C. Nesbitt
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Adore my baby girl and so proud of how she has accepted the stray kitten without missing a beat!
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Adore my baby girl and so proud of how she has accepted the stray kitten without missing a beat!
One morning while opening up my shop I'm busy turning on lights, computers etc & I see some movement outside my window (Thinking it's the fox that's been hanging around) I sneak up as close as I can & stand up only to be face to face with an 8 month old Brown Bear. Not sure who was more surprised!!
hanimmal
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After losing two of the best dogs I have ever known in 2018 (one to cancer and the other had complications due to a surgery) we got this little grey girl in Sept 2019, and at the same time rescued another boy that was in a horrific situation and we knew was a bit dangerous (I call him a hungry hippo because he likes to stand in one spot and snap/lunge when he is playing but his back end has always been in rough shape (due to being in a cage I am guessing) so he is not really a danger to the other dogs).
Everything was cool and everyone got along great. I would have liked to have taken the puppy to the dog park to get her fully socialized, but the pandemic ended any thought about doing that. We had plenty of space for them all to run around and play so I was not so worried about it.
But like always, puppies grow up fast, and with the vets closed down that we wanted to go to (again pandemic) we were not able to get the little girl spayed after her first heat. It really wasn't that bad, so we didn't really feel the need to rush to get her fixed (the place we wanted to go still wasn't doing 'elective surgeries' due to the pandemic). The males (both rescues) were a little combative around her, but nothing too bad, and she had no aggression towards the older female.
But then came her second heat.
The boys were more agitated, but the bigger problem was that the little girl started going after the older female randomly and causing fights. The first couple times it was out of nowhere and I was able to stop it by tackling her and pinning her down. So we started to separate the girls and everything was a pain in the ass, but fine. Until both my wife and I messed up.
I didn't have the little girl locked up when she let in the older female and my wife came into the room with her and she was immediately attacked (they ran down a flight of stairs from a landing area as the door was shut).
I jumped in to break them up again, and my wife was screaming. That triggered the hungry hippo, who bit her causing her to scream 'Ive been bit' so I had to make the decision to quit trying to separate the girls from fighting and to turn to this guy (below) who was on a landing with my wife.
As I turned to get him off my wife, he turned and bit me in the face. I ended up with 11 stitches. At the time I thought he took my eye out (I thought the blood in it meant that it was gone).
Almost immediately after I got bit in the face, the second male (below) took out my back leg. I am pretty sure he was protecting my wife (who was screaming) and saw me moving fast at her yelling.
My wife moved past me to the other door and she was able to wrestle the little girl out of the room, with the above male behind my wife barking and growling. I was worried that she was going to get bit again, (but the little girl refused to bite us, at one point put my fist right in her mouth to disengage her from the other female to shove her out of the room so that my wife could shut the door) because she was sitting in the doorway stunned (literally could see she was in shock). I had to get her to look at me and tell her a couple times as calmly as possible that I needed her to put those two outside and shut the door and call 911.
As soon as that was happening the other male was coming from behind me barking and the older female turned and protected my back lunging at him and making him back off, which he promptly did, and I am forever thankful to her for (and really want to give her a nice treat right now thinking about it). At this point I thought that I was a goner and just did what I could to stop the fight.
Needless to say we found a vet to spay the little girl as soon as she was able to after her heat.
And everything is mostly back to normal (outside of some weird residual aggressiveness when they see each other at the fence, but it is always triggered when the males start barking at them facing off) after a couple months of wearing a muzzle and slowly bringing the pack back together (in very controlled situations, I still don't trust the females to be outside with the males together).
It took me this long to post this because I still think I have a bit of PTSD, for a good month I could not go a day without the thought of my dogs teeth coming at my face immediately followed by my back leg being taken out.
So what is the point of this TMI?
As a better man than I had said often.
None of this would have happened if we would have gotten her spayed after her first heat. Needless to say, I haven't felt like visiting this thread the last couple months as I have been healing.
Everything was cool and everyone got along great. I would have liked to have taken the puppy to the dog park to get her fully socialized, but the pandemic ended any thought about doing that. We had plenty of space for them all to run around and play so I was not so worried about it.
But like always, puppies grow up fast, and with the vets closed down that we wanted to go to (again pandemic) we were not able to get the little girl spayed after her first heat. It really wasn't that bad, so we didn't really feel the need to rush to get her fixed (the place we wanted to go still wasn't doing 'elective surgeries' due to the pandemic). The males (both rescues) were a little combative around her, but nothing too bad, and she had no aggression towards the older female.
