just tried dmt

don't lightbulb it man, that's horrible, tastes like crap by the time you heated it enough to evaporate fast enough to get a hit.
I'd rather make a crackpipe if you are desperate for something efficient. (Crack is realy hard to master batting, too much or too little heat, dragging to hard or too soft etc.. and the hit is all gone, teaches real good technique at the cost of your life).

Anyway to make it take a steel parker pen or some similar guage steel pipe, you just want the front half with all fittings removed.
Get some lampcord (with braided wires not sold core), just cut 2 inches off your bedlamp and move the plug up, you'll never notice.
Pull the strands out and roll into a tight ball that is just bigger than the large opening on the pen. pour some acetone or lighter fluid on it, then flame it with a lighter till its burned clean of lubricant and fire retardant.
Stick it in the hole, push it back a millimeter or 3. Load up and light by keeping the lighter about an inch infront of the hole, while sucking the hot air off it (not the flame), be a little patient it is not instant, so wait till you start drawing harder.

ANC said:

don't lightbulb it man, that's horrible, tastes like crap by the time you heated it enough to evaporate fast enough to get a hit.
I'd rather make a crackpipe if you are desperate for something efficient. (Crack is realy hard to master batting, too much or too little heat, dragging to hard or too soft etc.. and the hit is all gone, teaches real good technique at the cost of your life).

Anyway to make it take a steel parker pen or some similar guage steel pipe, you just want the front half with all fittings removed.
Get some lampcord (with braided wires not sold core), just cut 2 inches off your bedlamp and move the plug up, you'll never notice.
Pull the strands out and roll into a tight ball that is just bigger than the large opening on the pen. pour some acetone or lighter fluid on it, then flame it with a lighter till its burned clean of lubricant and fire retardant.
Stick it in the hole, push it back a millimeter or 3. Load up and light by keeping the lighter about an inch infront of the hole, while sucking the hot air off it (not the flame), be a little patient it is not instant, so wait till you start drawing harder.

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sounds like too much trouble mate!! i tried it in the bulb, and yeah , tastes crap, i'm not expecting it to tast good! i just wanna goto space

light bulb works fine, ive had my fun in my old days with the ol' bulb style i got zinging before id even finished sucking it down, works a treat see how i go soon enough, Deeee MMMMM T rip no.3 coming soon

i know to heat it gently, as soon as i see vapour i lower the lighter, i got a decent amount fort another good trip, so i'll make sure i do it properly , don't worry!!

teaching how to smoke crack? damn thats a new low

lol no, how to smoke dmt useing a crack pipe, I mean he was going to use a meth bulb...

malignant said:

teaching how to smoke crack? damn thats a new low

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You said it kitty cat. You said it. ANC of course. Is the one. May as well learn from him now. Before he fades away. He is getting older you know.

well, all i can say people is that i had the best trip of my life last night and it lasted all of 10 minutes!! the whole room changed, and i watched my hands and skin turn in to a reptilian skin like thing, really weird, i actually saw scales moving up my arm, and saw trace blured images trailing behind my movements, making motion blur, it was really really intense, much more clear this time, the clarity was unbelievable the room seemed alive with energy, and things seem to float in the room like they were in a heat haze effect, the room looked much more crowded.. the biggest ifference i experienced visually was the XBOX 360 music visualization screen with all the special effects it was creating, it was likt it was folding out in front of my eyes, and extended into the air, it looked kinda like i was flying through space, almost like floating, i knew i was still there, but everyuthing felt soo surreal, i could feel something watching me, and my head kepot telling me to go with the flow, the more i let go with it the more i spun, the visuals were the most amazing things i have EVER seen, I felt like i was a ball of energy, at 1 point i felt i was falling forward, but i somehow had control, and bought myself back slightly, and re-aligned my perceptions... amazing. just incredible, my mrs also had her 2nd amazing experience but could not handle the screen visuals from the XBOX. i felt it amplified it by 1000 times, it felt that way anyway, i could see things in the air, like space, it was not like the real world at all. thats the only way i can explain it.

and yeah the light bulb didnt work that well i had a bong packed with a good 50mg hit aswell as a good dose in the bulb, i statrted with the bulb, and got a really good hit until i couldnt hold the bulb, i started zinging slightly, it wasnt until i picked up my packed bong lacerd with the dream drug, it was then it really hit me, as i started lighting the bong, i lost all motor skills, and nearly dropped the bong, it smoked smoothly and i didnt even notice sucking it down, as i was holding my ears began to ring and buzz furiously, i held the bong for as long as i could until my vision sissapeared and my hearing was lost to the sound of buzzing energies, and funnily enough when i was at the utmost peak, i heard this amazing loud water droplet over and over, maybe 10 times, and each time i heard the blooooop it spread all this patters of colours spinning around like a whirpool, i have no idea where the sounds came from, but it was like it was all i could hear.

best yet. had the last of it for my last good hit, and i was really glad i had that bit extra. i didnt see any beings of such, but i saw myself as a reptile creature...good enough for my 3rd time!!.. will get more soon enough.. great having some smart mates who dabble with science

sorry bout spelling errors, to get a good report out you just have to keep typing, otherwise you lose what you are thinking about

best experience yet. pity only lasts like 10 minutes, it does kinda wear you out though.....so much energy

Keep your eyes closed throughout, it will be the best 10 minute rest ever...
Open eyed it is quite high enery.

