Jigfresh's DIY Closet DWC Scrog 650w HID - Hindu Skunk & White Widow- First Grow Ever

aww sweep her off her feet tomoarrow you know how to do it then she will be ok with you doing it plus just let her know it saves you money later hahaha thats what i have to keep telling my girl its the truth.

This morning after having everything setup and running for a while things have stabilized. The room temp is between 77 and 82 depending on which thermometer you trust. Water temp has climbed to 72. The pH this morning was up near 7.75.

I researched and decided to put 60mL of Magi-Cal in the rez. That is 2 mL/ Gal. That brought the pH down to 6.45.

Room: 80 F
Water: 72 F
pH: 6.45
ppm: 95

I know you shouldn't change the pH that fast, but i don't know how it got that high that fast overnight. I also want to bring the pH down more to around 5.8, but figured I just changed it 1.3 ph, I should wait a bit to bring it down anymore with some pH down solution.

I have attached the pics I took of the stuff I bought yesterday too. 36 gal of distilled water, magi-cal, two measuring containers, extension cord, 3 bottles for ph buffers, ebson salt, and hydrogen peroxide. I also got a free trial of rockwool alternate from the hydro store.

I cut a really ugly exhaust because I was in a hurry. I'll clean it up later. I also put the level gauge in the new rez. As I was filling the rez I marked graduations on it.

I drilled holes in the top to run all the air tubing through. And I hooked up the thermostat to the exhaust fan in the door.

Any suggestions? I'll take anything.

looking good man all stocked up for couple weeks eh ........one shopping cart full of water huh hahaha thats what i get at walmart ..........whats the shiny circle thing on top?...... oh and why dont you just use ph up and ph down to help with adjusting ?

Hulk Nugs said:

looking good man all stocked up for couple weeks eh ........one shopping cart full of water huh hahaha thats what i get at walmart ..........whats the shiny circle thing on top?...... oh and why dont you just use ph up and ph down to help with adjusting ?

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I told the lady at walmart I was thirsty.

Shiny thing is a remote thermometer with a rain gauge. Wife got it on sale for $10.

I read you shouldn't change the pH more than .1 every 4 hours. I know you're not an expert, but you think I should just go ahead and adjust down to 5.8.

I've looked at my plants too much, and I totally can't tell if they look better, the same, or worse. I guess if I can't tell that's a good sign.

The 5 Hindu's were all in a rockwool cube together, so some of their roots had to be cut when separating them. I figure that will give them a little shock, so maybe that's why I am dreaming they are looking sad.

nah dont worry about the .1 every 4 hours i have talked to my local hydro and others and we all think thats crazy i have never gone by that rule and i have been doing fine with my plants just gotta watch your ph meter mine started going nuts on me .......one water feeeding i almost had to dump like 12 oz of ph down and i new somthing was up and just dumped that water and tested my meter it was fuked up so keep up on your metters ......... i have never checked a ppm or ec readding yet and from my nute chart they say thats a must but i dont have a bill to throw on a metter oh well we will see what happens.........were did your wife get that thermostat ? do you plug one of your fans into it or does it just tell you the temps and humidity ? i have been wanting to finish my thermostat i started building i just dont know much about electircal stuff like that gotta read up more .....dam i dont read nearly as much as i should

Yea JigFresh for sure, I am very new to this game so I could use the extra help. I should hopefully have sprouts in the next day or two, so that puts us at about the right time frame. I still haven't decided how large I am going to grow my plants yet, I guess it depends on if the CFLs are actually worth a damn versus the HPS. But good luck man, I hope we are both tending to some stanky buds in a few months!

poorcrippledkid said:

But good luck man, I hope we are both tending to some stanky buds in a few months!

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Good luck to you too. Stinky buds for sure

I adjusted the pH to 5.7. I believed them, but they sure aren't kidding that you don't need a lot of the pH down. I think i used about 3 or 4 mL to move it almost 1 pH.

I added a drawing of the venting and airpump configuration.

Hey guys. Another night and the girls still look good.

I still can't tell any difference, so I'm taking that as a positive.

I read (i think earl said it) that during veg the room should have between 45 and 55 % humidity. I'm around 38-42% so I misted the little girls just now. The $7 mister from Home Depot works pretty good. I have lots of air circulation so I'm not worried about them being too wet.

EDIT: after misting the Hum is up to 50%

I changed the light from 28" to 20" away from the plants, but I don't know if they liked it, so I moved it back up to 28".

I've also started a drawing log, for fun, so I can compare what the girls look like the first couple weeks (while I can still draw them).

What about my DM Grow nutes, should I start those things at a low dose now, or give them a little longer break?

Jig, looking great man! Test the water, give them a taste of the nutes and see how they handle it. I would start of very low and slowly increase it. I imagine you'll see some serious growth immediately as long as you don't give em too much. Keep a log of what you give them, it WILL come in handy later. Also, I keep a journal for every change I make, it comes in handy when I need to refer back to myself when I'm stoned and forget stuff... lol (how many days ago was that???)

I'm still looking for the shiny thing your wife got for you for $10, I didn't see it in any photos. You can foliar feed also since you got that nifty mister...

My understanding about vegging in a screen. It seems to me from my first SCROG that the longer veg time means the taller the stalks will become and the tighter the screen will be filled. I got lucky on my first grow and filled the screen perfectly at 3/4 full during veg, which became completely full during bloom.

I believe the minimal veg time people are referring to is so that time isn't wasted letting the plants fill the screen when they could be flowering already. What i think they mean is that you should do your vegging before you put plants into screen so that more time can be spent flowering, resulting in a quicker turn around. Meaning, start your clones early enough to fill your screen 3/4 full as you introduce the plants to the screen, that way they can be put into flower immediately instead of waiting to fill screen.

