet it's just large enough to support the yield that I would expect to get from these, whereas the larger ones have a lot of wasted space. Too bad there's no way to know which one you'll have until they start to flower. At that point you'll know very quickly which one you have because the larger pheno goes through an explosive stretch phase of about 3/4" per day. Very tasky btw if you're using CFLs and trying to keep them about an inch from the plant lol. That resulted in leaves getting burned more than once despite my best efforts to stay on top of things.
Anyway, thanks for keeping the journal and following up with the yield and smoke report. My yield is definitely going to be affected because of aforementioned fan leaf problem, as well as some heat issues and my pots are smaller than I thought they were. At this point I'll be happy to get a 1/4 from each plant but we'll see, they still have some time left, especially the larger phenos if they survive that long with any fan leaves left.
sonar
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I've had that yellowing problem with my non auto plants, but the leaves on these stayed green until the day I picked them.
Personally I liked the bigger pheno better. It was really fruity tasting. The smaller one got extremely frosty, but the sugar leaves were really thick and had to be completely removed. A lot when to waste and it took forever to trim.
I really like this strain when I was growing it, but I dunno if I'd ever grow it again. Next season I might give Diesel Ryder a try.
Personally I liked the bigger pheno better. It was really fruity tasting. The smaller one got extremely frosty, but the sugar leaves were really thick and had to be completely removed. A lot when to waste and it took forever to trim.
I really like this strain when I was growing it, but I dunno if I'd ever grow it again. Next season I might give Diesel Ryder a try.
Yeah, yours looked amazingly green when you were about ready for harvest, and in general the plants looked killer. Mine looked that way too until this problem happened, but of course I wasn't ready for harvest so I don't know if they would have or will start to get the typical deficient appearance in the leaves just before harvest. My problem definitely wasn't the routine yellowing of the leaves shortly before harvest. If I weren't able to get it under control all of my fan leaves would be completely gone well before I made it to harvest, and that isn't normal.
The problem seems to be getting under control finally, after switching from my Brita filtered water to distilled water, and after 2 feedings/waterings using "Revive", and one feeding/watering with bloom nutes (all watering included Hygrozyme as well). I'm pretty convinced it was related to changing my Brita filter from my 1-2 year old filter to my brand new one that caused it, since I did that about 1-2 days before the problem started, but I can't specifically say why it caused it. Nothing else whatsoever changed in my regimen except I fed them Molasses once, but I'm pretty sure I saw the problem starting before that. Besides, almost everyone uses Molasses and it doesn't kill off all their fan leaves or they wouldn't use it.
As far as the two Pheno's appearance, my smaller Pheno totally looks like a XMAS tree that's been flocked, they're totally dusted at 6 weeks. My larger pheno hasn't taken on that appearance yet after the same amount of time, but I presume that'll happen pretty soon. As you say, the sugar leaves do look very thick on the smaller ones, so I guess I'll have to remove them too. This is my first rodeo so I'm still going to have to learn the ins and outs of the entire harvesting process.
I would grow these again, the size is right and they're fun plants to grow, but I just purchased the seeds for my next grow and it didn't include any Easy Ryders. I'm not going to do more than 4 plants this next time (maybe less) and they're all different strains: Afghan Kush Ryder, Red Dwarf, Sweet Dwarf, and Snowryder. Got a bunch of great freebies as usual but they're all Photoperiod, and I don't want to mess with them yet, maybe when next season comes and I can grow outdoors. Still have freebies left from my Easy Ryder purchase, in fact I might grow one of those instead (Blue Him. Diesel auto).
Anyway, congrats on your grow, especially since you were able to do it outside and save a buttload of money on equipment and elctricity that I had to blow. Your plants looked killer.
sonar
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Thanks a lot buddy. I had a similar problem with the fan leaves turning yellow and falling off early into flowering with one of big photoperiod plants. I thought it could have been pH or needed some cal mag, but I really had no idea. I ended up just giving it 2 heavy feedings a couple days apart and it stopped it. The leaves that had any yellow to them still ended up dying though. They don't turn back to green again. In that case I think because it started flowering so suddenly and heavily that it pulled what it needed out of the fan leaves. It happened so quick I went from having a near perfect plant that was full and green to a skeleton in like 5 days. It pulled through, but no question it affected the final yield.
Well it sounds like you have an excellent lineup for your next grow. Is Sweet Dwarf from Advanced Seeds? The first auto I did was their Low Girl and I really enjoyed it. The yield was pathetic, something like 5g, but it was completely my fault. I did it just as an experiment and planted it in a horrible outdoor plot. It got like no light. The little that was there was excellent though. Nice piney smell and taste and very potent. Curious to see how Sweet Dwarf does.
Sorry for taking so long to reply, I wasn't subbed to your thread. Wow, your yellowing problem was even worse than mine by the sounds of it. Mine are near skeletons now as far as the fan leaves go, still have plenty of sugar leaves, but it's taken a good 3 weeks of losing them to get to this point. Real question is what's going to happen between now and harvest in a couple weeks if I don't have hardly any fan leaves left. At this point if I harvested today I'd estimate around half an Oz from each plant give or take. Since I have another 10-14 days left I'm hoping that will increase closer to 3/4 of an Oz per plant, but I'll be satisfied either way as long as the bud is good and I harvest at the right time. BTW, how many days did yours go from seed to harvest? Seems most people are harvesting around 10 weeks even though they're supposed to harvest at 7.
Yeah, the Sweet Dwarf is from Advanced Seeds. I actually wanted to grow the White Dwarf instead, along with my Red Dwarf from Buddha Seeds, but they didn't have any singles of the White Dwarf so I decided to try out the Sweet Dwarf. Has a very high rating on Attitude's site, allegedly has 16% THC which is pretty good, plus it claims 60 days to harvest which isn't bad. The Afghan Kush Ryder from World Of Seeds that I ordered is supposed to have an amazing 22% THC and have a nice yield. The SnowRyder from Short Stuff Seeds didn't have a THC estimate, just "heavy Indica hit", and an average yield of 15-25g per 6" pot. In case you haven't detected the theme yet I'm all about Indica
. I'll definitely keep another grow journal so you can see how the Sweet Dwarf does, though I'm not going to take as many pictures and post as many updates as I did with my first grow, just way too time consuming.
BuildBigBudz
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Can you get picures?