Jwh 018, synthetic weed

Dandilion Patch

Dandilion Patch

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Hey guys, while im growing my bud I wouldnt mind taking some 018. I used to buy it awhile back before it got banned and loved it. Havent been able to find anyone who sells any research chems anymore. Does anyone have a reputable seller? Has anyone bought some since the blanket ban? I would highly appreciate it guys, thanks!!!
 
Mookjong

Mookjong

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Without knowing what state your in, it's hard to help. In my city it's even more prevalent than ever. Up the street I can choose from over 20 brands. It know it's all over Maryland and a few other states I've been to recently. My state has it on every corner..
 
Dandilion Patch

Dandilion Patch

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are there any states nearby that I could go to and pick some up. Im willing to go on a road trip to pick some up. Sounds good actually.
 
Skuxx

Skuxx

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I've been addicted to just about every substance the average joe can think of.... plus some that they can't.... and the synthetic cannabinoids were my worst addiction to date... and hopefully the worst I experience. The withdrawals would start within 20-30 minutes after the last dose. I'm not talking minor w/d... I mean full blown sweating your balls off felling crazy as fuck withdrawal. I've typed out my experience with this shit over 100 times at least.... so i'm just going to leave it shot this time. don't even try this drug. go shoot up some meth or heroin instead. It's way safer. I'm dead serious.

I don't really want you to shoot up meth or heroin.... but I really do mean that this JWH shit is worse than doing that. TRUST ME.

And i always hate people preaching shit like I just did to people... but these substances were a whole different ballgame. Just imagine going into full blown withdrawal every 30 minutes of your life.... no matter where you go.... you have to have spice.... have to be somewhere you can smoke it.... shit I would smoke it anywhere.... I'd just go into a bathroom and take 3-4 big hits and hold them in. JUST to feel okay for another 20 minutes.

I much prefered any other addiction over this. all addiction sucks though

oh yeah... and you won't be able to get high from weed for about 2 weeks after you quit synthetics. weed will just help with about 80% of the withdrawal. the other 20% can be dealt with by other means.
 
Trolling

Trolling

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It feels nice for the first week, then the dependence and health problems start to creep up on you. After.the first week tho, it pretty much turns you into a zombie like state.
 
K

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I bought a quantity of pure powder before it was outlawed. I can't say I'm unhapy that it was outlawed. Shit ain't weed. Feels like weed but it differs in some fundamental ways.

"Compared to THC, which is a partial agonist at CB[SUB]1[/SUB] receptors, JWH-018 (and many of its analogues) are full agonists. THC has been shown to inhibit GABA receptor neurotransmission in the brain via several pathways.[SUP][18][/SUP][SUP][19][/SUP] JWH-018 may cause intense anxiety, agitation, and, in rare cases (generally with non-regular JWH users), has been assumed to have been the cause of seizures and convulsions by inhibiting GABA neurotransmission more effectively than THC. Cannabinoid receptor full agonists may present serious dangers to the user when used to excess.

Tolerance builds up incredibly rapidly. Fiending behavior is common. Overdose is quite unpleasant at lower levels and hell at higher.

Since it is commonly tested for now the whole reason for smoking it is gone.

The inventor of the compound basically called the people smoking it idiots, he might know something about it.


 
Skuxx

Skuxx

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Dandilion Patch said:
I disagree with your guys opinions, just dont get yourself addicted.
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I wasn't trying to put an opinion out there. Just an experience. I don't care if others use this stuff. I don't think it should be illegal. No substance should. I'm just the person that happens to get addicted to everything. I have always loved doing drugs. I stole and drank my first beer when I was 2, and passed out with a KFC chicken bucket on my head... I am the definition of addiction. The reason I posted that is because I'm not the only one... there are going to be other people that get themselves in the same situations that I have been in... and maybe one will read this beforehand, and not even try the shit. That's the point. If you are confident that you won't get hooked, then go for it and be careful. I didn't even know it was addictive when I started. I was 19-20 y/o. There wasn't a lot of info online. Then, right as I started getting hooked.... what do you know.... it started popping up everywhere online. And it was too late to turn back. I had to keep smoking it every 30 minutes. Even during "sleep". I slept with the pipe in my hand. woke up drenched in sweat.... took a few hits..... waited for my heart to stop racing... and went back to sleep.....

