Jordan Peterson

ginjawarrior

ginjawarrior

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cogitech said:
Just one final set of statements.

1) Pantheism has nothing to do with faith. Your continued focus on faith shows that you are refusing to acknowledge this.
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faith
feɪθ/
noun
noun: faith
  1. 1.
    complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
    "this restores one's faith in politicians"
    synonyms: trust, belief, confidence, conviction, credence, reliance, dependence;More
    optimism, hopefulness, hope, expectation
    "he completely justified his boss's faith in him"
    antonyms: mistrust
  2. 2.
    strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof.
    "bereaved people who have shown supreme faith"
    synonyms: religion, church, sect, denomination, persuasion, religious persuasion, religious belief, belief, code of belief, ideology, creed, teaching, dogma, doctrine
    "she gave her life for her faith"
    • a particular religion.
      plural noun: faiths
      "the Christian faith"
    • a strongly held belief.
      "men with strong political faiths"
you have belief in pantheism based on spiritual conviction and you have no proof that is text book faith

2) It is not circular - God is identical to the Universe. This identification does not add any new attributes to the Universe, or vice versa.
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your "facts" of pantheism or the universe being god is that everything in the universe is consistent with it being in the universe and that any new thing we find in the universe is consistant with it being in the universe\

thats so circular i got dizzy typing it out
3) You are not questioning my faith. I have no faith.
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see one and the definition of "faith"

i dont see why you are denying that facet of "god" "faith" is well defined within the universe and should be consistant with god
4) You are not understanding what I am saying when I state that scientific facts are consistent with pantheism. I am not saying that these facts "prove" that god exists (the existence of the Universe needs no proof), only that the facts are consistent with the statement that God=Universe.
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i understand perfectly what you are saying

its just its all nonsense

you claim people are not looking at pantheism objectively

we ask what facts are there to look at objectively

and you say "stuff is in the universe is a fact, god is the universe so the stuff in the universe are facts that are consistent with the idea that god is the universe"

the only thing we can be objective about anything like is is the statement "stuff exists" and the only valid response to that is say "yes stuff exists but we'rent we supposed to be talking about a god or something"

5) I shy away from this discussion because your approach is both aggressive and assumptive. You will continue to claim that I have some sort of "faith", despite me repeatedly explaining that I do not. No good will come of it. I do not feel any cosmic compulsion to convince you otherwise. So farewell.
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you have belief in a religous idea without proof to back it up

that is textbook "faith"

you came here of your own accord to tell us how ignorant we all are about pantheism

well here i am as a facet of the god you beleive in (my asking you about god being the universe is certainly consistent with the universe) asking you to enlighten us all to this hidden knowledge that you have that certainly in no way shape or form could ever be described as "faith"
 
ginjawarrior

ginjawarrior

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UncleBuck said:
the first person to use "virtue signalling" unironically on this website was a guy with a "white power" tattoo on his back

the second was a nazi. a literal nazi
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lol this post is just dripping with "virtue signaling"

i know from the amount of posts you have on this site that you dont get out in the wider Internet but "virtue signaling" has been about for a while and it matters nothing about the first person to post it on this site
 
Buddha2525

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Beefbisquit said:
No Buddhist has "hurt me real bad"... All religions propagate things that aren't true, therefore they're all guilty of peddling falsehoods. Most if not all religions, promote magical thinking and promote gullibility.

You can think whatever you want, I wouldn't dream of making religion illegal but if you think I won't speak out against falsehoods being promoted as truth, you don't know me very well.
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Oh I can read you real well. Your love of sycophants, like Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson, is all I need to know.

"INFJs are fond of themselves. They try to have friends but they often do not get past the “hello” phase. They prefer non-interactive media, which is why they predilect for poetry and prose. The fucking paper will not fucking talk back to them.

In the rare occasion that they do manage to befriend someone (after alternating between telling a potential friend too much and then too little about themselves, perhaps they found a balance for once), the INFJ listen to others and then they pretend that the anecdotes relayed to them were ones they experienced themselves. This way, everything can be about them.

INFJs often want to change the world, but what they don’t realize is that they, themselves, need to change. The INFJ animal is a badger. Badgers are dumb. Badgers won’t fucking let go if they bite you, much like an INFJ. INFJs are prone to biting people, the freaks."
 
ginjawarrior

ginjawarrior

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Buddha2525 said:
Oh I can read you real well. Your love of sycophants, like Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson, is all I need to know.

"INFJs are fond of themselves. They try to have friends but they often do not get past the “hello” phase. They prefer non-interactive media, which is why they predilect for poetry and prose. The fucking paper will not fucking talk back to them.