ANC said:

Keep your eyes closed throughout, it will be the best 10 minute rest ever...
Open eyed it is quite high enery.

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yeah my first i felt like i had to close my eyes, i really lost most of my vision the first time, it was different. i thought i'd try something new and hold my eyes open, with the visuals from the xbox 360 that was just soooo insane, it added to the experience in my opinion, it was hard to focus because it looked as if i had 3d goggles on or something, i could see stuff in the air, moving energy and colours, weird shit i tell you!!! the next time i get my hands on some i will have 2 bongs at the ready with a couple of really good doses, it seemed to work the best that way, as i got a real good hit in 1 toke, i think that's the key, and then try to get another in the time that you start tripping, basically as soon as you blow the first breath out! thats what i'll do next. extremely good shit. amazing!
The biggest thing to me was seeing my skin change and look like a reptile, and they shrunk, it was soo out of this world

Sounds like I'll have to do an extraction. There are just so many methods.

DaSprout said:

Sounds like I'll have to do an extraction. There are just so many methods.

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So i've heard and who's to trust something off the net?? i have no clue whatsoever and kinda like it that way!! it was a nice experience for sure, and i'm 100% glad i did it, and i'm against meth and all that shit now, i did alot of research on the spirit molecule, watched many videos, and thought to myself, if i EVER get the chence to do it, i can't knock it back knowing how hard it can be to come by....like i said mine wasn't the purest extraction, it was still quite orange, but in saying that, it still blew me away, and didnt taste bad atall laced with erb, packed in the bowl really tight, and smoked really slowly, so i try not to burn it hot, i know it could be wasting it slightly, but the bulb just couldnt give me a decnt hit, and i dont want to be 'that guy' buying a cracky pipe! yuk, in the bingle, sweet as, and i rekon 2 good hits like i had, and you sure would cross over, i literally couldnt stand, nor could i comprehend distance in front of me!

I realy thinks it ads something or unlocks something in us without which would lead empty meaningless lives never knowing the true majesty of creation and the wonders of our minds.
Just think of the amount of computers you would need to render graphics like those, now think about the fact that your brain is doing all that off a 20W processor. (Well that, or the other place/s are real).


Buts living life and never knowing you could experience that, is sad.

My question is that is the goal for this experience a "threshold", ie: would you like to simply go somewhere else and learn something (dunno what, that's for you to find), or are you using it for play (which is also a damn fine use, love this stuff)?

This stuff REALLY defines what "trip" means. But only when using certain dosages and methods of getting it into to you.

Other than that, sure, you get some interesting experiences, but they are still "you".

So before I give any further suggestions, what's your goal?

flowamasta said:

and smoked really slowly, so i try not to burn it hot,

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If you are going for threshold, you want high temp fast burn. If you are going for play, you want bits burned slowly.

And if you do your own extract, it should be so cheap that you don't care about wasting any.

well, yeah, i was going for the threshold, but only did it myself so it was hard to get a second hit going!! i was that out of it by the time i blew it out

can you have too much?? thats a damn good question if ive ever asked one!!??

flowamasta said:

well, yeah, i was going for the threshold, but only did it myself so it was hard to get a second hit going!! i was that out of it by the time i blew it out
can you have too much?? thats a damn good question if ive ever asked one!!??

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That is why I gave the double pipe preloaded advice previously. There is about 15-30 seconds of control immediately after the 1st hit. But the lack of control does not indicate you are then going for a threshold, it just means you are tripping balls at that moment.

BUT: That is also the moment you may taste/feel a threshold is one it's way. It took about a month of threshold/play/threshold/play smoking before I could predict it though.

If I was going for threshold, I would simply grab the 2nd pipe as fast as possible and light/inhale. Because I could not be sure, and there was no point not to.

NOTE: PUT THE GODDAMN PIPE DOWN. FAST.

If you are going for threshold, remember what that means. You are GONE. Do not be holding a fragile glass pipe at that moment. You can squeeze it hard enough to crack and slice through your hands. You can drop it on a hard surface and shatter it. You can drop it on a soft one and light yourself on fire. NOTHING good comes from holding the pipe, put it down as fast as you can after taking the hit!

