Know your enemy

Balzac89 said:

I'm guessing trespassing?

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I am guessing the small blonde with the big badge let power go to her head and she assualted the U.S. citizen because he was slow to bend over and obey her commands

OregonMeds said:

We must avoid the people looking like the bad guys in anoyones eyes if for no other reason than to make UN sanctioned intervention unpopular. I'm telling you guys, this requires thinking way outside the box and even if you don't believe the matrix and aliens and etc are all real, all you need to do is look at what is happening to people in other countries where they try to protest. The more I read, the more I see that mind control only goes so far and they require us to push eachother over a certain point. They need violence to bring on more violence, anger to bring on more anger. Us to take out ourselves. As silly as this all sounds, things are pointing me to believe it's time to work together in peace and love and understanding that most aren't in full control of their own moods or actions who you would think are against us. This requires understanding our place in the universe better, understanding we have been mislead for thousands of years with informatation about how the universe actually exists hidden from us, learning that information and mastering it's use and understanding there really is more that goes on in this world than meets the eye. The matrix was not just an entertainment movie, together we have more power than they do or they would not need to reduce our population and therefore their workforce and profits. They are getting afraid of us, and you need to recognize why. It's not the military power of the average person they fear. It's the general population learning powerful secrets, and being fully self aware of what we are actually capable of, and above the influence of propaganda, violence, and fear.

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See Bold large print, this is what is needed to change the tide. Violence and "in your face" tactics do nothing but put a bad spin on MJ. Yeah, should we have the right to speak out, I agree, but at what point does your right to speak out bring a bad name to your cause.

There are far better avenues to pursue this agenda than being arrested for it.
In all respect Subcool, I understand your point, but lets continue increasing our understanding of our own peaceful ways and "think out of the box".

Continue telling people of the medical qualities and showing actually research of it.
The old axiom stands clear once again, "You catch more flies with sugar rather than vinegar".

Peace to all and delve deep into your minds to understand yourself and the answers will come.

Plantvision

plantvision said:

See Bold large print, this is what is needed to change the tide. Violence and "in your face" tactics do nothing but put a bad spin on MJ. Yeah, should we have the right to speak out, I agree, but at what point does your right to speak out bring a bad name to your cause.

There are far better avenues to pursue this agenda than being arrested for it.
In all respect Subcool, I understand your point, but lets continue increasing our understanding of our own peaceful ways and "think out of the box".

Continue telling people of the medical qualities and showing actually research of it.
The old axiom stands clear once again, "You catch more flies with sugar rather than vinegar".

Peace to all and delve deep into your minds to understand yourself and the answers will come.

Plantvision

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Few Questions sir?

How many days have you spent in a cage? My Count is over 900
How many days have you spent shackled next to a violent criminal on a bus crapping in a steel box?
Have many stitches do you have from knife wounds
Sometimes a dog that being kicked needs to bite back.
Sub

subcool said:

Few Questions sir?

How many days have you spent in a cage? My Count is over 900
How many days have you spent shackled next to a violent criminal on a bus crapping in a steel box?
Have many stitches do you have from knife wounds
Sometimes a dog that being kicked needs to bite back.
Sub

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Right on, but it is not the only solution.

subcool said:

Few Questions sir?

How many days have you spent in a cage? My Count is over 900
How many days have you spent shackled next to a violent criminal on a bus crapping in a steel box?
Have many stitches do you have from knife wounds
Sometimes a dog that being kicked needs to bite back.
Sub

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Just so you know I meant all my comments with due respect to you.

I have spent a few, not as many as you, worst times of my life, as a person that doesn't adhere to violence, well you know inside does not mix well.

I am the same way I try to keep it inside and then I usually explode, so I understand that at some point you need to "bite back"

Just trying to win this war on MJ, and I do not think violence will work.

I hope we both can stay out of KL, but I always buck the good trend it seems

subcool said:

Few Questions sir?

How many days have you spent in a cage? My Count is over 900
How many days have you spent shackled next to a violent criminal on a bus crapping in a steel box?
Have many stitches do you have from knife wounds
Sometimes a dog that being kicked needs to bite back.
Sub

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A FUCKEN MEN!!!!!! And we wonder why people want to bomb and blow up the American Government.

THOSE WHO MAKE PEACEFUL REVOLUTION IMPOSSIBLE MAKE VIOLENT REVOLUTION INEVITABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!---JFK

I spent a total of 5 years in FEDERAL PRISON...SENT BY AND FOR A SOCIETY WHO HAS BANNED NATURE.

I have a feeling that since 9/11 America has begun a process of reaping what it has sown! But that feels like a excuse to not begin a revolution now!

MixedMelodyMindBender said:

A FUCKEN MEN!!!!!! And we wonder why people want to bomb and blow up the American Government.