In the rare occasion that they do manage to befriend someone (after alternating between telling a potential friend too much and then too little about themselves, perhaps they found a balance for once), the INFJ listen to others and then they pretend that the anecdotes relayed to them were ones they experienced themselves. This way, everything can be about them.

INFJs often want to change the world, but what they don’t realize is that they, themselves, need to change. The INFJ animal is a badger. Badgers are dumb. Badgers won’t fucking let go if they bite you, much like an INFJ. INFJs are prone to biting people, the freaks."
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I always wondered how Buddhists manage to stay so serene..

Did you have to meditate before writing this post?
 
Buddha2525

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ginjawarrior said:
I always wondered how Buddhists manage to stay so serene..

Did you have to meditate before writing this post?
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Us ENTP Buddhists are firecrackers!

My favorite saying was when a head buddhist monk was asked one too many times, "What is it like being a Buddha?' His answer, "A shit stick."
 
Beefbisquit

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Buddha2525 said:
Us ENTP Buddhists are firecrackers!

My favorite saying was when a head buddhist monk was asked one too many times, "What is it like being a Buddha?' His answer, "A shit stick."
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Meyers Briggs is flaky just like all self reported tests.
Big five is more accurate, but regardless I'm ENTP/INTP..... I almost alealw score as ambivert.

There's a reason I got a degree in philosophy, I love to debate.
 
Buddha2525

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Beefbisquit said:
Meyers Briggs is flaky just like all self reported tests.
Big five is more accurate, but regardless I'm ENTP/INTP..... I almost alealw score as ambivert.

There's a reason I got a degree in philosophy, I love to debate.
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The I'm right, you're wrong, and an idiot, is a personality trait of an FJ, not a TP.

Just like I'm fairly certain UncleBuck is a very unhealthy version of an ESFJ.

Self reporting is very flakey. Like with my wife, she's an ISTP, but she tested as an INTP only because the tests asks bullshit like "are you intuitive or use your five senses" so of course women want to be intuitive and basing their responses on sensing is "insulting."

When I had her answer "five senses" and the like for those questions, "magically" she tested as ISTP.

So the types are accurate, but only if analyzed by someone else who really knows you. The questions are loaded with "messy" in order to type you as P rather than J, but a messy person can often be a J too.

I'm actually more a fan of the Enneagram, done properly it can place you in one of 27 types, not just 16. I'm a 5w6 Professor.

I used to test as an INTJ, but doing some self reflection, I understood the error of my ways, and being an E doesn't mean you're just a whore, and you can be a very picky E.
 
Beefbisquit

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Buddha2525 said:
The I'm right, you're wrong, and an idiot, is a personality trait of an FJ, not a TP.

Just like I'm fairly certain UncleBuck is a very unhealthy version of an ESFJ.

Self reporting is very flakey. Like with my wife, she's an ISTP, but she tested as an INTP only because the tests asks bullshit like "are you intuitive or use your five senses" so of course women want to be intuitive and basing their responses on sensing is "insulting."

When I had her answer "five senses" and the like for those questions, "magically" she tested as ISTP.

So the types are accurate, but only if analyzed by someone else who really knows you. The questions are loaded with "messy" in order to type you as P rather than J, but a messy person can often be a J too.

I'm actually more a fan of the Enneagram, done properly it can place you in one of 27 types, not just 16. I'm a 5w6 Professor.

I used to test as an INTJ, but doing some self reflection, I understood the error of my ways, and being an E doesn't mean you're just a whore, and you can be a very picky E.
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Armchair psychology aside;

I have no patience for idiots, and after repeatedly demonstrating why Buck is wrong and providing evidence to counter his claims, it still hasn't sunk in through his thick, troglodyte skull. Ole "sparkplug" is tiresome at best and intellectually bankrupt at worst, and after 37 pages of his nonsense my responses become much shorter and stabbing.

Anyone who knows me, vehemently agrees with my ENTP status. I fit the description of ENTP to a tee but I tire from too much social stimulation and need to get away from people after prolonged exposure. I have some INTP traits, but I'm more of a debater.

So, no offence but it doesn't matter to me what you think based on our extremely limited interaction.
 
UncleBuck

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ginjawarrior said:
i'm unsure what you are expecting us to hate about that tweet...

how abouts you go read the article and tell us in your own words what we should hate about it
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He could have been more subtle

Since when do we think about Sweden and picture a little black kid?

Clumsy white supremacy propaganda
 
UncleBuck

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ginjawarrior said:
lol this post is just dripping with "virtue signaling"

i know from the amount of posts you have on this site that you dont get out in the wider Internet but "virtue signaling" has been about for a while and it matters nothing about the first person to post it on this site
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Yeah, I’m aware it’s a favorite phrase among the white power crowd
 
UncleBuck

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Beefbisquit said:
Armchair psychology aside;

I have no patience for idiots, and after repeatedly demonstrating why Buck is wrong and providing evidence to counter his claims, it still hasn't sunk in through his thick, troglodyte skull. Ole "sparkplug" is tiresome at best and intellectually bankrupt at worst, and after 37 pages of his nonsense my responses become much shorter and stabbing.