i'm still really fucked up in life..... so once again my experience might not always be good advice... but I like to put it out there because I can.. and people can decide for themselves.
 
thatboyis1uvakind

thatboyis1uvakind

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If anything in this world should b illegal its fake weed....look....ive been around...done it all...literally. ..and a lot of it....from $25000 20day coke binges to a rave where I consumed 18blue dolphins (x pills) and washed it down w a 10 strip of acid....I should not b alive trust me....I have never been so scared and felt so close to death as I have w a couple experiences w fake weed...it was called "barely legal" n had an asian school girl on the pack...I started calling it "I cant believe its not illegal"...I smoked it daily like weed for round 6 months for job reasons had to b clean...it took me to weird places mentally....from severe panic attacks at times to god like thoughts (I cant explain woild take to long) alien thoughts always popping in my head when I was hi on it like I thought it was takin me to another level consciencely...mentally. ..I cant explain....it had me on the floor a couple times unable to breath and w no heart beat that I could feel anyway...sweating buckets as I layed in front of a fan pouring cold water on me alone just knowing that I was gonna die right there.....I couldnt move....it was aweful......I dont know what that shit is or what it does to u but its strong...and evil
 
aknight3

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Skuxx said:
I've been addicted to just about every substance the average joe can think of.... plus some that they can't.... and the synthetic cannabinoids were my worst addiction to date... and hopefully the worst I experience. The withdrawals would start within 20-30 minutes after the last dose. I'm not talking minor w/d... I mean full blown sweating your balls off felling crazy as fuck withdrawal. I've typed out my experience with this shit over 100 times at least.... so i'm just going to leave it shot this time. don't even try this drug. go shoot up some meth or heroin instead. It's way safer. I'm dead serious.

I don't really want you to shoot up meth or heroin.... but I really do mean that this JWH shit is worse than doing that. TRUST ME.

And i always hate people preaching shit like I just did to people... but these substances were a whole different ballgame. Just imagine going into full blown withdrawal every 30 minutes of your life.... no matter where you go.... you have to have spice.... have to be somewhere you can smoke it.... shit I would smoke it anywhere.... I'd just go into a bathroom and take 3-4 big hits and hold them in. JUST to feel okay for another 20 minutes.

I much prefered any other addiction over this. all addiction sucks though

oh yeah... and you won't be able to get high from weed for about 2 weeks after you quit synthetics. weed will just help with about 80% of the withdrawal. the other 20% can be dealt with by other means.
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i had the same experience with syn. marijuana, i would get extremly sick if i didnt smoke spice every cpl hrs, i would get sick about 4 hrs without it, the wd didnt last to long though, a day or two
 
Mookjong

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Well I know for a fact maryland has lots of it, if you make to Havre De Grace.Take pulaksi hwy 40 east, It's the first gas station on the left past dunkin donuts Its open 24 hours. Ohio sounds pretty far away from there but if you go ask for "fruity pebbles". It's $20 for 3 grams.

The stuff going around is nothing like jwh-018, it's way better. No spins or sickness feeling like the k2 blends. BUT, the withdraws are no joke. I wouldn't say they're are comparable to meth as some say, but they are definitely strong itchy cravings. Let's just say you'll scrape every bit of resin out your bowl. Just know that no weed on the planet can compare to the strength of this stuff man.

This gas station I go to to pick up mine always has a line of people at all hours of the day buying nothing but these blends. I'll probably go tomorrow to get some and I'll take a picture. Just so you can understand what these people are trying to tell you. The withdraws are strong but they go away like aknight said in about a day or two. I don't experience any sickness though just the want to smoke more. Weed just wont be the same, you'll still be able to get high from it, but you'll chasing a different high now. Skuux said 2 weeks, for me my appreciation for pot is pretty much gone for good. I still like the epic strains ofc but typical "dro" just doesn't cut it anymore. It's been that way for a about a year now and I only use about 7 grams a month. But where I am at, it's even stronger and there are 25 different choices and strengths.