THOSE WHO MAKE PEACEFUL REVOLUTION IMPOSSIBLE MAKE VIOLENT REVOLUTION INEVITABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!---JFK

I spent a total of 5 years in FEDERAL PRISON...SENT BY AND FOR A SOCIETY WHO HAS BANNED NATURE.

I have a feeling that since 9/11 America has begun a process of reaping what it has sown! But that feels like a excuse to not begin a revolution now!

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Thanks for quoting me plantvision, you see what's going on. The average tv watching sheeple or people that simply don't look for answers on their own don't realize their being propagandized and manipulated with mass media etc, and also subcool I don't think you realize you are being played in just as effective a manner, if not more so.

I'm wondering how much you have thought to compare recent news and world events, and how it would all be coming to the way it is not just here for you, but in places all over the world. And then how much you stepped outside yourself and your issue with MJ legality to look at the bigger picture and for the real causes and what ties it all together and who could pull off this kind of huge influence in the world. The power and goals behind the madness as it were.

Forget all about marijuana legality right now, in the grand scheme of things it's irrelevant and unimportant at this time. Not to mention a complete waste of your time right now because you don't have a chance winning it. Don't only concentrate on our lost rights, or small issues like that, or you will completely miss the bigger picture.

Have you noticed how much propaganda there is on the internet and youtube as well, just pushing and pushing and doing everything possible to incite a revolution and mass hysteria and fear in this country? Have you ever wondered why someone would allow that to happen and build momentum, and who might want to create a civil war or all this insanity? As things have gotten crazier and crazier, I've started to open my mind to larger and more off the wall possibilites for why things may be happening the way they are.

Have you followed much or thought much of the stuff on youtube etc about 2012, UFO's, Conspiracy Theories, all the Spirituality and historical similarities? Someone is playing the ultimate headgames worldwide, on a scale noones seen or even considered before, and we should all be asking ourselves who could do that and why, and searching for answers that don't involve playing the game the way it's clearly being laid out country by country.

If we loose all the people like you that can think for themselves and aren't afraid to speak up and educate others and show them the bullshit, and are left with only sheeple's votes, where will we be come next election, or next, or next? The number of people who can rise above all the manipulation are few and far between as it is, it would seem. Maybe smoking pot or tripping or something has left us the ability to think more clearly and long term than the sober ones, or to be less affected by manipuation I don't know but that may explain the level of fight against certain drugs.

No sensible leadership of any country (no matter how evil and greedy) would be doing the things they are doing to intentionally destroy the earth we live on, to intentially destroy the seas that support us, to intentionally kill the bees that pollentate everything, to wipe out our own ability to grow our own food and make it illegal to do so like sb510, to make us completely dependant on outside sources of food and water to even live at all. To take even the possibility of sovereignty and self sufficiency completely away which goes against ANY thought of rational national security. If it were up to me, I'd have every leader and everyone they are in contact with, every policeman, every FBI and DHS and TSA Army, Navy, Air Force, etc etc *every person in authority worldwide* report for a full body x-ray and MRI *IMMEDIATELY*, to see if anything can be found. MRI having already been found to short circuit any internal electronics even on the nano scale makes it ***especially and exceedingly valuable***.
If only we had a satellite based MRI to wipe the world clean with.

Start with that thought, because nothing makes sense otherwise.

Everything we think we know about 2012, information from NASA on a possible dark matter planet, and possibly other planetary changes, and possible coming apolcalypse, could easily be nothing more than part of the mass deception against our world, and designed simply to undermine our ability to defend ourselves. All these things could easily be faked and none of us would know it.

I would think every leader and soldier etc would want to know if their thoughts are their own, if in fact they are their own, and take it upon themselves to find out if they and their colleagues are affected or not ASAP to know who they can trust if nothing else. What better way for some aliens to take over this world than to have us all fight among and kill eachother and destroy our whole planets ability to feed and defend itself from some alien threat.

This could be the way out of all this without playing the game as laid out for us, and at least it is a way to know for sure who you can trust.

Something going on in the world, eh? These culture clashes are as old as civilization itself. What we have now in our new millenium are several clashes of theology.. Theology that our culture initiates us into from birth..

Exclusive nontolerant religions vs Inclusive tolerant religions
Authoritarian/Tyranny states vs Democracy

With the collapse of the Soviet Union, America became the sole super power of the world. The fall of the Soviet Union signaled the triumph of Democracy over Communism, and solidified democracy as the dominant theology of the world. America, the protestant Christian king, sole super power of the world, feels it is its moral obligation to ensure order throughout the world.

9-11 was more then just a terrorist stunt.. rather a loud cry of barbarians outside the gates of civilization, this is serious(History heads know what im talking about). It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the terrorist of today is the barbarian of yesterday. America, to protect itself from a barbarian invasion, must extinguish the threat entirely.

