Jim Carrey knows wussup.

tip top toker said:

I watched a documentary a while back which involved an expenriemtn with a dish of yoghurt connected to a volt meter looking gizmo, a test subject was sat in front of it and was told different phrases. Certain phrases evoked emotions in him and as a result the meter went wild despite not being conneted to him in any way. It was done by Yale or harvard scientists, i forget which. There seems to be a hell of a lot about life that we don't have the foggiest idea about but know that there is soemthing up.

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Im surprised no one is hounding you for stating this lol Interesting experiment though, millions of micro-organisms reacting to the emotion of a human. Can you tell me the name of the documentary and what it was about?

I was stoned bu i think it might have been "I Am", in fact yeah, i think that is it, it was made by the guy who did all of the Jim Carey films. Last time i mentioned it i was ridiculed about it without the guys even bothering to watch it to have any grounds for ridicule. I personally found it a very interesting watch.

Chief Walkin Eagle said:

Still waiting for a detailed reply to every point I made to your last response to that video, friend =). How much self examination do I need to be in the right place? Examine everything I learned and label it false till Im another truth telling robot that has no life and dwells in spirituality forums informing all the idiots that believe in spirit that their fools and science is the only truth? "I have a right to be in the philosophy forum!" oh shut up, you sure do but all you do is question peoples beliefs and ridicule them like a lifeless trolls whos angry at people that see the world differently than they do. We already know your weak minded because you used to be an alcoholic, perhaps questioning peoples beliefs is your way to feel mentally strong.

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Just curious, since you seem so invested on continuing to call me an alcoholic in spite of me correcting you, where is your evidence that alcoholism has to do with being weak minded? I'm still curious why you continue to think I'm an alcoholic when I made no such claim.

You are becoming terribly predictable. You cannot come up with actual reasons for your presenting misinformation and when you are called out on it, you still won't admit you were wrong and instead launch attacks on those that exposed your lies. How about if you just admitted you were wrong about the number of neurons in the heart. Would that be so bad? Are you unable to even admit to being fooled? Would this make you a weak-minded alcoholic? You seem to have a severe allergy to truth.

mindphuk said:

Just curious, since you seem so invested on continuing to call me an alcoholic in spite of me correcting you, where is your evidence that alcoholism has to do with being weak minded? I'm still curious why you continue to think I'm an alcoholic when I made no such claim.

You are becoming terribly predictable. You cannot come up with actual reasons for your presenting misinformation and when you are called out on it, you still won't admit you were wrong and instead launch attacks on those that exposed your lies. How about if you just admitted you were wrong about the number of neurons in the heart. Would that be so bad? Are you unable to even admit to being fooled? Would this make you a weak-minded alcoholic? You seem to have a severe allergy to truth.

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I point out what you do in this spiritual forum and you keep demonstrating my observations lol and Im apparently the predictable one. I admitted I was wrong about the neurons in the heart, theres only 40000. The only thing you proved in that video is that the line is 1000km wide in a certain spot. You tried to tackle the claim that many cultures around the world share the exact same earthquake poof architecture and you failed miserably. I will only assume you will keep waving your hand at that fact and ignore that many ancient cultures around the world had the exact same style of puzzle piece earthquake proof architecture because you cant prove it wrong. The only documentation Im aware of that tells of the construction of these buildings speaks of a Inca King trying to replicate the accomplishments of his ancient predecessors and he failed miserably. He used 20000 men to drag just one boulder that squished 3000 at one point and it didnt even get to its destination, thats just one boulder.

Chief Walkin Eagle said:

I dont care for those questions because this forum topic is not one to debate. Just wanted to show people that Jim Carrey has the right mindset when looking at the challenges of life. This is the third time that I told you that this forum is not open for debate, yet you still feel compelled to point out right and wrong according to your point of view to further fulfill your slightly inflated mini-skeptic ego.

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In post #7, you were actively in the debate, and were okay with tossing in some insults, as well. It seems that you called for an end to the debate when you were losing it badly, that's good timing. Have you no integrity?

