Kens GDP Changed to Dungeon Vault Genetics

FWIW I've only had gdp clones which are, well, gdp. Ok but they were never kept around more than a few runs.

As far as kens beans I got some freebies of purple dream. It turned purple but I've never grown a plant that did not make trichs until these. Seriously. Zero trichomes.

Have grandpa breath f2 from DVG. Maybe I'll pop them and see who's lying. Lol

I got Grandpas breath on the way. Lets have a grow off.

Velvet Elvis said:

I got Grandpas breath on the way. Lets have a grow off.

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Sure.

I want to be a judge

Ill just sit here and watch you grow them out. Wish there was a way I could send admin seeds to hand out to everyone. I stand by my work. I have been absent on here before when asked questions, but once I remembered to come back and check the thread, I responded.

Where's Ken, cough cough, I mean his minions? They came back to say very very little, talk shit on me, then leave again. I'm sure they have read what I posted by now, dont you? Is it odd they can't come up with an answer or a legitimate response?

I'll leave it there. You guys all know in your heart what is right. I stand behind anything I produce and would love to see more of you growing out my gear. Wish I wouldn't have had such a mouth, but when you've been picked on, bullied, and beaten so much, you tend to have a hot temper. For that, I am sorry.
@Bob Zmuda @Velvet Elvis@Amos Otis @greenghost420 @genuity

It's all good mate, we all understand that shit happens/happened. Best thing to do now is let your work show how good you can be I've never been one to get involved in others business and it's never good to air dirty laundry on a public forum but I still understand human nature. If people feel they've been ripped off or hard done by, I can understand the need for retribution. Both you and Ken have some great gear, all us buyers want is to get something close to the originals, we don't need to see squabbles. Rise above and beyond mate, you're better than that, same goes for Ken.
If you ever need a tester over the other side of the pond, I'm always keen and will do a good job. Stay cool and keep breathing

Dungeons_Vault said:

Where's Ken, cough cough, I mean his minions? They came back to say very very little, talk shit on me, then leave again. I'm sure they have read what I posted by now, dont you? Is it odd they can't come up with an answer or a legitimate response?

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No, not many people can talk as much as you dvg.

Dungeons_Vault said:

Look, Ken's right in the regard to me having a bad attitude towards some folks, but in this industry and many others, the saying "you can't please everyone" rings loudly. I have made mistakes and popped off and said things I shouldn't have. Did I profit off of Ken's name? YES. By hiring me and putting me in the position he did, did Ken help me market and sell my seeds? YES. But, in the end, he was given nearly half of all sales. I'm not gonna lie and say I didn't sell seeds to other people without him knowing, but it was a few packs here and a few packs there... I felt I was more than entitled to do that to help myself survive, seeing Ken wasn't giving me money.

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That's some amusing shit. I can see how this young gentleman of fine character was fired by Ken. To boot, there was a third partner dvg was embezzling from, yet dv keeps insisting on his, more than half. 3 partners and dv makes off with 66.6% of the total seeds. classic entitlement math!

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Don't piece it together like some desperate detective to try and make a point or stick up for Ken.

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sure buddy, whatever you say..

I will run both, and post my feed back here. Good or bad.

209 has spoken.

I like how some folks are piping up like their opinion means shit. Kinda funny.

This is the BS that makes this industry look so childish IMO.

Dungeons_Vault said:

Wish I wouldn't have had such a mouth, but when you've been picked on, bullied, and beaten so much, you tend to have a hot temper. For that, I am sorry.
@Bob Zmuda @Velvet Elvis@Amos Otis @greenghost420 @genuity

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Nobody's perfect. Live and learn, friend. Good luck to you. I think my next pop session might include the DVG mix, some GDPv2s, and the two CLs.

old dogs can learn new tricks! think of every successful breeder, any successful business owner, ceo, president... none get involved in squabbles and mudslinging.

just like in growing, you minimize the variables and set yourself up to succeed. Dont give the haters any fuel. Kill em with kindness.

Gosh darn that dungeons vault guy is super nice, and stnads by his gear. hes too cool its annoying!!!

Velvet Elvis said:

old dogs can learn new tricks! think of every successful breeder, any successful business owner, ceo, president... none get involved in squabbles and mudslinging.

just like in growing, you minimize the variables and set yourself up to succeed. Dont give the haters any fuel. Kill em with kindness.

Gosh darn that dungeons vault guy is super nice, and stnads by his gear. hes too cool its annoying!!!

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Ken could learn from the Indian he acquired "bay 11" from.

abe supercro said:

No, not many people can talk as much as you dvg.

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So in your opinion, an honest person, who wants to stand up for his company shouldn't take a minute of his day and answer some very direct, important questions?
I would think anyone with a good name behind them, would be able to answer anything directed at them. I don't know, sort of like I did??

Abe, you dont know the numbers, or what any of the agreement was, and you're gonna put your opinion out there and capitalize my sentences for what? I ADMITTED to selling some seeds on the side... I MADE THEM, I harvested them, I did everything. Whether the third party gave me money or not, he got paid back. Ken too. Youre obviously great with math. Can you tell me what 1,920 x $50 is please? Once you have your answer, divide it by two. Those guys kept all that. Okay? So I would say that between the splitting of funds at the cups, and that fat lump sum, those two were taken care of. They couldn't and wouldn't have done it without me.