But then came her second heat.
The boys were more agitated, but the bigger problem was that the little girl started going after the older female randomly and causing fights. The first couple times it was out of nowhere and I was able to stop it by tackling her and pinning her down. So we started to separate the girls and everything was a pain in the ass, but fine. Until both my wife and I messed up.
I didn't have the little girl locked up when she let in the older female and my wife came into the room with her and she was immediately attacked (they ran down a flight of stairs from a landing area as the door was shut).
I jumped in to break them up again, and my wife was screaming. That triggered the hungry hippo, who bit her causing her to scream 'Ive been bit' so I had to make the decision to quit trying to separate the girls from fighting and to turn to this guy (below) who was on a landing with my wife.
As I turned to get him off my wife, he turned and bit me in the face. I ended up with 11 stitches. At the time I thought he took my eye out (I thought the blood in it meant that it was gone).
Almost immediately after I got bit in the face, the second male (below) took out my back leg. I am pretty sure he was protecting my wife (who was screaming) and saw me moving fast at her yelling.
My wife moved past me to the other door and she was able to wrestle the little girl out of the room, with the above male behind my wife barking and growling. I was worried that she was going to get bit again, (but the little girl refused to bite us, at one point put my fist right in her mouth to disengage her from the other female to shove her out of the room so that my wife could shut the door) because she was sitting in the doorway stunned (literally could see she was in shock). I had to get her to look at me and tell her a couple times as calmly as possible that I needed her to put those two outside and shut the door and call 911.
As soon as that was happening the other male was coming from behind me barking and the older female turned and protected my back lunging at him and making him back off, which he promptly did, and I am forever thankful to her for (and really want to give her a nice treat right now thinking about it). At this point I thought that I was a goner and just did what I could to stop the fight.
Needless to say we found a vet to spay the little girl as soon as she was able to after her heat.
And everything is mostly back to normal (outside of some weird residual aggressiveness when they see each other at the fence, but it is always triggered when the males start barking at them facing off) after a couple months of wearing a muzzle and slowly bringing the pack back together (in very controlled situations, I still don't trust the females to be outside with the males together).
It took me this long to post this because I still think I have a bit of PTSD, for a good month I could not go a day without the thought of my dogs teeth coming at my face immediately followed by my back leg being taken out.
So what is the point of this TMI?
As a better man than I had said often.
None of this would have happened if we would have gotten her spayed after her first heat. Needless to say, I haven't felt like visiting this thread the last couple months as I have been healing.
Wow, that's a load to carry.
I'm glad you and your pups made it through but that's a lot of damage.
Best of luck my friend - that's a rough road to travel.
hanimmal
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Thanks man, it was so fast too. Just one slip up and maybe 20 seconds of hell.
We are all doing well though or I don't think I could have posted that.
Oh my! I'm glad you were essentially lucky. One thing I'd suggest is getting something like this
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Keep them within easy reach and if the dogs start again walk over to those. I'd probably get a handheld type taser to keep in my pocket so I could get to the larger stun baton.
This is what I carry when I take my dogs out:
A time or two my terrier pack has voted one or another off the island and it works to shock their little butts out of that idea. I'm so glad you are ok.
hanimmal
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Thank you, I was considering getting one of those, but got the suggestion of using a fire extinguisher as a break incase of crazy moment.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Is she Weimaraner? She has that silky look.
hanimmal
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cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Oh! I did not know they looked so alike.
Laughing Grass
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wow you always think of great danes as big lovable goofs. That's scary, glad you're recovering.
Poodles, everyone should have poodles.
cannabineer
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Ruh-roh!
Our Beagle thinks he's a lot bigger than he really is (44 lbs) and has several times been aggressive to the Boerboel (175 lbs) - when the big guy has had enough they've had words - loud ones with teeth involved. The Mastiff basically tackles the little guy & it sounds like he's being killed and of course I jump in & drag him off by the collar. He's not ever tried to bite me (Thank God) but it's spooky to get in the middle of something like that.
I wish you the best - those situations are scary & your's looked worse than anything I've had to deal with.
hanimmal
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Thank you, yeah outside of wildlife they are very sweet. It was just the little girl being in her heat that caused everyone to lose their minds. I have never been around an adult female in heat so had no idea how crazy it could get.
I hope your pack is all doing well too. It is very scary. And thank you again, we are all doing well, just was a eye opener for sure. We were very lucky.
Thank you + the best to you and yours as well.
StonedGardener
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Beautiful
StonedGardener
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We think, after meeting, the male and female Basset pups are getting along just fine.