Chief Walkin Eagle said:

I point out what you do in this spiritual forum and you keep demonstrating my observations lol and Im apparently the predictable one. I admitted I was wrong about the neurons in the heart, theres only 40000. The only thing you proved in that video is that the line is 1000km wide in a certain spot. You tried to tackle the claim that many cultures around the world share the exact same earthquake poof architecture and you failed miserably. I will only assume you will keep waving your hand at that fact and ignore that many ancient cultures around the world had the exact same style of puzzle piece earthquake proof architecture because you cant prove it wrong. The only documentation Im aware of that tells of the construction of these buildings speaks of a Inca King trying to replicate the accomplishments of his ancient predecessors and he failed miserably. He used 20000 men to drag just one boulder that squished 3000 at one point and it didnt even get to its destination, thats just one boulder.

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I will keep the pyramid discussion to the relevant thread so you will have to C &P that part of your response there.
The following does not sound like an admission of being wrong, "I may be stretching it by saying theres more than the brain but its been proven that theres 40000+ neurons in your heart"
It sounds like someone trying to brush past the fact that they were not only wrong but extraordinarily wrong. You "may" be stretching? Then you add the "but" clause which everyone knows is designed to minimize the preceding phrase. You tried to salvage any remnant of the claim that the heart not only has more neurons but is responsible for a large EM field. Everyone that is reading this exchange, regardless of their position on anything spiritual, can see how extremely intellectually dishonest you are.

Now how about address the personal attack you keep bringing up about me being an alcoholic? Why are you continuing to make this claim when I told you already it wasn't true? Are you so devoid of common courtesy and decency that you cannot or will not debate me in a fair, reasonable, adult manner? Why don't you man up and admit that your extreme prejudice against me is merely because I question things that you hold to be truths? Admit you have an aversion to critical examination of claims and that you prefer credulity to truth.

tyler.durden said:

In post #7, you were actively in the debate, and were okay with tossing in some insults, as well. It seems that you called for an end to the debate when you were losing it badly, that's good timing. Have you no integrity?

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You mistake mindless self indulgence for debate.

tyler.durden said:

More neurons in the heart than the brain? - Could you provide a link to legit info outside of HeartMath?

If you're interested in the science regarding the human heart, wouldn't it be best to study peer reviewed info on that subject (maybe from institutions without something to sell)?

What does my ego have to do with asking for legit, unbiased info? This is what rational people do when presented with extraordinary claims. You should understand this, as you are skeptical of christian claims. Is it your ego that fuels your skepticism in this case?

If I told you I sell baby dragons out of my garage, would you believe me? If not, what would make you skeptical of my claims?

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If you told me that you sell baby dragons I would believe you. I would love to buy a baby dragon. How big do they get?

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If you told me that you sell baby dragons I would believe you. I would love to buy a baby dragon. How big do they get?

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Not as large as Chief's loss of credibility, but it will outgrow your fucking house!

mindphuk said:

I will keep the pyramid discussion to the relevant thread so you will have to C &P that part of your response there.
The following does not sound like an admission of being wrong, "I may be stretching it by saying theres more than the brain but its been proven that theres 40000+ neurons in your heart"
It sounds like someone trying to brush past the fact that they were not only wrong but extraordinarily wrong. You "may" be stretching? Then you add the "but" clause which everyone knows is designed to minimize the preceding phrase. You tried to salvage any remnant of the claim that the heart not only has more neurons but is responsible for a large EM field. Everyone that is reading this exchange, regardless of their position on anything spiritual, can see how extremely intellectually dishonest you are.

Now how about address the personal attack you keep bringing up about me being an alcoholic? Why are you continuing to make this claim when I told you already it wasn't true? Are you so devoid of common courtesy and decency that you cannot or will not debate me in a fair, reasonable, adult manner? Why don't you man up and admit that your extreme prejudice against me is merely because I question things that you hold to be truths? Admit you have an aversion to critical examination of claims and that you prefer credulity to truth.