Exclusive nontolerant religion
Authoritarian/Dictatorial government

These according to much of the theology of our politics in America are the breeding grounds for extremists who are more likely to respond violently to their oppressive social conditions. America being the sole super power and protestant christian king has a moral obligation then to stand against tyranny and the oppression of peoples around the world. Such America feels, is not only in the best interest of America, but civilization itself.

America supports social democratic revolution and seeks to export its brand of democracy, and culture of tolerance and diversity.

Exclusive nontolerant religions are seen as religions of the sword, Judeo-Christian, Islam

Inclusive tolerant religions are seen as religions of peace, gnostics, mystics, kabbalah, and the likes

"America, to protect itself from a barbarian invasion, must extinguish the threat entirely."

I would say you are not thinking for yourself, we need all the peoples of the world and all the armaments of the world to defend ourselves from the real threat if at all possible, rather than to fight amongst ourselves and cut our ability to defend against anything.
Did you always have the thoughts that you must exterminate everyone that doesn't think like you? Do you have missing days in your memory? Do you remember how it felt when you were happier, moments in your life when you accomplished goals or met your wife or first girlfriend or graduated school etc? Can you relate emotion properly any more?

mixdedmelodymindbender

I know what you're thinking, at least you can tell you are thinking for yourself. I don't mean just go with the flow and allow more and more rights to go away, I do mean to to work within the manner most likely to get results, and avoid playing the game as laid out.
People are all too trigger happy and wanting to war these days, dominate all countries kill off everyone that doesn't think their way, this is a serious flaw is something new in our collective psyche, and it doesn't have to be that way.
Especially don't concentrate on just the small stuff like subcool was and inadvertantly overlook the bigger issue. First we have to stop the cause of all this to survive, then we can worry about pot is more accurately what I am saying. Everyone has become less tolerant and more warlike worldwide for a reason beyond our normal comprehension, and there is an easy way out of that and to make sure everyone is thinking for themselves. Get an MRI, reconnect with your spirit and inner concience, think carefully about what is right and then if you still think and feel the same, knowing full well those are your own thoughts then so be it.

Anything less is just allowing yourself to be used as a pawn.

What is the real threat? Isn't it tyranny? Or what about the radical extremist from exclusive nontolerant religions? OregonMeds, you may not realize it but your post REAKS of the spirit of that American king I spoke of in my last post.. you may not like it, but you are actively involved in the affairs of America. America in the 21st century is all about the exportation of democracy, capitalism, and inclusive tolerant religions...you know, those religions that are all about peace, and reconnecting with your inner self and all that.. Your even speaking of some of it in your own post. This is a response to many things, but the trigger that ignited this movement in the US was 9-11.

When one looks back into what is revealed from history, many wars and blood has been shed by the sword of exclusive nontolerant religions. America in the 21st century will actively promote liberty and equality for all, especially the women of exclusive nontolerant religions. America will support and provide military aid to democratic revolutions in the promotion of American-Indian Democracy and the fight against tyranny, and exclusive nontolerant religions. Iraq was the start of a long process of nation building of pax Americana states throughout the middle east to establish US control of oil, and many other things

Im just calling it out I see it, when were talking about political culture, we have to be objective. No need to get personal, as none of my posts reflect me personally

Something going on in the world, eh? These culture clashes are as old as civilization itself. What we have now in our new millenium are several clashes of theology.. Theology that our culture initiates us into from birth..



(Yes, culture initiates you into from birth and feeds you hate and intolerance on a daily basis still to this day. What happened to freedom of religion, freedom of expression, separation of church and state? Why did you allow yourself to be initiated to your thoughts of global domination and genocide rather than using your own conscience and judgement?)


Exclusive nontolerant religions vs Inclusive tolerant religions
Authoritarian/Tyranny states vs Democracy

(Who's democracy? See above. You speak of ethnic cleansing and everything against what our democracy was founded on. You speak of mass genocide exactly like Nazi idealogy, that it is somehow a good idea to wipe out ethnicities and religions entirely? My grandfather and yours too probably gave their lives to stop that kind of idealogy fighting the Nazi's in ww2. Were our grandfathers deceived in fighting against that tyranny or you, or both? Were the Nazi's the good guys or bad guys?)

With the collapse of the Soviet Union, America became the sole super power of the world. The fall of the Soviet Union signaled the triumph of Democracy over Communism, and solidified democracy as the dominant theology of the world. America, the protestant Christian king, sole super power of the world, feels it is its moral obligation to ensure order throughout the world.