Anyone who knows me, vehemently agrees with my ENTP status. I fit the description of ENTP to a tee but I tire from too much social stimulation and need to get away from people after prolonged exposure. I have some INTP traits, but I'm more of a debater.

So, no offence but it doesn't matter to me what you think based on our extremely limited interaction.
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When did you counter my claim that Peterson peddles the cultural Marxism conspiracy theory to his followers?
 
ginjawarrior

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UncleBuck said:
He was also tweeting the same stuff about white farmers in South Africa that the white power crowd cries about

Odd how he keeps pushing the same issues and crap that white powee types do
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funny how you pretend an article about how the swedish left is going too far with gender neutrality as some sort of white supremacy.

its almost as if you hadnt read the article before posting it and your trying to back peddle because you realise this is a pefect example that you cant pretend that its a "jewish conspiracy"

One Swedish school got rid of its toy cars because boys "gender-coded" them and ascribed the cars higher status than other toys. Another preschool removed "free playtime" from its schedule because, as a pedagogue at the school put it, when children play freely 'stereotypical gender patterns are born and cemented. In free play there is hierarchy, exclusion, and the seed to bullying.' And so every detail of children's interactions gets micromanaged by concerned adults, who end up problematizing minute aspects of children's lives, from how [they form friendships to what games they play and what songs they sing.
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The Swedes are treating gender-conforming children the way we once treated gender-variant children. Formerly called "tomboy girls" and "sissy boys" in the medical literature, these kids are persistently attracted to the toys of the opposite sex. They will often remain fixated on the "wrong" toys despite relentless, often cruel pressure from parents, doctors, and peers. Their total immersion in sex-stereotyped culture—a non-stop Toys"R"Us indoctrination—seems to have little effect on their passion for the toys of the opposite sex. There was a time when a boy who displayed a persistent aversion to trucks and rough play and a fixation on frilly dolls or princess paraphernalia would have been considered a candidate for behavior modification therapy. Today, most experts encourage tolerance, understanding, and acceptance: just leave him alone and let him play as he wants. The Swedes should extend the same tolerant understanding to the gender identity and preferences of the vast majority of children.
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you're a parent right? are you happy with your kid choosing gendered toys for themselves or do you keep it away from anything like that because gendered toys are problematic?
 
Beefbisquit

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ginjawarrior said:
funny how you pretend an article about how the swedish left is going too far with gender neutrality as some sort of white supremacy.

its almost as if you hadnt read the article before posting it and your trying to back peddle because you realise this is a pefect example that you cant pretend that its a "jewish conspiracy"






you're a parent right? are you happy with your kid choosing gendered toys for themselves or do you keep it away from anything like that because gendered toys are problematic?
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Sparkplug is attempting to manufacture offense from things that aren't offensive so he can justify his moral outage. How else can immature, unintelligent, low self-esteem virtue signalers identify him as one of their own if he doesn't have manufactured "outrage" to roll around in like a pig in shit?
 
UncleBuck

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ginjawarrior said:
funny how you pretend an article about how the swedish left is going too far with gender neutrality as some sort of white supremacy.

its almost as if you hadnt read the article before posting it and your trying to back peddle because you realise this is a pefect example that you cant pretend that its a "jewish conspiracy"






you're a parent right? are you happy with your kid choosing gendered toys for themselves or do you keep it away from anything like that because gendered toys are problematic?
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Why does Peterson have such fear of transgender people?
 
UncleBuck

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Beefbisquit said:
Sparkplug is attempting to manufacture offense from things that aren't offensive so he can justify his moral outage. How else can immature, unintelligent, low self-esteem virtue signalers identify him as one of their own if he doesn't have manufactured "outrage" to roll around in like a pig in shit?
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When did you counter my argument that Jordan Peterson peddles cultural Marxism conspiracy theories to his cult followers?
 
ginjawarrior

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UncleBuck said:
Why does Peterson have such fear of transgender people?
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i think the more pertinent question is "why is the far left so against children picking their own gendered toys or natural playtime according to their gender?"..

this isnt being brought about for transpeople...

but even if it was do you think it might be a bit excessive when micromanaging everything from playtime to what toys they can use to accommodate 0.6% of the population?
We find that 0.6% of
U.S. adults identify as transgender
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https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/How-Many-Adults-Identify-as-Transgender-in-the-United-States.pdf

but thats a moot point as this isnt about transpeople
 
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