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No you wont keep the pyramid discussion to the relevant thread, because you wont even address the fact that multiple ancient cultures shared the same massive earthquake proof puzzle piece design, because if you accept such evidence then that would mean everything you know about the ancient world is wrong and they were more advanced than we know. Im not expecting a response to the evidence I laid out because that evidence scares you and it would spring a leak in your inflated ego and you might get a realistic glimpse of the mental midget you really are. I dont know where I seen you discussing your problems with alcohol but Im sure it was you, talking about your experience in AA. Its funny you start calling me a liar just recently when I been calling you a weak minded alcoholic for a while now, why did you not try and correct me before? Had to go find the comments you made about such AA experiences and delete them first? It wouldnt be the first time you lied to yourself, remember that pyramid video that you claimed you watched?.. Now please, go to the relevant thread about the pyramids and disprove the claims I made about these cultures around the world having contact with each other because of the exact same indestructible architecture that they all share. And the claim of that EM field produced by the heart is still standing too, Tip Top Toker just gave you a legit example of real scientists doing an experiment that shows bacteria from yogurt responding to the emotions of an individual. Its ironic that you say Im the one in need of self examination.

tip top toker said:

I watched a documentary a while back which involved an expenriemtn with a dish of yoghurt connected to a volt meter looking gizmo, a test subject was sat in front of it and was told different phrases. Certain phrases evoked emotions in him and as a result the meter went wild despite not being conneted to him in any way. It was done by Yale or harvard scientists, i forget which. There seems to be a hell of a lot about life that we don't have the foggiest idea about but know that there is soemthing up.

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I've never seen the movie, but Roger Ebert and I have the same questions about the 'experiment' itself. Here's an outtake from one of his articles on the subject. Seems like Woo of the highest order:

There is a scene in "I Am" where a laboratory technician embeds sensors in a puddle of yogurt and attaches them to a Bio-Response Meter. When Tom Shadyac directs his thoughts at the yogurt, the needle on the meter bounces back and forth. It is important for you to know that Shadyac is not physically attached to the meter, or to the yogurt, for that matter. When he thinks about his lawyer, the needle red-lines.
It's obvious that the yogurt is reading his mind, right? Right? Hello? For Shadyac and the technician, this experiment demonstrates that our minds are wired to the organic world. For me, it raises the following questions: (1) Was the yogurt pasteurized? (2) How did the yogurt know to read Shadyac's mind and not the mind of the technician who was just as close? (3) How did it occur to anyone to devise an experiment testing whether yogurt can respond to human thoughts? (4) Did anyone check to see if the technician was connected to the meter by? (5) Is this a case for the Amazing Randi?

You see I am a rationalist. That means I'm not an ideal viewer for a documentary like "I Am," which involves the ingestion of Woo Woo in industrial bulk...

For those that are interested in the full review:

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110421/REVIEWS/110429996

I hope Jim Carreygoes back on his meds. He was one hell of a funny actor, but Hollywood seemed to ignore him, gave him some crappy rolls, and then just seemed to drop him. That could of been from getting of needed drugs and he flipped, or after being pushed out that caused him to flip. Either way, the guy doesn't seem right.

Chief Walkin Eagle said:

I dont know where I seen you discussing your problems with alcohol but Im sure it was you, talking about your experience in AA. Its funny you start calling me a liar just recently when I been calling you a weak minded alcoholic for a while now, why did you not try and correct me before? Had to go find the comments you made about such AA experiences and delete them first?

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Wow, talk about an air tight case! Clearly MP has been drunk this whole time, probably beating his wife between posts.

Dirty Harry said:

I hope Jim Carreygoes back on his meds. He was one hell of a funny actor, but Hollywood seemed to ignore him, gave him some crappy rolls, and then just seemed to drop him. That could of been from getting of needed drugs and he flipped, or after being pushed out that caused him to flip. Either way, the guy doesn't seem right.

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Poor mutli-millionaire

Heisenberg said:

Wow, talk about an air tight case! Clearly MP has been drunk this whole time, probably beating his wife between posts.