(Democracy doesn't purport to control and enslave and or kill most inhabitants of it's world. This is not democracy. America the protestant cristian king? What do you know about america at all with a comment like that? See separation of church and state, and freedom of religion. I take it you are protestant? Meaning you believe in Jesus? Would he support your idealogy of wiping the middle east off the map or killing anyone at all period?)


9-11 was more then just a terrorist stunt.. rather a loud cry of barbarians outside the gates of civilization, this is serious(History heads know what im talking about). It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the terrorist of today is the barbarian of yesterday. America, to protect itself from a barbarian invasion, must extinguish the threat entirely.

(A handfull of barbarians as you call them, are incapable of overcoming our entire national defenses to the degree of what happend. You've done absolutely zero research into 911 and the complexities and inconsistancies of it all. You are brainwashed entirely and simply believing what our mass media and government is telling you, and not at all researching anything or thinking for yourself.)

Exclusive nontolerant religion
Authoritarian/Dictatorial government

(I can't tell who you are referring to, but this sounds like america's brand of democracy today.)


These according to much of the theology of our politics in America are the breeding grounds for extremists who are more likely to respond violently to their oppressive social conditions. America being the sole super power and protestant christian king has a moral obligation then to stand against tyranny and the oppression of peoples around the world. Such America feels, is not only in the best interest of America, but civilization itself.

(Where do you keep getting your information? You are the most extreme extremist that I have talked to in my entire life. You are correct that we need to stop extremism, that means stopping you. We were the worlds melting pot inclusive of all religions and nationalities, you violate everything this country is founded upon and the basic ideals of democracy. All humans fight opression with the same neverending conflict, you would fight our country being opressed just as their fight theirs being opressed and you should go **read the wolfowitz doctrine** our foreign policy is based upon to see who is the opressor, our foreign policy is to undermine and opress the entire world, all you need to do is go read it on wikipedia.) You start with the idea of people responding violently against opressive social conditions, this is just human nature but then you end with the idea it is good to be opressing them violently for everyones own good? Ever hear the term circular logic?

America supports social democratic revolution and seeks to export its brand of democracy, and culture of tolerance and diversity.

(By genocide and slaughtering other faiths entirely? This is your culture of tolerance and diversity? Do you know what either term means at all?)


Exclusive nontolerant religions are seen as religions of the sword, Judeo-Christian, Islam

(Judeo-christian is nontolerant, but you supporting mass genocide is tolerant?)

Inclusive tolerant religions are seen as religions of peace, gnostics, mystics, kabbalah, and the likes.

(These religions are more tolerant, is this one you believe in or are you protestant or what I can't tell where your logic comes from that one sect of catholic or cristian is so much better than another. I admit some are absolutely pathetic and breed extremism, but we have done absolutely nothing in our society to correct or counter that infuence. We give air time to all the extremist catholic and cristians without regard to what the outcome is, and that could have been easily avoided and they could be deprogrammed just like you could be.)

(Do you believe in Jesus and what religion are you? Also what branch of the service are you in? I am athiest but I have studied many religions to get the good that is in each of them, and show more qualities of tolerance and acceptance and am far more "christ minded" and level headed than you sound, what is wrong with that picture? What plans do you have for athiests like me? And gays, please tell me if you want them dead too. What about how I disagree with you on all these points, if I speak with freedom of speach am I your enemy too? I have no desire to harm you at all, or anyone for that matter, only to help you see the light. Is that acceptable?)

Also did you choose your religion, or were you born into a land or family where it was dominant, and propagandised for your entire life and just went with it? Had you been born into a land with Islam as it's main religion, you sound ripe to have been an Islamic terrorist yourself.

I don't take any of it personal, nor am I fighting with you. I am trying to understand where you are coming from. Are you human? Have you ever smoked weed or felt a connection to your conscience? You have only 3 posts here, what is your purpose here all the sudden? Are you in any military service branch or under federal or state employment?

And lastly do you believe in 2012 and great earth destruction, is that why you want to make sure the people who are left are the least violent? That may explain some of your thoughts to differentiate you from a Nazi like ideology, which just seemed to want to kill and dominate for no reason other than power and control. Tell me your thoughts on coming global changes.

Do not confuse me talking about the tones of NEOCONSERVATISM IN THE UNITED STATES with my own personal beliefs or morals, I am ONLY speaking of the political climate of America. Americans such as yourself are not willing to admit that its very nature has become imperialistic. Americans scoff at the mention of empire because it seems contrary to its democratic theory, as it generally refers to a sole power.

Im not going to read all that.. Skimming through your post, I can see your probably getting heated and caught up in a misunderstanding. The very same American principles and ideals you are attacking me for lacking is the EXACT same thing I am talking about the United States exporting to Authoritarian/Dictatorial states and exclusive noninclusive religions of the sword, by supporting democratic revolution and overall military muscle.

