Kamloops Judge Rules Searching Cops Didn't Have To Driver If He Had A Permit

WHATFG

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Canada - A B.C. judge has rejected an argument that Mounties should have asked a driver for a medical-marijuana permit before searching his van and arresting him. Cory Eld was stopped at the roadside in Barriere, about 60 kilometres north of Kamloops, in November 2012. The RCMP officer who went to Eld’s window to question him testified that he smelled a strong odour of unburned pot and saw a tarp stretched over the entire length of the van’s cargo area. Mounties found 73 marijuana plants inside, and Eld was later charged with possession of marijuana.

Defence lawyer John Conroy argued the search was illegal and that his client’s constitutional rights were breached. He said the officer who smelled marijuana neglected to ask Eld if he had a licence to possess marijuana through Health Canada — something that may have explained the smell. “It’s not difficult for the officer to say, ‘Do you have a permit?’ ” he said at a hearing in February. “You don’t have grounds to believe he’s committing an offence until you know he doesn’t have a permit.”

However, provincial court Judge Chris Cleaveley ruled the arrest was legal. “I do not believe that the police officers needed to determine whether Mr. Eld had a marijuana licence before arresting him,” Cleaveley said in his ruling. He said Mounties’ suspicion about pot under the tarp is “somewhat inconsistent with Mr. Eld being in lawful possession.” Cleaveley also cited a B.C. Supreme Court decision that police are not required to rule out other possible explanations for the smell of marijuana. Eld is scheduled to be sentenced at a later date.
 

bigmanc

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WHAT!? are you kidding me? A valid HC licensed patient arrested for not saying he has a license at the point of arrest? Even in Ontario if you forget your drivers license you have 48hrs to walk into a station with your drivers license and your all squared off with them...wow that is such a load of bullshit. Might aswell go arrest all the elderly who keep there oxys and morphine in a blister pack, great job judge you sure got your head on straight...asshole.
 

oddish

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I'm 95% sure you no longer have 48 hours to produce a driver's license - if anything that's a courtesy. I know 2 people in the last year who got a ticket for not producing a license and there was no time period alloted at all.

That said, are you actually permitted to transport 73 marijuana plants under the MMAR?
 

Red1966

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WHAT!? are you kidding me? A valid HC licensed patient arrested for not saying he has a license at the point of arrest? Even in Ontario if you forget your drivers license you have 48hrs to walk into a station with your drivers license and your all squared off with them...wow that is such a load of bullshit. Might aswell go arrest all the elderly who keep there oxys and morphine in a blister pack, great job judge you sure got your head on straight...asshole.
We have no indication he was a licensed patient. Apparently he wasn't, because if he had a license, the charge would have been dropped.
 

bigmanc

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Odd, i wonder if conroy would have defended him if he wasnt licensed. For what it matters, my license says 73plants for 15g/day witch is fairly common? same plant count his gentleman had.
 

The Hippy

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I'm 95% sure you no longer have 48 hours to produce a driver's license - if anything that's a courtesy. I know 2 people in the last year who got a ticket for not producing a license and there was no time period alloted at all.

That said, are you actually permitted to transport 73 marijuana plants under the MMAR?
I got a ticket for that 7 years ago...no time offered to square it for me...I sucked wind and tooker up the arse......farkin hurt too. $140 some ott bucks later I was healed
 

VIANARCHRIS

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Odd, i wonder if conroy would have defended him if he wasnt licensed. For what it matters, my license says 73plants for 15g/day witch is fairly common? same plant count his gentleman had.
My license is for 50 plants, but that is restricted to the address listed on the form. I don't think there is a provision for transporting them.
 

Agracan

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The defendant was not licensed. The defense line was that the cops did not know that, and they should have asked the defendant if he was, prior to searching his car. Without asking and going by just smell they did not have sufficient probable cause, because asking would have established that (he could have been licensed and that would be an excuse for the smell thus eliminated the reason for the search). It was a procedural technicality that the defense was arguing. Like getting off because you didn't get your rights read to you kind of a thing.
 

PeaceTrees

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We have no indication he was a licensed patient. Apparently he wasn't, because if he had a license, the charge would have been dropped.
Yep, exactly how have you guys concluded he had a license? it doesn't say it anywhere, just coz Conroy commented on this doesn't mean the dude is licensed. Why would he still be in trouble if he had a license lol I don't think this country is THAT dumb.
 
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