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Wife? I wasnt aware skeptics were capable of human interaction, being that they are so miserable all the time and care so much what other people think, what controlling relationships those must be...

Dirty Harry said:

I hope Jim Carreygoes back on his meds. He was one hell of a funny actor, but Hollywood seemed to ignore him, gave him some crappy rolls, and then just seemed to drop him. That could of been from getting of needed drugs and he flipped, or after being pushed out that caused him to flip. Either way, the guy doesn't seem right.

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I think hes doing alright, I cant remember his most recent movies but I thought Bruce Almighty, Yes Man and Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind were great movies. He still shows some of his signature goofiness in Yes Man.

Chief Walkin Eagle said:

...And the claim of that EM field produced by the heart is still standing too, Tip Top Toker just gave you a legit example of real scientists doing an experiment that shows bacteria from yogurt responding to the emotions of an individual. Its ironic that you say Im the one in need of self examination.

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No one stated that the heart doesn't have an EM field, just not one known to effect the entire planet or be detectable by satellites. Real scientists? Read my post #31. Just two jokers with a camera, the director and a cameraman. I know you're new to science, but these two do NOT constitute real scientists. Why would you believe toker just because he said it without any further inquiry? That's what makes you THE CHIEF! Go, chief, go... No really, get the hell out of here

tyler.durden said:

No one stated that the heart doesn't have an EM field, just not one known to effect the entire planet or be detectable by satellites. Real scientists? Read my post #31. Just two jokers with a camera, the director and a cameraman. I know you're new to science, but these two do NOT constitute real scientists. Why would you believe toker just because he said it without any further inquiry? That's what makes you THE CHIEF! Go, chief, go... No really, get the hell out of here

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Get the hell outta here? nah, what would you guys do to spend your time if I wasnt here? Get outside in the real world and do something productive instead of getting mad at people that view the world differently than you do? yeah right... like thats gunna happen.

Chief Walkin Eagle said:

Get the hell outta here? nah, what would you guys do to spend your time if I wasnt here? Get outside in the real world and do something productive instead of getting mad at people that view the world differently than you do? yeah right... like thats gunna happen.

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I don't care if beliefs differ from my own, but I used to think that they had to be based on SOMETHING. I've never met a person who will believe things with absolutely no evidence, and no effort, whatsoever. We see this trait in very young children, as it's part of their survival mechanisms. But I didn't think an adult that retained this trait would survive for long, and I'm obviously mistaken about that. You're also right that I don't really want you gone, you provide much better entertainment than what's been on lately. Then again, I don't have cable anymore...

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I dont know where I seen you discussing your problems with alcohol but Im sure it was you, talking about your experience in AA. Its funny you start calling me a liar just recently when I been calling you a weak minded alcoholic for a while now, why did you not try and correct me before? Had to go find the comments you made about such AA experiences and delete them first?

And the claim of that EM field produced by the heart is still standing too, Tip Top Toker just gave you a legit example of real scientists doing an experiment that shows bacteria from yogurt responding to the emotions of an individual. Its ironic that you say Im the one in need of self examination.

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Yes, I went to AA and NA. I was required to go by court order, for marijuana addiction. Yes, that's right, I'm a cannabis addict and I have experience with the twelve step programs and their brainwashing propaganda machine and you use that information to launch personal attacks against me every chance you get. Well congratulations, you have demonstrated your ability to make ad hominem attacks and poison the well. Even if I were a drunk, you still have no argument and you continue to perpetuate the dangerous myth that alcoholics are somehow mentally defective and incapable of clear, rational thinking. I guess most people would think you were an alcoholic by reading your irrational and abusive posts.

As for the EM field claim, you didn't just claim the heart has one, you said, "biggest" and was directly related to your claim about it having more neurons than the brain. The fact is you can't just admit you were wrong and move on. You still seem to be trying to cover, minimize and defend the very incorrect statements you made. Your dishonesty here for all to witness. You claim I have been dishonest but you have yet to actually prove it or even give a clear example of where I have lied. I am quite comfortable letting other readers decide for themselves. How about you?