Queen2Green
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Nice. Don't have to take out tent. Just take pictures with the flash next time at lights out.
Late flowering deficiencies
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Nugsoverhugs
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This isn’t the best pic, but this is a good example of what is happening. It’s an intense yellow. Also, not too sure on the leaves because this is my first grow. But the leaves have always been really green from the start
Queen2Green
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Absolutely. Weed is resilient, and plants get much worse than this. Just get the ph under control and I think you'll be good. If ya can get recharge, I love it. I buy it from amazon. Its an amazing amendment, especially for new growers because it allows for a much wider ph range. I have had great success with ffof and recharge. I used to use nutes week 4-5 of flower, and I still do for certain strains at 1/4 strength during flower. But with many strains I don't even use nutes anymore. I use ffof with 1/3 mix perlite. Recharge every 3rd watering at recomended amount. Top dress once I start to see hungry signs, etc.
Nugsoverhugs
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I looked into it. I read a thread about how heat during shipping can kill off some of the microbes and how there are thousands a different kinds of microbes, but recharge only holds a few. If I were to buy it, Is it ok to use it this late in flowering?
Queen2Green
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I don't see a pic? Yes, they will be but I think they look darker than they should which is why I want to see in natural light. Some parts are a bit glossy. Was yesterday the first time you gave nutes? I misread that at the beginning and just realized. How much water did you feed that in? When I do use nutes in ffof I start at 1/4 strength.
Nugsoverhugs
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Here’s the pic I missed. And when I take the plant out of the tent, the leaves look natural so I agree that I need to just take pics in better lighting. With the water, I’ve been giving it 1/4-1/2 gallon. Not sure if it a lot, but it literally dries up in a day
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Queen2Green
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Thats interesting, I'll have to look into that. I first tried it out last year, but I love the results. For sure you can still use. You will still need to correct the issue, but it's great for all types of reasons. I use until mid flower about every 10 days. By then I figure I have a pretty good colony of microbes built up. I water with molasses every 3rd water after I stop using recharge. But you can use at anytime. Some people use all the way through. If you're using tap water make sure to let it sit a few days first, the chlorine will kill the microbes too.
Nugsoverhugs
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Thank you so much, I’ll try my best to get pics in natural light
Queen2Green
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You know what's funny. I said potassium and then I thought no phosporus and edited, but then I edited it back due to that one picture with the leaf that has the brown edges all around it. That is classic potassium. But now that you posted that last picture, I'm thinking maybe my gut instinct was right when I edited. I'm gonna read back on the post before I respond about watering. Short term memory issues. Thats defintely not enough. Will advise in a moment.
Nugsoverhugs
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I keep going back and forth too. I know that it has nutrients because I just fed it. And since it’s not getting better, nite lockout seems to be the case. When I first saw signs of this, I gave it plain water for 5 days and still, no improvement. So I’m at a standstill. Only thing I can try is to raise ph of water
Queen2Green
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See, bad memory LOL. I see you talked about phosporas in initial post, sorry. Either way, still could be and is just locked out due to ph issues so adding nutes would just make it worse. Especially at that amount with that little water. What size pot are you using? The only reason I said that is for sure not enough is because of the size of the plant.
Bukvičák
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Olympus pH up by Nectar of the Gods! Only way how to quick rise your soil pH. You have long way ahead so you will definitely need to feed them. But every feed will make it even worse untill you fix the pH.
Nugsoverhugs
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Plant is 3 feet tall, in a 5 gallon grow bag. I water it until the bag gets heavy.
Nugsoverhugs
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Should I be 100% it’s a ph issue before I add the bottle of stuff? I’m down to try anything. Wondering if the recharge or ph up would be more beneficial
Queen2Green
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Yeah, is ph issue. I would adjust, do a flush. After she dries out from the flush top dress and move on. When you water, you should be giving her enough water so that you see 10-20% of what you water run out the bottom of pot. She needs a good wet dry cycle, and if you've been watering her like that then she likely has salt/nute buildup too possibly causing the lockout. I like B's idea but I would do a flush to correct the underwatering possible issue in root zone as well. 1/4 to 1/2 gallon is no where near enough for a 5 gallon pot, and that is why you are having to water every day.
Edit: For example, at this point in flowering I would be giving 1 1/2 - 2 gal in 5 gal pot to get 20% runoff.
Bukvičák
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You can wait two more weeks to be sure if you want to see it on your eyes...
Nugsoverhugs
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See, i heard that flushing this late isn’t the best and that’s why I gave it regular water for a couple days instead. When it comes to watering, (I honestly give it more than 1/4 gallon. More like 3/4 possibly) if I give it more than that, it droops for the rest of the day. It’s been a ton of trial and error for me lol
Bukvičák
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You are not late but early mid. Flushing does not rise soil pH only wash out the nuts (which can cause lockout issues).
Nugsoverhugs
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Good to hear. I ordered some of the ph up just now. Would I only have to use it once in a flush or a little bit in plain waterings?
Bukvičák
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Use is to adjust your water pH everytime you need it...