I personally love the stuff. Going to the gas station to pick up a bag is pretty fucking sweet. I'm not a casual weed smoker, I am full blown psychonaut so I feel that my advice could be dangerous. Tell me you understand that you were warned, I'll help you out. I'm pretty sure every state in america has a place that sells it. It will never end. Just like steroids, they'll just change one tiny thing in the chemistry and viola its no longer illegal. I have recently driven through about 12 states for business, and never had a problem finding it.

Look for arab owned phillips or kicks 66 or BPs, ask "can i see the board" or " do you carry any novelties" make sure there isn't a line behind you...Some places have it out in the open.. It's pretty much every where. Dont bother with truck stops, they have plain clothed DOT officers that you don't want anything to do with. Kansas City Mo, has it EVERYWHERE... I'd didn't even try to find it and found it.
 
thatboyis1uvakind

thatboyis1uvakind

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Mookjong said:
Well I know for a fact maryland has lots of it, if you make to Havre De Grace.Take pulaksi hwy 40 east, It's the first gas station on the left past dunkin donuts Its open 24 hours. Ohio sounds pretty far away from there but if you go ask for "fruity pebbles". It's $20 for 3 grams.

The stuff going around is nothing like jwh-018, it's way better. No spins or sickness feeling like the k2 blends. BUT, the withdraws are no joke. I wouldn't say they're are comparable to meth as some say, but they are definitely strong itchy cravings. Let's just say you'll scrape every bit of resin out your bowl. Just know that no weed on the planet can compare to the strength of this stuff man.

This gas station I go to to pick up mine always has a line of people at all hours of the day buying nothing but these blends. I'll probably go tomorrow to get some and I'll take a picture. Just so you can understand what these people are trying to tell you. The withdraws are strong but they go away like aknight said in about a day or two. I don't experience any sickness though just the want to smoke more. Weed just wont be the same, you'll still be able to get high from it, but you'll chasing a different high now. Skuux said 2 weeks, for me my appreciation for pot is pretty much gone for good. I still like the epic strains ofc but typical "dro" just doesn't cut it anymore. It's been that way for a about a year now and I only use about 7 grams a month. But where I am at, it's even stronger and there are 25 different choices and strengths.

I personally love the stuff. Going to the gas station to pick up a bag is pretty fucking sweet. I'm not a casual weed smoker, I am full blown psychonaut so I feel that my advice could be dangerous. Tell me you understand that you were warned, I'll help you out. I'm pretty sure every state in america has a place that sells it. It will never end. Just like steroids, they'll just change one tiny thing in the chemistry and viola its no longer illegal. I have recently driven through about 12 states for business, and never had a problem finding it.

Look for arab owned phillips or kicks 66 or BPs, ask "can i see the board" or " do you carry any novelties" make sure there isn't a line behind you...Some places have it out in the open.. It's pretty much every where. Dont bother with truck stops, they have plain clothed DOT officers that you don't want anything to do with. Kansas City Mo, has it EVERYWHERE... I'd didn't even try to find it and found it.
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I had an experince smoking it driving thru the mountains....I kinda lost myself in it as I always did after bout 3big hits...and all of a sudden it was kike I was up...above the earth...looking down and seeing myself drive thru these mountains...and realizing how small I was....compared to the trees....then to the mountains...then how small the mountains were in comparison to everything...tiny me driving around in this tiny mountain range on this tiny planet....and compared to the infinity that surrounds us....how meaningless I am...these mountains are...this planet is....in the big scheme of things....its like I was viewing myself...earth...existence...from "gods"(whatever ur god may be) point of view....and I wasnt trying to see things like this it was just happening....and it was so real and so powerful and impactful I felt scared...guilty almost...like should I b having these thoughts or should I be able to to things this way...am I supposed too......it was crazy.......if u smoke that shit long enuf man its gonna fuck u up
 