Believe it or not, your way of thought may even fall into the NEOCONSERVATISM ideology in America.

I'm glad you can atleast except the obvious that you do not know me, and that is the truest thing of my nature you have said. Your jumping to way to many conclusions.. Your reaction to what I am saying to you is exactly why politicians don't tell the American people everything, they either aren't ready to hear it or dont understand it. I'm not advocating this behavior or that behavior. It is what it is.

Im not going to get any more into the neo ish either, read some of Kalki Gaur, you will enjoy it. Trust. But before you do, ask yourself these questions..

What do you think America should do for the equality of women abroad? Or the oppression of people in dictatorial governments? With the triumph of Democracy and America over Communism and the Soviet Union, what is our responsibility to the rest of the oppressed 3rd world who have yet to eat from the same tree of freedom and democracy as we? Shall we leave them to tyranny?

You couldn't even be bothered to read my post or answer a single question which is incredibly disrespectful, but I will answer your last question. We put those dictatorial governments there and kept them in power and what I think we should have done is to have stopped supporting them and let them fall on their own. Bombing countries, shooting and killing many does not help to save the few who survive only phycologically scars them worse than the dictators in the first place. We will suffer greatly worldwide for all this.

What was I supposed to gain from this Kalki Gaur, other than to see it is a plot to intentionally start ww3 probably written by some elitist american who will never fight the war, but will profit from both sides of it. And encouraging indians to fight and die for nothing at all. Encouraging indians to steal and "marry" the "barbarians" women, and basically rape and trade them? Thank you for pointing this sick shit out, this is very serious folks, do you see this? Are you still thinking about your marijuana rights Subcool?

20 million troops, unpaid, mandatory service, trading women? Holy fuck batman we are screwed. India used to be one of the most peaceful nations, with one of the best religions in my opinion. What has happened?

Nukes Deter Barbarian Invasions on Civilizations- Kalki Gaur

Wednesday, 6. September 2006, 09:54
DNA DOCTRINE, ISLAMIC NUKES, MAD DOCTRINE, TERRORIST NUKES
Nukes Deter Barbarian Invasions on Civilizations- Kalki Gaur
http://indiatalking.com/blog/kalkigaur/
Author: Kalki Gaur: American Nuclear Weapon Doctrine © 2006 Copyrights
Nukes Deter Barbarian Invasions on Civilizations
NUCLEAR BLACKMAIL: Nuclear Weapons would deter any preemptive nuclear strikes against India and guarantee that no conventional war would escalate to nuclear levels. Nuclear weapons would deter any form of nuclear blackmail, such as President Nixon’s threat during 1971 Indo-Pak War. India should deploy and weaponize nuclear weapons, develop a credible nuclear arsenal, develop submarine launched SLBM deterrent to claim its rightful status as a Second Super Power.

FREQUENT MILITARY INTERVENTIONS: 21st Century would be the repeat of the 19th Century and perhaps colonialism may resurface. As a nuclear weapons power, India would periodically intervene in overseas conflicts to win or lose smaller wars, so that we could avoid the world war. India could intervene in Afghanistan, Burma, Cambodia, Laos, Somalia, Kurdistan, Angola, Southern Sudan, Ethiopia, East Timor, Bali, and Jaya Irian. India should avoid deploying regular army units and could support private Guerrilla forces or LTTE Tamil Tigers to undertake overseas military operation. India should develop a standing army of 20 million youths that would provide compulsory, military service without salary. The 21st Century Wars would be conventional. The diplomacy during 21st Century would be similar to 19th Century Diplomacy. British colonial history would provide the guide to conduct military diplomacy in the 21st Century. Indian Army in 21st Century would intervene in Afghanistan, Burma, Indonesia, Cambodia, and Somalia to realize the military objectives of 19th Century British Indian Empire. Bay of Bengal in an Indian Lake. Arabian Sea was an Indian lake during 19th Century and first half of the 20th Century. Red Sea was also a lake of British Indian Empire. India has inherited the legacy of British Indian Empire in Asia. India should copy Chinese system of military-industrial Complex financed by foreign joint ventures.

THIRD WORLD WAR: Either Siberia or Australia would be the theater of third World War. Australia would cease to be White ruled State in next decade. China has emerged as the greatest threat to world Peace. India would play a very significant role in the third World War, which would be a conventional war. India should join the alliance most likely to win the war. United States would fail to defeat Chinese invasions of Australia. Russia would fail to defeat Chinese invasions of Siberia. United States would fail to stop the birth of New Native American Indigenous Indian States in North America, South America, and Australia. India, Russia, and the United States would be Allies in the 3rd World War and jointly defeat China.