I do not think there is the concept of overdosing on DMT. When you do enough to threshold, it is like being reborn. You arrive, and you are (well, usually), totally coherent. Just you have to be coherent in another dimension, and coherence may mean something totally different.

But you are coherent.

So what does that mean relative to DMT dose?

I seem to go from a mind blowing wasted state that is trying to understand all the is around me in the "real" world (are you sure it's real?), and then boom, wake up somewhere and the only "stonedness" is the visuals aspect. The rest of me is in active engagement of trying to figure out where I am and how the fuck I got there? The thought process are clear at that point (at least those that I can remember now), and then it becomes a trip of exploration until I "come back".

If there was an "overdose" of DMT in that process, it probably means I am not going to remember that portion of the trip. It doesn't mean anything dangerous like forgetting to breathe or freaking out and running around hurting myself, because movement under threshold is RARE. When you come back, the transition to reality might be a bit jarring though.

I've had to dodge close overhead fireworks, and DOVE between the couches and smacked my head in the couch leg. Don't be me. Have a very cuisoned environment if possible.

Looking for DMT LD50 (lethal dose) on the web does not come up with much. I doubt it is possible for us to smoke enough, no matter how big the bowl.

http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/health/psychoactives_ld50s.shtml

DMT110 mg/kg

Let's see. Assume 80KG male, so that's 80*110= 8,800mg, ie: 8.8 GRAMS of pure DMT. In a single usable dose.

heheheheheheeheheeh.

testtime said:

That is why I gave the double pipe preloaded advice previously. There is about 15-30 seconds of control immediately after the 1st hit. But the lack of control does not indicate you are then going for a threshold, it just means you are tripping balls at that moment.

BUT: That is also the moment you may taste/feel a threshold is one it's way. It took about a month of threshold/play/threshold/play smoking before I could predict it though.

If I was going for threshold, I would simply grab the 2nd pipe as fast as possible and light/inhale. Because I could not be sure, and there was no point not to.

I do not think there is the concept of overdosing on DMT. When you do enough to threshold, it is like being reborn. You arrive, and you are (well, usually), totally coherent. Just you have to be coherent in another dimension, and coherence may mean something totally different.

But you are coherent.

So what does that mean relative to DMT dose?

I seem to go from a mind blowing wasted state that is trying to understand all the is around me in the "real" world (are you sure it's real?), and then boom, wake up somewhere and the only "stonedness" is the visuals aspect. The rest of me is in active engagement of trying to figure out where I am and how the fuck I got there? The thought process are clear at that point (at least those that I can remember now), and then it becomes a trip of exploration until I "come back".

If there was an "overdose" of DMT in that process, it probably means I am not going to remember that portion of the trip. It doesn't mean anything dangerous like forgetting to breathe or freaking out and running around hurting myself, because movement under threshold is RARE. When you come back, the transition to reality might be a bit jarring though.

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thanks for that info man, very interesting, my last hit i believe i got ever soo close, because my vision completely showed me something new, with my skin changing, and the room seem to be floating, i guess i was a little baffled off the first hit, i know this now, and will be better prepared, i'm not nervous in anyway, always curious, and i found it to be a very warm, relaxing sense to be in, to hear things different and see colours and energy like i never thought possible...i will be getting more shortly, hopefully enough to have a decent play and test.....ahhhh my last time, was insane, i cant forget that, i actually felt like i was in a parallel universe, it changed my present surroundings, and turned into a magical place, with bells ringing, and almost felt like i was in nature, i remember a feeling like someone rang a huge bell next to my head and i was feeling the constant vibration running through my body like somebody humming, i could dribble on for hours, i documented it all by voice recording, alot of 'get fukd......wateva........no waaaaaaayy..nnnuuuuhhhh not possible......woooooooooowww..oooohhhhh mmyyyyyyy fukkkkkkkk

I think everyonedoesit sells pipes like these for a fiver... Best investment you'll ever make.
You can load virtualy any dose and clear it in like 3 hits with nothing left.

I think that I've also seen those at pipesguru.

ANC said:

I think everyonedoesit sells pipes like these for a fiver... Best investment you'll ever make.
You can load virtualy any dose and clear it in like 3 hits with nothing left.

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Do you put the lighter to the bottom/side of the bowl, or do you hold it above the bowl?

High torch over. DMT does not alter chemically when it "burns", at least not at the temps we do it, and no concept of wanting to slow burn it light pot.

I like a tiny sprinkle of weed under, for screen block, and a tiny sprinkle over, it ensure an even coal over the DMT.

Or, right before the final evaporation, I mix a small amount of weed which in turn makes the DMT more manageable and smokable.