Mookjong

Mookjong

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thatboyis1uvakind said:
I had an experince smoking it driving thru the mountains....I kinda lost myself in it as I always did after bout 3big hits...and all of a sudden it was kike I was up...above the earth...looking down and seeing myself drive thru these mountains...and realizing how small I was....compared to the trees....then to the mountains...then how small the mountains were in comparison to everything...tiny me driving around in this tiny mountain range on this tiny planet....and compared to the infinity that surrounds us....how meaningless I am...these mountains are...this planet is....in the big scheme of things....its like I was viewing myself...earth...existence...from "gods"(whatever ur god may be) point of view....and I wasnt trying to see things like this it was just happening....and it was so real and so powerful and impactful I felt scared...guilty almost...like should I b having these thoughts or should I be able to to things this way...am I supposed too......it was crazy.......if u smoke that shit long enuf man its gonna fuck u up
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This is the very reason I keep coming back! Those moments of introspection are truly rewarding. I have some of the clearest thoughts and unique ideas on the stuff. I understand your concern regarding "it fucking me up". I have learned to respect all chemicals through various mistakes in life. I don't roll up blunts of the stuff nor do tweak out on it. Not to say I haven't but like I said, I've learned from my mistakes.

See the reason I defend it (to a point) is that I see most people making the mistake of treating it like weed. Just like anything else too much is always bad. Sadly the way the laws are written, the producers can't put any kind dosage recommendations on the packaging.

Mark my words, these "spice" blends are here to stay for very long time. The legalization of marijuana will be nationwide before these blends go "extinct". Sure we may here a new blanket law that is supposed ban these substances, the next day something new will be available. When you boil things down a bit, you'll see how difficult it is to propose a law could ban these types of substances without effecting other major freedoms. Everything in life is tied to each other in one way or another. Boil things down even further and a conspiracy may come to light. But that's a whole other thread.
 
Dandilion Patch

Dandilion Patch

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You guys sound ridiculous, and im not trying to be offensive. But seriously you guys act like this shit is like crack or heroin. I have used various research chemicals from 018 to 081 to 250 to URI-100 to some rca's. I have taken them since they began to surface like 10 years ago. I have experience with them and none of which are related to your guys' stories. It may be because I use it responsibly and dissolve it in everclear. I only ever would use 1 or 2 ml's of everclear and I was stoned (identical to weed) for like 6 hours. Never did I feel anxious, guilty, paranoid, crazy, addicted or anything. It was identical to marijuana besides the fact that I didnt have to smoke it. I would mix 2 mL's in my can of coke and everything was great. Never thought the chemicals were actually addicting contrary to all of your statements. I have felt more addicted to chewing tobacco and cigs then this, and I quit those years ago. But everyone has there own opinions and experiences.
 
Mookjong

Mookjong

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Dandilion Patch said:
You guys sound ridiculous, and im not trying to be offensive. But seriously you guys act like this shit is like crack or heroin. I have used various research chemicals from 018 to 081 to 250 to URI-100 to some rca's. I have taken them since they began to surface like 10 years ago. I have experience with them and none of which are related to your guys' stories. It may be because I use it responsibly and dissolve it in everclear. I only ever would use 1 or 2 ml's of everclear and I was stoned (identical to weed) for like 6 hours. Never did I feel anxious, guilty, paranoid, crazy, addicted or anything. It was identical to marijuana besides the fact that I didnt have to smoke it. I would mix 2 mL's in my can of coke and everything was great. Never thought the chemicals were actually addicting contrary to all of your statements. I have felt more addicted to chewing tobacco and cigs then this, and I quit those years ago. But everyone has there own opinions and experiences.
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Your comparing apples to oranges... This isn't anything like the jwh- am- uri- series that where available in the past, this is new school shit.
 
Dandilion Patch

Dandilion Patch

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So i guess this "new stuff" isnt anything like those? In that case I probably dont want it. I was looking for a place that had those though... Where could I get ahold of 018? Any ideas?
 
rory420420

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Mook..that's hilarious,the directions you gave is like 3 mins from my grandparents house!lol..dandelion..different stuff affects different people differently..so you had great times and they didn't..if you were new you would want experiences shared so you could make an informed ddecision by yourself..I see the jwh series on research chem websites,lots won't send to the u.s.,but maybe you couldfind a vendor willing..I seen it all over in v.a. but then it vanished after a ban..never messed with it myself,I have too much stickus of the ickus at my disposal.. :-)
 
sdf

sdf

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My city use to have it on every corner, but they went on a city wide sting and took it from every store so now most places are scared to sell it

There is only 2 stores now that sell it and they have a big sign saying its legal post-ban "Pot-pourie"
Almost every teen, especially red necks, are smoking it.
 
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