Keep a male in the veg room? Can I?

Hey all, here's a question for you. I would like to keep a male alive and was wondering if I can sex it in the bud room (of course) and once I have found the male can I reveg it in the veg room and keep it alive? Is the a chance I will have polline drop on my vegging plant that will transfer to the flower chamber? I'm thinking you can't but no harm in asking.

Thanks

i wudnt lol

it can not pollenate a vegging plant but can lay dorment on plant till flower cycle and then cause you sum problems

if you try this might want to blast wit water a few timees before entry

gluck

if you try it you gona need it

Yes and no.

It's been my experience that once a male starts flowering there is no re veg. It keeps right on no matter the light cycle.

But you can keep one in veg, I'm doing it now. The plant really fooled me, I thought it was female and took clones and kept one. Not sure why, I've already used it for breeding, but I've never seen a male look so much like a female. Tight internodes, bushy. Took 2 weeks of 12/12 to show and I was amazed when it did. I can usually spot males in veg just from the growth habit.

The clone has been under 18/6 for a bit over 4 months now.

Wet

Wetdog said:

Yes and no.

It's been my experience that once a male starts flowering there is no re veg. It keeps right on no matter the light cycle.

But you can keep one in veg, I'm doing it now. The plant really fooled me, I thought it was female and took clones and kept one. Not sure why, I've already used it for breeding, but I've never seen a male look so much like a female. Tight internodes, bushy. Took 2 weeks of 12/12 to show and I was amazed when it did. I can usually spot males in veg just from the growth habit.

The clone has been under 18/6 for a bit over 4 months now.

Wet

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Yeah I gave up on that "guessing in veg" thing awhile back. I have seen some I would have sworn would be female be male, and vice versa.

From experience... A plant in veg can be polinated, and produce a seed. It happened on one of my first grows. It was a mother room, just to supply clones for outdoors. i missed one male plant and it let out a lot of polen from its many preflowers. The preflowers on at least one of the females (it's been years) produced seed. I took cutting from many plants and did not label. So I was not sure if any of the successful outdoor clones came from the seeded mum or not.

The thing is, pistils need to be individually polinated to produce seed. It is not like the plant receives pollen in one area and then makes seeds all over until the end of its life. So, it's not devastating to a female plant in veg like it is in flower.

A male in veg does release some polen from its preflowers. Just like a female produces preflowers, which are calyx, just not in the clusters that make a tight bud, or a cluster of pollen sacks releasing a lot of pollen.

Maybe some of the above posters are speaking in theory? Rather than from experience?

It is possible that the genetics I had were not the greatest and causing unusual things to happen.

Yes you can safely keep a male plant in your veg room without pollinating any plants...just give the plants a good shower before they flower...

HeartlandHank said:

From experience... A plant in veg can be polinated, and produce a seed. It happened on one of my first grows. It was a mother room, just to supply clones for outdoors. i missed one male plant and it let out a lot of polen from its many preflowers. The preflowers on at least one of the females (it's been years) produced seed.

A male in veg does release some polen from its preflowers. Just like a female produces preflowers, which are calyx, just not in the clusters that make a tight bud, or a cluster of pollen sacks releasing a lot of pollen.

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Very true. I do exactly the same thing for small amounts of seeds for breeding, use clones with a good amount of pre flowers. The seeds will also develop under 18/6 veg lighting as I found out the first time. Left 1/2 the clones outside and brought the other 1/2 in. Two experiments in one, to see if you could pollinate pre flowers and if seeds would develop under 18/6 lighting. Both were a big yes.

The clones are from a strain I've been running for 3 years or so. I let my kid do the seeds for the males since he's 4 for 4 getting males from seeds.

Can't say much about male pre flowers. Once they start to show male growth habits they are moved outside to flower. Females are killed. Clones are moved outside for a few days when the males start dropping pollen, then brought back inside.

I can work in 2 seed crops/year. One in early Spring and one in late summer. Will be starting seeds for the F3 crop in a week or so.

@HH Trust me, except for a few posters who you can easily pick out, there is WAY more theory than experience being posted.

Wet

I keep males in the veg tent with my up and coming clones, haven't had one get pollinated yet, but perhaps it could happen...I have a couple of strains that send out a lot of preflowers, but still no pollination going on in veg...

I say you take clones of al plants and only keep the male clone from veg. I say dont take a male that has ever produced pollen and put in a veg room. Its smarter to take the same genetics but never flowered or made pollen sacks

missnu said:

I keep males in the veg tent with my up and coming clones, haven't had one get pollinated yet, but perhaps it could happen...I have a couple of strains that send out a lot of preflowers, but still no pollination going on in veg...

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The only male I have in veg is a clone. I thought it was a female. Never showed pre flowers and didn't pop balls till a couple weeks outside last Sept. Really an outstanding male, but I don't know why I'm keeping it. It was bred 2 cycles ago.

But, pre flowers can get pollinated. Seems to make better seeds than buds, but seed plants were never grown for the bud development, just seeds, so I'm not going to make a big case about that.

Wet

even if it does produce some preflowers and pollinates the female's preflowers and gives you a few seeds, is that such a bad thing? as long as your flower room is sealed from you veg could there really be much of a problem?

If you have 2 or 3 different strain mothers in there you could get some interesting crosses for doing fuck all, IF I'm correct but I'm prolly wrong...

jonro said:

even if it does produce some preflowers and pollinates the female's preflowers and gives you a few seeds, is that such a bad thing? as long as your flower room is sealed from you veg could there really be much of a problem?

If you have 2 or 3 different strain mothers in there you could get some interesting crosses for doing fuck all, IF I'm correct but I'm prolly wrong...

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Your plant will not have as much resin seeded as it would unseeded. It picks up resin production unseeded in late flower because it's desperately trying to catch pollen and thinks time is running out.

Olive Drab Green said:

Your plant will not have as much resin seeded as it would unseeded. It picks up resin production unseeded in late flower because it's desperately trying to catch pollen and thinks time is running out.

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I think i wasn't clear enough, i meant keeping him in the VEG tent/room not the bloom, and letting his pre's pollinate her pre's, then washing her down before moving to bloom, can it hurt?

Also once a male does go into 12/12 do they eventually die if not reveged like females?

matt7835706 said:

Hey all, here's a question for you. I would like to keep a male alive and was wondering if I can sex it in the bud room (of course) and once I have found the male can I reveg it in the veg room and keep it alive? Is the a chance I will have polline drop on my vegging plant that will transfer to the flower chamber? I'm thinking you can't but no harm in asking.

Thanks

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Clone it and try it. I've never bothered to try a re-veg but I can't see it as males typically finish within 30 days of the flip to 12/12. I just clone the one's I want to keep and lately I've had so many strains/phenos and males that I'm just super-cropping them in the party cups and re-cloning to keep them going but save some space/medium and work.