I already have clones cut for my second run and have already topped them 2 times and they have already recovered, so when I put them into my grow box/screen I can start flowering from day 1.

drynroasty said:

I'm still looking for the shiny thing your wife got for you for $10, I didn't see it in any photos.

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Target had mine on sale around new years, because they have the new models out now. They are white and cost $30.

It's in between the two pots on the bottom left in the pic.

but what does that thermostat do ??? does it controll fans(shuts off at sertin temps and turns on at sertin temps)?? or just tell you the temp ? i checked out the target web sit didnt find anything that looked like that.

Hulk Nugs said:

but what does that thermostat do ??? does it controll fans(shuts off at sertin temps and turns on at sertin temps)?? or just tell you the temp ? i checked out the target web sit didnt find anything that looked like that.

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You run an extension cord (end cut) to the thermostat. Black wire goes to Thermo. White wire goes strait through to fan. The thermostat has a dial to set the "fan on" temp at. That makes it a cooling fan. It turns the fan on at a high temp and off lower. They make heating fans that turn on at a low temp and off higher.

There is no read out, so you cannot use it as a thermometer too.

I have mine set at 80.

I bought it at Lowe's for $24. They are in the roofing section. Hidden by the attic fans and 'whole house' fans. Those 'whole house' fans look scary. Chop up some people with that thing.

I got 233 - 2" x 2" holes to fill.

This is going to be fun.

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It will be...

Keep the dead foliage clear so you don't invite any pests and stay on top of the growth. It will be much easier to manipulate your gurls safely if you have an idea of how you want the branches to grow into the screen before they get there.

If your intake/exhaust can be accessed by pests, add screens to keep them out because they will find your hidden treasure.

jigfresh said:

You run an extension cord (end cut) to the thermostat. Black wire goes to Thermo. White wire goes strait through to fan. The thermostat has a dial to set the "fan on" temp at. That makes it a cooling fan. It turns the fan on at a high temp and off lower. They make heating fans that turn on at a low temp and off higher.

There is no read out, so you cannot use it as a thermometer too.

I have mine set at 80.

I bought it at Lowe's for $24. They are in the roofing section. Hidden by the attic fans and 'whole house' fans. Those 'whole house' fans look scary. Chop up some people with that thing.

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i was talking about the silver circle thermostat....i was trying to hook up a thermostat like that but its a heat and cool so i willl have a fan and a heater hooked up to it i hope if it dosnt work out i will just get two of those and just hook one up to a fan and the other to the heater.... i dont know if its even worth it to do all this

Hulk Nugs said:

i dont know if its even worth it to do all this

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I've felt like that so many times recently. Faith keeps me going. (that sounds all religious, but i just mean i beleive the plants will turn out good)

you go fishing man ? i like to go stream fishing any good spots around there ......have not gone fishing up there in a long time and never had any luck every one said they dont stock the streams only the lake.

I learned to fly fish in Colorado and don't think the local fishing will compare (unless I am in a fishing vessel with twin Mercs...). You live in a beautiful spot though. Do you watch the barge-o-fireworks on the 4th?

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Hulk Nugs said:

you go fishing man ? i like to go stream fishing any good spots around there ......have not gone fishing up there in a long time and never had any luck every one said they dont stock the streams only the lake.

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I don't fish. I have no idea, but my neighbor who lives here during the summer lives for fishing. I'll ask him sometime when I'm helping him use his email (old people are funny). I have been ocean fishing a few times, but I sucked at it. I loved it though.

drynroasty said:

I learned to fly fish in Colorado and don't think the local fishing will compare (unless I am in a fishing vessel with twin Mercs...). You live in a beautiful spot though. Do you watch the barge-o-fireworks on the 4th?

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You are right about colorado. I think it's like comparing vail to big bear. That's what I gather from my fishing neighbor.

I do love my place. We got a foot of snow yesterday and it's really beautiful. We planned this time so no more adventures. We are hunkerd down.

We're lame, we usually stay in on holidays, but all the people on my street tell me I have to go watch.

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So your website is trying to be like RollItUp.org only you are going to make money off your members by selling items to them. That should make for some unbiased opinions floating around the forums.

I really don't understand spamming with a link to a similar but totally inferior website. What's the point in that? Are you seeking ridicule?

I guess this is what happens when we are active on my tread.

Question: I know I could just look it up, but during spellcheck it suggested for spamming: SPUMING. What the hell is that? Sounds disgusting.

Also spellcheck comes up on spellcheck. Oh, the irony.

I'm so pissed. I just spent 10 minutes typing a post and went to add pictures, but it blocked the popup, so I go to allow it and BAM. Reloaded the page and wiped me out. I guess I should have thought about that, but damn.

Overnight pH rose to 6.3. wTemp 70.5 ppm 105.

I've misted a few times now. The plants dry off in 5 minutes or so. The humidity is steady at 40% til I spray then goes to 50%. Should I keep misting every hour or so to keep humidity up?

I added some nutes. Dutch Master website says 284 +284 mL aiming at 800 ppm. I used 100 + 100 mL of the A + B Grow formulas. Came out to 390. Here are the numbers before and after:

6.08 pH 105 ppm 72.2 F went to
5.84 pH 390 ppm 70.4 F

When do you think I'll know it's safe to add more? I'm going to wait till the morning and try 50 + 50 more if everything seems ok, or if they seem to like it even. Tell me if I'm wrong, please.

pic1: other part of infamous round shiny silver thing. it has inside and outside (remote) temp. has a high/ low history for both.

pic 2+3: A +B respectively. A looks like pee and B like gatorade. B was more viscous than A. Neither smelled too bad.

pic 4: wet firewood that won't fit in my wood stove anyways. big cat house with black cat sleeping inside.