Kitty's Commercial Grow Op-Bigger & Better Every Day!

Dystopian said:

Just remember America has had really shitty leaders for the last 20 yrs atleast. For the last thirty years the dollar has been worth more than the Canadian, dont celebrate too soon. And its a proven fact that we can grow better than anyone ever so there... take that.

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Took ya 15 years to catch up growing haha I kid, 15 years ago I was nearly a fetus.

C-mon guys, dont forget about us cali peps.
were all about canada. straight the fuck up.
but our law on medical cannabis is so lean way
now. at least in so cal. i live la county and our law enforcement
really dont care, (as long as your a patient) as a vendor, im hated
by all non pot feds. I try to grow large enough for not only myself, other patients across
cali.(that go to certain locations) and the federal law, does not promote, let alone tolerate.
but do i give a fuck, no. Not even a little. let em come, and raid, ill lose all my hard work yes.
be faceing prison charges, maybe lol.. but do to calis amazing lawers now. we as patients
get backed up on a medical marijuana defense on just about everything. lol so its a risk im definitly willing to take
, and kitty thanks for the info, i already just went and ordered it at amazon anyways.
my great freind is our electrician, lol and my old pe teacher was our realiter haha.
but he already wired the shed for everything, ill be makeing a thread ofcoarse.
i just know that this grow is gonna fuck me at first. (there not paying my electricty bill)
but as soon as i harvest i should be deff on top lol, no trimmin, dryin, curing, nothing.
them fuckers do it all, haha
but again kitty thanx

CultivationArt said:

C-mon guys, dont forget about us cali peps.
were all about canada. straight the fuck up.
but our law on medical cannabis is so lean way
now. at least in so cal. i live la county and our law enforcement
really dont care, (as long as your a patient) as a vendor, im hated
by all non pot feds. I try to grow large enough for not only myself, other patients across
cali.(that go to certain locations) and the federal law, does not promote, let alone tolerate.
but do i give a fuck, no. Not even a little. let em come, and raid, ill lose all my hard work yes.
be faceing prison charges, maybe lol.. but do to calis amazing lawers now. we as patients
get backed up on a medical marijuana defense on just about everything. lol so its a risk im definitly willing to take
, and kitty thanks for the info, i already just went and ordered it at amazon anyways.
my great freind is our electrician, lol and my old pe teacher was our realiter haha.
but he already wired the shed for everything, ill be makeing a thread ofcoarse.
i just know that this grow is gonna fuck me at first. (there not paying my electricty bill)
but as soon as i harvest i should be deff on top lol, no trimmin, dryin, curing, nothing.
them fuckers do it all, haha
but again kitty thanx

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We share similar attitudes.

On the electric note, it appears my circuit breakers in new box arent corrrect, the DIY forums tell me that I should have double throw circuits on them instead........

I get 120v from each prong and ground on the bottom, so I think the wires are crossed somewhere and its just out of phase.

If I cant get it fixed by tomorrow:

http://www.horticulturesource.com/product_info.php?products_id=6035

researchkitty said:

We share similar attitudes.

On the electric note, it appears my circuit breakers in new box arent corrrect, the DIY forums tell me that I should have double throw circuits on them instead........

I get 120v from each prong and ground on the bottom, so I think the wires are crossed somewhere and its just out of phase.

If I cant get it fixed by tomorrow:

http://www.horticulturesource.com/product_info.php?products_id=6035

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Yes, if they are 240V they should be double throw. You can turn the light out by shutting down one leg but still have it hot which is a safety issue. I dont know if those kind of breakers can be fitted with trip ties (plastic clips that make both turn on/off at the same time). If they can it is a simple upgrade. If not then you might have to replace the breakers.

Holy shit. Godly grow up going on in here. Definitely sub'd to this one.

Keep living the dream.

NLXSK1 said:

Yes, if they are 240V they should be double throw. You can turn the light out by shutting down one leg but still have it hot which is a safety issue. I dont know if those kind of breakers can be fitted with trip ties (plastic clips that make both turn on/off at the same time). If they can it is a simple upgrade. If not then you might have to replace the breakers.