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So in your opinion, an honest person, who wants to stand up for his company shouldn't take a minute of his day and answer some very direct, important questions?
I would think anyone with a good name behind them, would be able to answer anything directed at them. I don't know, sort of like I did??

Abe, you dont know the numbers, or what any of the agreement was, and you're gonna put your opinion out there and capitalize my sentences for what? I ADMITTED to selling some seeds on the side... I MADE THEM, I harvested them, I did everything. Whether the third party gave me money or not, he got paid back. Ken too. Youre obviously great with math. Can you tell me what 1,920 x $50 is please? Once you have your answer, divide it by two. Those guys kept all that. Okay? So I would say that between the splitting of funds at the cups, and that fat lump sum, those two were taken care of. They couldn't and wouldn't have done it without me.

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why are you talking to him? thought you are above all that now? who cares move on! you are at the crossroads...

I just want to say that I appreciate both parties coming in here to tell their side of the story. What we all know so far is that Ken is great at telling stories, from what we know about DVG (Eric according to the rep) we got ourselves a motorcycle gangster up in this bitch.

Give me like 3 months and another crown and King Arthur will come back to town.

Abe likes to harass folks it is in his nature, I like to question folks because it helps me to distinguish the truth between the lies.

That is why half the time I am not welcome around here. Anyone who has gone through these 50 pages can see ups and downs, HOWEVER, we see the same story from DVG. At least he didn't get his famous strain from some indian who has 0 name. I mean your fuckin tellin me one of my relatives or ancestors gave you a plant but you don't even know their name... what a piece of shit for using my ancestry to further your agenda.

Then you got DVG sharing pics, stories, giving anyone the information they ask and for some reason it seems to come together like a cohesive non fiction.

For fucks sake Eric (if that is your name, if it isn't I won't be a dick and continue calling u that) I want to hear some stories about how you extracted the seeds to american pie from the vagina of a trumpet player and then you too can grow into some huge success who just pretends nothing ever bad happens from his / her products.

Look at the NW GDP rep that was posting last year, they never do anything wrong... except let their reps loose lol.

Time to 38% this bitch.

Dungeons_Vault said:

Ill just sit here and watch you grow them out. Wish there was a way I could send admin seeds to hand out to everyone. I stand by my work. I have been absent on here before when asked questions, but once I remembered to come back and check the thread, I responded.

Where's Ken, cough cough, I mean his minions? They came back to say very very little, talk shit on me, then leave again. I'm sure they have read what I posted by now, dont you? Is it odd they can't come up with an answer or a legitimate response?

I'll leave it there. You guys all know in your heart what is right. I stand behind anything I produce and would love to see more of you growing out my gear. Wish I wouldn't have had such a mouth, but when you've been picked on, bullied, and beaten so much, you tend to have a hot temper. For that, I am sorry.
@Bob Zmuda @Velvet Elvis@Amos Otis @greenghost420 @genuity

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Lets work on getting new customers, not arguing. I asked a question bout the grandpa breath 2 wks ago but never got a response? All kinds of responses to the ppl talking the drama though. I try to find strain info online, leads me to a forum, all the forums are arguments, lol gotta love it. So ya if u have 30sec sometime feel free to answer my strain question.

jonny finkfinder said:

Lets work on getting new customers, not arguing. I asked a question bout the grandpa breath 2 wks ago but never got a response? All kinds of responses to the ppl talking the drama though. I try to find strain info online, leads me to a forum, all the forums are arguments, lol gotta love it. So ya if u have 30sec sometime feel free to answer my strain question.

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Have you ever been in the room with a small group of folks from the industry? It usually goes the same way unless you have similar views and kiss each others dicks. Everyone thinks they got the hot shit and if you aren't riding the bandwagon they don't want nothin to do with ya lol.

jonny finkfinder said:

Lets work on getting new customers, not arguing. I asked a question bout the grandpa breath 2 wks ago but never got a response? All kinds of responses to the ppl talking the drama though. I try to find strain info online, leads me to a forum, all the forums are arguments, lol gotta love it. So ya if u have 30sec sometime feel free to answer my strain question.

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I am very, very sorry. I saw and read your question a couple times, and while paying attention to the shit that doesnt matter one bit, I proceed to respond to that garbage and leave you, a supporter with nothing.
I apologize!!!
So, you got the GBF2. The F1's displayed mostly uniform growth from seed. There was a OGKB leaf look a like that did alright, but that really wasn't the one that shined. The Tahoe x GDP male I used was a fucking stud to say the least. Everything it touched turned the trichome level up, and it took away the weird growth OGKB shows. So I was seeing normal growth characteristics, not a lot of mutant growth, and still getting such a nasty funk from the plants it was crazy. I selected a taller pheno, that had longer internodal spacing similar to an OG, but maintained it's upward growth without support like most OG's. The male was a beast too. Showed trichomes in flower, had solid, foot long male colas and produced so much pollen it was insane.
What we're seeing in the F2's is just more of what I described above. You'll see some fat leafs that I call "elephant ears" and those ones tend to be awesome plants. There's mostly normal growth showing, but the smell dank. There is cookie dominance in some of the phenos, but I noticed there's just some rank phenos that I like the smell of better.