MULTIPLE MILITARY ALLIANCES: India should maintain a series of overseas military bases to get nuclear second-strike capability. India should develop military bases in Afghanistan, Burma, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Israel, Somalia, and Angola to meet the threat of China worldwide. India should avoid any war in the subcontinent and transform Non-alignment Movement into a Defense Bloc. India could join Commonwealth Common Market. India could join Indian Ocean Region Common Market. India could promote a global alliance of India, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Algeria.

YUGOSLAVIA TYPE THREAT TO INDIA: India should unequivocally declare that any western attempt to intervene in the Indian subcontinent would lead to nuclear retaliation against Western targets. Indian responses to any Yugoslavia type NATO/USA intervention would be nuclear strikes against leading Western targets. Indian Nuclear Weapons Doctrine should unequivocally state that India would use nuclear weapons to ward off any NATO invasion of India. India is vehemently opposed to the NATO interventions in Yugoslavia that caused its disintegration. India could speed up the disintegration of Indonesia, Malaysia, Somalia, Burma, Mexico, Brazil and Angola to ward off any Western attempts to disintegrate India.

CARNIVOROUS NUCLEAR INDIA: India had followed herbivorous Foreign Policy during the Governments of Nehru, Indira Gandhi, and Rajiv Gandhi. Nuclear Hindu India would adopt carnivorous Foreign Policy and militarily prepare India for the looming Conflict of Civilizations. The world could witness the rebirth of Neo-Colonial Empires in the 21st Century. The defeat of United States and the Soviet Union, in the Vietnam War and Afghanistan War, was a turning point in the history. It symbolizes the decline of the white race and the rise of brown and yellow race. Nuclear India should not tolerate any hostile Western move to deny India its rightful place under the Sun.

ECONOMIC WARFARE WEAPONS: India should perfect the instruments of global economic warfare. India should develop Swiss quality Secret Banking Institutions, fight Anti-Opium War, anti-Counterfeit Currency War to economically weaken China that has succeeded in creating a military Leviathan by perfecting the instruments of Economic warfare.

CIVILIZATION’S RESPONSE TO BARBARIAN INVASIONS: Hindu civilization would undergo mass mobilization, and train 50 million Indian soldiers. Nuclear Hindu India would participate in every war all over the world. Regular military training would become compulsory in schools, colleges, and universities. Inter-marriage is a military weapon for the unification of the civilization. Industrial cartels should finance the overseas military operations. India will give legal charter to Private Mercenary Army, allowing overseas law and order functions. The inherent strength of Indian people, once properly harnessed can defeat the barbarian threat to the civilizations. The citizens of the civilizations will willingly provide free manpower and material resources to conquer the lands and women of the barbarian invaders. The Civilizations cannot rest in peace unless the civilizations permanently occupy the homeland of the barbarians, the breeding ground of the barbarians. Indian mercenary Army should marry all the eligible women of Afghanistan and give Indian Muslim women to Afghan Mujahideens in exchange.

It was written by Kalki Guar of Washington DC it says, and calls for undermining every financial and trade instutution on the planet. Check this out, even says microsoft should be undermined, so it is deliberately killing our own industries by way of washington dc if true.
I tried to find authentic info on author and publisher and no luck so far.

I have to remember to not let this crap get to me, but I had been watching India and Russia ramping up arms I had just never seen why.
India is currently the largest weapons buyer on the globe, fyi.

Now we know how the depopulation will go. Time to meditate and try to chill without my weed. Ohhhhhm Ohhhhhm

Sick sick sick:
http://kalkigaur.blogstream.com/

You couldn't even be bothered to read my post or answer a single question which is incredibly disrespectful, but I will answer your last question. We put those dictatorial governments there and kept them in power and what I think we should have done is to have stopped supporting them and let them fall on their own. Bombing countries, shooting and killing many does not help to save the few who survive only phycologically scars them worse than the dictators in the first place. We will suffer greatly worldwide for all this.

What was I supposed to gain from this Kalki Gaur, other than to see it is a plot to intentionally start ww3 probably written by some elitist american who will never fight the war, but will profit from both sides of it. And encouraging indians to fight and die for nothing at all. Encouraging indians to steal and "marry" the "barbarians" women, and basically rape and trade them? Thank you for pointing this sick shit out, this is very serious folks, do you see this? Are you still thinking about your marijuana rights Subcool?

Yeah, bro.. I wanted you to read some of Kalki Gaur so you dont think these radical ideas are my own, and I didn't bother really going through your post because you were attacking ME for revealing to you some of HIS philosophy. America and India are allies in exporting their brand of democracy to 'civilize' the world.

Basically, the thought after 9-11 was that we had a new barbarian threat to civilization, and it is America's obligation as champion of democracy and sole super power to address this threat.