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Aah word that makes sense, thanks. They are probably complaining about the fact that its not the "technically rule written" way.

If I'm getting 120v on each outlets prong and ground to the other, why wont a ballast power up? I'm told it might be 'out of phase', which I *think* means the wires are crossed somewhere........... Anyone just joining us the electric discussion starts around post #220-ish......... I'm going to be inspecting the outlets in a little bit. I have till Monday to get them to work.

researchkitty said:

Aah word that makes sense, thanks. They are probably complaining about the fact that its not the "technically rule written" way.

If I'm getting 120v on each outlets prong and ground to the other, why wont a ballast power up? I'm told it might be 'out of phase', which I *think* means the wires are crossed somewhere........... Anyone just joining us the electric discussion starts around post #220-ish......... I'm going to be inspecting the outlets in a little bit. I have till Monday to get them to work.

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Someone pointed out that all the black colored wires should go to the copper side of the plug and all white wires go to the silver side of the plug. If you cross those you might be getting out of phase. Make sure they are all wired like that and try it again. TBH there isnt much more that could be wrong, it is not complex.

NLXSK1 said:

Someone pointed out that all the black colored wires should go to the copper side of the plug and all white wires go to the silver side of the plug. If you cross those you might be getting out of phase. Make sure they are all wired like that and try it again. TBH there isnt much more that could be wrong, it is not complex.

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If I understand, this is 'technically right' but not applicable to my situation. A 120v outlet would use black, white, ground, but a 240v outlet uses two hots and ground instead of hot neutral ground. I didnt know the 'black to brass' trick, so all the white wire is on the brass, the black wire on the other side, and ground bare wire to green.......... Does it matter which side of the outlets are wired to which wire from the circuit since they are both hot? My application on that is where the wires stayed on the same side of the outlet so they all went from one wire to the same prong on every outlet................. In parallel to each other you could say.......... Of course, I think they are, I have to still check them shortly here today =)

researchkitty said:

If I understand, this is 'technically right' but not applicable to my situation. A 120v outlet would use black, white, ground, but a 240v outlet uses two hots and ground instead of hot neutral ground. I didnt know the 'black to brass' trick, so all the white wire is on the brass, the black wire on the other side, and ground bare wire to green.......... Does it matter which side of the outlets are wired to which wire from the circuit since they are both hot? My application on that is where the wires stayed on the same side of the outlet so they all went from one wire to the same prong on every outlet................. In parallel to each other you could say.......... Of course, I think they are, I have to still check them shortly here today =)

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It doesn't really matter as long as they are all wired the same, other wise you don't have a positive 120 and a negative 120.

What Arsehole said.

See, the plug only plugs in one way.

So, whether it is white to copper or white to silver, ALL of the whites have to go to that same copper/silver connector on the plug. So, either one way or the other but uniform through the whole panel.

yeah that sounds like the problem to me i've been lurking and since im no electrical specialist i dont want to comment but i do know a bit and it seems like you have eliminated all other problems and that one is an obvious one that we saw in a picture so if you accidentally got one switched around it could do ya like that.

Time for a photo update...............

Electric issues solved. The suggestion that the 120v was in phases made me think a little about the subpanels construction. Its powered by two hot 120v, and has a ground. If each outlets hot connectors require power from each of the 120v hot lines, then if it pulls power from one circuit, it'll get the same phase of 120v.

So, instead of having each bank of 8 outlets on 'their own' circuit, I wired ALL of the black wire to one and ALL of the white wire to the other. Now each outlet pulls from each 120v hot line and is 'in phase'.

Strangely, everyone here said the box was wired correctly which made me think it was in the outlets or 'unvisible wiring', nobody considered the phase part of it and seems really obvious now. Kinda funny how things end up being simple fixes. Thanks everyone for those few days of help.

Here's some pictures of everything wired CORRECTLY. Hope it helps someone out some day.


