Just in case you thought Israel was a nice country, just misunderstood

ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Its not about religion. Its about power and control. The people doing the fighting are being used and religion is a tool to do it. They would be better off if they stopped fighting but their leaders are the ones who would lose out then. Soo, beat the war drum, inflame the passions, train the bombers and soldiers and the leaders remain in control. To think that its just about some ideas written down a thousand or so years ago is simply stupid.
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This is true of all sides in this conflict.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
This is true of all sides in this conflict.
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True, that.

This idea that religion is the source of conflict is absurd. The same books used to justify war contain words of peace. As FOX and talk radio demonstrates almost by the hour, ignorant and angry people are predictable and easier to control. Same technique works for Trump, al-Baghdadi, Putin and Netanhayu. It worked for Hitler too.
 
Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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ttystikk said:
I refuse to believe that people could be so trapped in such a dark narrative.
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But it is the truth. Do some investigating on the start of Muslim faith. Brittanica.com is a good place to start.

Much of history is people trapped in dark narratives. Sometimes it is poverty, sometimes it is politics, and much of the time it is over religious views.
 
Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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Fogdog said:
Its not about religion. Its about power and control. The people doing the fighting are being used and religion is a tool to do it. They would be better off if they stopped fighting but their leaders are the ones who would lose out then. Soo, beat the war drum, inflame the passions, train the bombers and soldiers and the leaders remain in control. To think that its just about some ideas written down a thousand or so years ago is simply stupid.
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The leaders doing it do it because of their religion. The Muslim religion supercedes government in Arab countries.

Refuse to believe whatever you wish. If you do some research you will see that the middle east does not have separation of church and state. It is church first then state. Their church believes Jews are evil liars.
 
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oswizzle

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One thing every Israel supporter has in common.. Point fingers in every direction and blame everyone else... never take responsibility for the hostilities you've created in someone else's backyard ..

With this mentality .. your always the playing the Victim card... pathetic
 
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ChesusRice

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Flaming Pie said:
The leaders doing it do it because of their religion. The Muslim religion supercedes government in Arab countries.

Refuse to believe whatever you wish. If you do some research you will see that the middle east does not have separation of church and state. It is church first then state. Their church believes Jews are evil liars.
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Post a picture of your elbow
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Flaming Pie said:
The leaders doing it do it because of their religion. The Muslim religion supercedes government in Arab countries.

Refuse to believe whatever you wish. If you do some research you will see that the middle east does not have separation of church and state. It is church first then state. Their church believes Jews are evil liars.
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circular logic. Its not refusal to believe but the inherent errors in what you say that cause me to call you an idiot.

You know, Iraq and Iran fought each other. Both Muslim. Bangladesh freed itself from Pakistan a while back in a horrendous civil war. Both Muslim.

So tell me, did religion play a role in Europe when the city states fought each other for centuries? All were Catholic. Its pretty clear that Christianity isn't the answer to ending war.

Is atheism the answer to war?

You need simple explanations. The world is not simple.
 
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Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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Fogdog said:
circular logic. Its not refusal to believe but the inherent errors in what you say that cause me to call you an idiot.

You know, Iraq and Iran fought each other. Both Muslim. Bangladesh freed itself from Pakistan a while back in a horrendous civil war. Both Muslim.

So tell me, did religion play a role in Europe when the city states fought each other for centuries? All were Catholic. Its pretty clear that Christianity isn't the answer to ending war.

Is atheism the answer to war?

You need simple explanations. The world is not simple.
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There are different sects of Muslim and they oppose one another. Really not that hard to understand.
 
Ace Yonder

Ace Yonder

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oswizzle said:
Please read Gordon’s articles on Mossad involvement in 911 and Chris Bollyn’s book… then on to “The Controversy of Zion” the classic work on WW1/2 and Zion’s involvement by Douglas Reed. Any real book about the FED/Bank of England added and you have the picture.

Ask yourself, are you willing to give up your cushy life as an American for the truth and for freedom? The answer is our problem, OUR problem.
And this: there is no group on Earth more fearful of rabbinical power than the Ashkenazi “Jews” that is, the actionable point of the Talmud: “you respect and almost worship us or you will lose the inside word, be shunned and possibly killed.”
So it is not just none Ashkenazi who are targeted and the Ashkenazi have almost ZERO genetic relationship to ancient Hebrews – see genetic study 2012 Johns Hopkins University.

Then we have American Zionists.
Still shlepping for Jewish myths stolen from a dozen other cultures and yes to the commenter… the Old Testament and certainly the Talmud are about race Supremacy, hear that Jonas?

Sociopathic narcissists who are in fact a criminal group whose group self delusion would be hilarious except for their ethic of lethal mass murder for their “god” goals.
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What are you gonna recommend next? A little David Irving, some Robert Faurrison, Ernst Zundel, and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad? Should I get the real facts from Infowars? The fact that you have absolutely no ability to differentiate between unfounded conspiracy theories and genuine scholarship is extremely troubling, and represents irrefutable proof of the true depths of your ignorance.
 
Commycharb

Commycharb

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Attention Isrealies zionists and jews as a whole to a lesser extent. Isreal is evil. They are murdering bullies who try to play the victim card all the time. Problem is, you don't seem to realize, that we the rest of earth think your actions are intolerable and soon we will actually have to do something about it. Peace talks wont be on the table @ that point. You want a war ... well your going to get it.
 
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