As you see in the news, the United States an allies DO support womens rights, democratic revolution, and religious tolerance. All of this sounds SOO lovely but when you look deeper into it, it has some of the same rings as other radical states of the past (as you pointed out). Politicians don't say in the public forum all of that ish you posted of Kalki because the American public isn't ready to hear that, or except its role as an Imperialistic Empire in the 21st century. The proliterians of yesterday are now the corporate entrepeneurs of today.

America-India has been on a Democratic nation building campaign throughout the middle east for quite some time. They marry the women in India to promote tolerance over intolerance exclusive religions (such as Islam). Something as simple as an Indian Hindu marrying a muslim woman creates a whole slew of problems for the two. Most significant, it puts the two right on the battle lines between clashing ideologies.

A woman not wearing a veil and having equal rights to a man is a revolutionary thought in MANY countries. Perhaps if this woman tastes the fruit of an inclusive tolerant religion in marrying a Hindu/Buddhist Indian, perhaps it will plant the seed of doubt in the validity and utility of her own exclusive nontolerant religion (such as Islam). Perhaps marriage of the Hindu man will give her the courage to stand against the "oppressers" of her friends and family? All of it is to inspire revolutionary thought, to inspire democratic revolution

Check this out, you also said something to me about the '2012' phenomenom
(4) Petro-Colonialism Prevents Apocalypse

Neo-Conservatism advocates that President Bush should establish Petro-Colonial Empire in Iraq, Iran and other parts of the Middle to checkmate the looming specter of Apocalypse and Armageddon in the Middle East, a region that caused rising oil prices, rising Islamic terrorism and seeking nukes to undertake preemptive nuclear strikes against Christian targets to win Armageddon Wars in favor of Islam. The endorsement of apocalyptic end of time eschatology by Roman Catholic Church and Pope John Paul II (1978-2005) raises the specter of Christian-Islamic Wars of Armageddon in the oil-rich Middle East. Iranian Mullahs seeking nuclear weapons to undertake preemptive nuclear strikes against Christian targets to win the Armageddon in favor of Islam. The Partition of Oil-Producing Nations into colonies of world powers shall prevent the looming specter of Apocalypse and thereby Petro-Colonialism is a lesser evil than the Clash of fundamentalist Religions of Swords. The 21st Century shall be similar to the 18th and 19th Centuries when Colonial Empires were the principal actors in the International system. In 21st Century more than 120 sovereign independent countries shall lose their independence and become part of the Colonial Empires led by world powers, such as the United States, China, India, Japan, Germany, France and Britain.

check this out too..
Bushian Universalism
HISTORY TRANSFORMS CULTURE: One. History is not a prison of Culture. Culture shapes people, but cultures are changeable, and the cultural melting pot of America and India proves it. In 2005, at second inauguration speech, President Bush spoke that freedom is God’s gift to humanity that people everywhere hunger for liberty. Democracy is an instrument of change of Culture, Society, Politics and the Civilization. Neo-Conservatives do not buy the logic of “Cultural Determinists” that want to raise a high wall around the extremist fundamentalist Islamic society in the Middle East, to let them abuse woman and deny freedom to their people, so long as they do not come outside the wall to make terrorist attacks on America.

NOT A WILSONIAN PLOY: Two. If Bushian Universalism or Crusades for Democracy, simply a Wilsonian foreign policy camouflage to cover up the CIA-sponsored urban demonstrations to legitimize the “Mob Rule” or the “Dictatorship of the Mob” to overthrow democratically elected popular prime ministers and the Presidents in the Third World, then India would oppose it.

USA RE-ELECTIONS FOR ELECTION FRAUDS: Three. President Bush would not have agreed to hold the presidential elections again, if the world leaders demanded or if the demonstrators demanded that the results of presidential elections 2000 or elections of 2004 because of election frauds or faulty election machines. It raises a disturbing issue, Bushian Universalism could be just a Rooseveltian camouflage to justify the CIA-funded mob demonstrations to bring down democratically elected governments, such as in Thailand, Philippines, Belarus, Ukraine, Georgia and other nations. If it were so then India would have nothing to do with Bush/Rice led crusades for democracy. President Jimmy Carter had used the idea of Human Rights to bring down the Pahlevi Monarchy of Shah of Iran and imposed the rule of Ayatollahs in Iran. Critics argue that Bush’s crusades for democracy simply Wilsonian ruse to bring down democratic governments by mob-demonstrations funded by CIA-covert operations. The covert operations against democratically elected governments have the support of the CIA, and the CIA-sponsored military coups have taken second life in form of CIA-sponsored mass demonstrations. The choice is for President Bush and Secretary Rice to make, and this choice shall determine their place in history.