#2 - The main panel, 70 amp circuit @ top.



#3 - The new sub panel with two outlets wired to it. I'll connect the other 6 after I post here just wanted to make sure one worked at least.



#4 - See the two blacks? It used to be black/white black/white. Now that its black/black and white/white everything works. I just hope this is how its supposed to be otherwise I'm probably fucked haha



#5 - Aziz, LIGHT! (Fifth Element, Rejoyce)



#6 - Random Upgrade to flower room b. just need a table for weed and the bong and an ash tray.

I'll sleep better at night knowing you solved this.

researchkitty said:

...Aziz, LIGHT!...

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Freakin' love that movie!

Great setup, I hope to emulate it down the road.

Man i hope i have zero elecrical problems. That shit makes my head fuckin fry.
good thing my close friend went to school for all of it.
glad you fixed it though, glad to hear. Mabey you could help me out when i run into problems.
ill be settin up mine once all
my ballasts and hoods arrive. and ofcoarse generater.
everything looks good for you though

CultivationArt said:

Man i hope i have zero elecrical problems. That shit makes my head fuckin fry.
good thing my close friend went to school for all of it.
glad you fixed it though, glad to hear. Mabey you could help me out when i run into problems.
ill be settin up mine once all
my ballasts and hoods arrive. and ofcoarse generater.
everything looks good for you though

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Happy to help any time! I dont think you want MY electrical advice though hehe


There's no question that next time I'd rather go with a pre-wired unit with the timers built in, but I really wanted individual timers that way when it hooks up to the generators this spring they all dont "turn on" at the exact same time making the generator stall. All I would have had to do with the CAP 16 box is connect to an 80 amp circuit with 240v. That's pretty easy!

I set the timers up just now............ Set it to the time, then plugged them in about 10 seconds apart from each other. At midnight tonight if they turn off 10 seconds apart from each other I will be a happy kitty.

cripes I thought converting a an outlet to a plug was complicated...my brain hurts every time I read about this but very very happy (and relieved) that you solved it without well..dying..my grandfather was an electrician and got fried on a telephone poll...his assistant forgot to shut down the breaker electricity scares the shit outta me...so good for you for being able to do this kitty

yea the one im ill be using saying "more than 8,000 watts, wait 10-15 sec to power any more units up".
its a 15000 total, but considering its 1500 per 1000, ill be using just that.
and im gonna go to school and study to be an electrician. just for the knowlage.
cosidering im only 18, i have plenty of time.
im just looking for the quick fix if anything goes wrong. cause once i harvest, get paid.
im out. fuck them. starting my own shit, the proper way.
so ill do this 1 op for them. then the REAL one for me, lol
and so far, im liking your grow ALOT...
everything i want to do. im just gonna keep everything in tabels, and trays.
ill be using the flood and drain. and some cocoa.

researchkitty said:

Time for a photo update...............

Electric issues solved. The suggestion that the 120v was in phases made me think a little about the subpanels construction. Its powered by two hot 120v, and has a ground. If each outlets hot connectors require power from each of the 120v hot lines, then if it pulls power from one circuit, it'll get the same phase of 120v.

So, instead of having each bank of 8 outlets on 'their own' circuit, I wired ALL of the black wire to one and ALL of the white wire to the other. Now each outlet pulls from each 120v hot line and is 'in phase'.

Strangely, everyone here said the box was wired correctly which made me think it was in the outlets or 'unvisible wiring', nobody considered the phase part of it and seems really obvious now. Kinda funny how things end up being simple fixes. Thanks everyone for those few days of help.

Here's some pictures of everything wired CORRECTLY. Hope it helps someone out some day.

#4 - See the two blacks? It used to be black/white black/white. Now that its black/black and white/white everything works. I just hope this is how its supposed to be otherwise I'm probably fucked haha

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Good catch. But now you're creating a single circuit. There should be a hole in your breaker switches, you'll want to get a bar to put through the breakers. If one pops it'll cause some problems.

Almost pissed myself when i read 2600 SQ ft