Keep It In Your Pants Herman!

MuyLocoNC said:

I would (and have many times) argued that is EXACTLY what he was. Spending, prescription drug plan, TARP and amnesty... yeah, that's an easy argument to make.

Your little partisan hackery claims are starting to look pathetic. How is it partisan when it's clearly directed at BOTH PARTIES? Explain that genius.

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name any other progressive who is for privatizing SS.

i'll be here waiting.

deprave said:

Exactly UB....Progressive mindset behind the spending? ...LOL? Its these same policies we have had for decades ...its not just "progressives", we have had 3 decades of this and republicans and democrats are each just as guilty.

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WOW, that's all I can say. Your agreeing with me, making the EXACT SAME POINT I MADE as you agree with UB who is also making my exact same point, while he acts like I said something I didnt. The Progressive agenda and mindset in this country has influenced policies for far longer than 3 decades, closer to 9. And where the flying hell did I ever say that progressives were reserved to just one party? You both made that assumption without ANY evidence to that fact. There are just as many scumbag progressives in the Republican party as there are in the Democrat Party, that's one of the reasons why they will never let Ron Paul get the nomination.

Maybe if you didn't make such staggeringly stupid assumptions and actually read my posts, we could actually have a discussion.

MuyLocoNC said:

WOW, that's all I can say. Your agreeing with me, making the EXACT SAME POINT I MADE as you agree with UB who is also making my exact same point, while he acts like I said something I didnt. The Progressive agenda and mindset in this country has influenced policies for far longer than 3 decades, closer to 9. And where the flying hell did I ever say that progressives were reserved to just one party? You both made that assumption without ANY evidence to that fact. There are just as many scumbag progressives in the Republican party as there are in the Democrat Party, that's one of the reasons why they will never let Ron Paul get the nomination.

Maybe if you didn't make such staggeringly stupid assumptions and actually read my posts, we could actually have a discussion.

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blah blah blah.

your almost theocratic devotion to 'conservatism' will 'conservatize' us right into modern feudalism, where elective government is rendered useless, and you only count if you have a lot of money.

FUCK THAT.

redivider said:

blah blah blah.

your almost theocratic devotion to 'conservatism' will 'conservatize' us right into modern feudalism, where elective government is rendered useless, and you only count if you have a lot of money.

FUCK THAT.

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Way to stay on topic. So using the exact same logic, your theocratic devotion to "liberalism" will "liberlize" us right into bankruptcy and revolution, where the non-elective government is all powerful, and you only count if you have the right connections.

FUCK THAT.

UncleBuck said:

name any other progressive who is for privatizing SS.

i'll be here waiting.

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Wait no longer. I won't even bother to point out you don't have to be a Progressive on every topic to be a Progressive, just like you don't have to be a Conservative on every topic to be a Conservative. Saying that shows how much of a partisan hack my accuser is. Plenty of Independents agree with either party on a number of topics, I'm living proof as are many of my acquaintances and friends.

Tim Penny, former Democratic member of Congress from Minnesota
Robert Shapiro, vice president of the Progressive Policy Institute
Sam Beard, president of the National Development Council

i try to stick t o the issues. i happen to agree with plenty of points of view. you have moved so far to the right, you admitted that even conservatives are too liberal for you.... spit the kool aid out before you ruin our country.

'some people' which quickly look for the partisan spin on an issue before reaching a conclusion are not using foresight.

'too much government' this 'too much government' that.... instead of, this is the problem, let's see private sector work WITH government to find a solution....

Again, I just can't accept that conclusion. I couldn't be further from the Right's position on almost EVERY social issue, almost every self described liberal would agree with my positions on abortion, same sex marriages, drug legalization, religion etc, etc...

I also don't agree I'm too far to the right on fiscal policies either. Asking for spending to go back to 2001 levels would not ruin the country. Now asking to unwind 80 years of "Progressive" legislation I'm sure sounds out there. I know it isn't going to happen, but it doesn't change my belief that it would be the best thing we could ever do to secure this country's financial future. I also didn't arrive at this position from listening to Hannity, Limbaugh or any of the other partisan hacks, I certainly have heard them say it, but the people and places I go to for information is quite broad. I've listened to both sides, countless times, and have made my conclusions. I'm sorry they don't jibe with yours, but calling me a partisan hack is just untrue. It's not the same ballpark, it's not even the same fucking sport.

you know how you keep this country financially sound? have people here and abroad keeping their belief that the monetary currency we ALL need to use is the US dollar. that keeps our dollar strong.

the best thing we could do to secure this country's financial future is to get the money flowing again.

trickle down economics is a joke. by definition, capitalism operates by trying to funnel money up. let companies expand uncontrollably and you have what was once an investment bank running infrastructure projects and controlling enough aluminum to threaten global supply (cough cough goldman sachs).....

you cannot let private profit trump the interests of the general population. when you do you get manufactured crises like the US debt 'non issue' and the clusterfuck in europe.

deprave said:

Exactly UB....Progressive mindset behind the spending? ...LOL? Its these same policies we have had for decades ...its not just "progressives", we have had 3 decades of this and republicans and democrats are each just as guilty.

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What leads you to believe that our federal government spends an excessive amount of money? Do you have other examples of major economic powers that spend less money than our government? Do you believe those countries have a better quality of live than America?

redivider said:

blah blah blah.

your almost theocratic devotion to 'conservatism' will 'conservatize' us right into modern feudalism, where elective government is rendered useless, and you only count if you have a lot of money.

FUCK THAT.

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Feudalism is EXACTLY where we are headed if we allow this partnership between corporations and government to continue. We get capitalism when the want to fuck us all over and socialism when the screw up. Either way they win and we lose. It's all designed to keep the rich rich and the rest of us so poor we can't fight back.

When I screw up, I don't get a bailout. How about you? Why is socialism good enough for Wall St bankers but when the 99% are getting foreclosed on it's time for capitalism?

Dan Kone said:

What leads you to believe that our federal government spends an excessive amount of money? Do you have other examples of major economic powers that spend less money than our government? Do you believe those countries have a better quality of live than America?

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and why do you insert those thoughts into my writing? How do you draw that from what was written? You seem to jump on the partisan bandwagon also.

I wouldn't say I believe either necessarily. I think the better word is waste as opposed to spending, If I wanted to exaggerate to one extreme then I would use the word 'cons'.