MENACE OF PAPAL ESCHATOLOGY: Thee. President Bush does not believe in Papal Catholic doctrines of eschatology, Apocalypse or Armageddon. Armageddon and Apocalypse foretells the imminent Christian-Islamic religious wars that results in the demise of Islam and Christening of the Islamic Middle East. Neo-Conservative Petro-Imperialism in the oil-rich Islamic world provides a secular alternative to avert imminent Apocalypse and Armageddon, by establishing American colonial empire throughout Islamic oil-producing nations. Muslim women will bless America for freeing them from Wahhabi bondage and servitude and marry Christian soldiers en masse, thereby fulfilling the Apocalypse and Armageddon prophesy by peaceful means. The philosophical principle underlying the doctrines of Apocalypse and Armageddon is that all religions of sword shall perish in the New Millennium. The world civilizations face the problem of murderous ideologies and how to combat them.

MECCA-VATICAN-BEIJING NEXUS: Four. The growing nexus of Semite Wahhabi-Judeo Christian Papacy- Judeo Communist China Axis of extremism, totalitarianism and fundamentalism presents great challenge to the democratic secular Protestant United States and Hindu India. It is only after the First World War, Pope was released form the imprisonment at the Vatican, as succession of Popes had been the prisoners confined to the Vatican from 1977 to 1929. It is only after the First World War and the defeat of the Ottoman Empire that British and American secret services mobilized the barbarian Bedouin dacoits of Mecca regions into a political grouping based on the Wahhabi sect of Islam that prospered only during Meccan Caliphate of first Islamic century. The Bolshevik Revolution of 1917 was a German plot to install German Spy Vladimir Lenin as ruler of Soviet Union to destroy Russian Romanov Monarchy. The American General conspired to install Mao Tse Tung as a Communist Ruler in China, because he was anti-Buddhist. Global alliance of pro-Saudi Wahhabi-Shariah parties, pro-Papacy Christian fundamentalist parties and pro-China Communist/ Socialist/ Leftist political parties emerged as significant electoral force throughout the democratic world. It is no accident that during 2006 President Bush’s trip to India, only Catholics, Muslims and Communists opposed the trip, and continued to do so even after nuclear deal with India. It symbolizes the war waged by Mecca-Vatican-Beijing Axis of fundamentalism over new emerging Washington-Delhi Alliance.

DEMOCRACIES MUST EXPORT DEMOCRACY: Five. Just as Saudi Arabia exports Wahhabi-Shariah polity and China exports Communist polity, India and the United States should jointly export democratic capitalist polity based on the democratic experience of India and the United States, as they both are the Exemplar States in the post-nation state world order. Neoconservative policy to promote democracy worldwide and to modernize backward traditional fundamentalist regimes by social engineering and nation building is a revolutionary foreign policy agenda of President Bush and Secretary Condoleezza Rice and marks a striking break with the Kissinger-like patriarchal amoral realism.

EXPORT DEMOCRACY TO CHINA & MID EAST: Six. India has never thought about exporting democracy and Indian version of democracy even in its neighborhood, while Saudi Arabia filled the vacuum and implanted Shariah laws and Islamic societies in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Bangladesh. The Central Asian Aryan republics of Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan would have readily liberal democratic Indian-type political system, had India learnt from Republican Neoconservatives to export democracy, at least in its neighborhood in Asia? India and the United States should actively promote democratic Neoconservatism as a guiding principle to establish Buddhist Capitalist Democracy in China by engineering the downfall of the repressive Han-dominated Communist rule in China.

Well you didn't indicate those weren't your thoughts originally, calling people barbarians and so forth, could have saved me some typing.

I would like clarification of what you meant by "OregonMeds, you may not realize it but your post REAKS of the spirit of that American king I spoke of in my last post.. you may not like it, but you are actively involved in the affairs of America."

I'm an sthiest who has studied many religions to get the good from them, but won't accept any one because they all have serious flaws. When I ask people if they believe in jesus it's because they're thinking is wrong and to use that as an example of why it's wrong. I don't believe in jesus, there's not even a smidge of exidence for him ever existing as even a regular man, let alone the idea of virgin births and son of god and all the parts that are clearly just stolen from previous religions, but there are many things to be learned from myths like that and some of that "crist like" mindset if actually understood, is very good to have.

I think all religions have been created to divide and conquer equally as much if not more so than to enighten people, but there is good in all of them if you know how to look for it. People can find inspiration in anything, too bad they can't just find it in themselves.
In an ideal world there would be no religion, so people couldn't be manipulated en mass. But I don't see that happening, probably never.

forgot my hip-waders...

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You can blame that on hope and change all you want, but in reality, politicians have been in the pockets of big money for years....

boneheadbob said:

Long ago, the public sector developed an "us vs them" mentality and now we shall reap what we sowed.
Placing parasites and predators in charge of peoples livelyhoods and future is never a good idea.

Hope & change = equal poverty for all except the predator elite at the top of the ladder.

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