Jerry Garcia
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Jerry's Perpetually Organic Garden
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SupraSPL
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Hey man nice setup! I am glad I came across your thread again to see what you have been working on because I am on the same page with a lot of it. I am all over the organics + chem family lines after sampling chemdawg and snowdawg. Also the TGA stuff after a few killer Qleaner phenos and success with Agent Orange and Apollo 13bx. Next I'm looking at Space Queen and Chernobyl. Cali Connection's Sour OG and Sour Diesel got my attention. I will be looking forward to see how yours turn out.
Glad to see you found the GO line useful. It looks a lot better than the Biobizz line which most of my friends are still paying premiums for (watered down blackstrap molasses is their grow fert 1-0-6). Wish I could talk them into GO. I gave up on liquid nutes altogether and started using Epsoma plant tone, indonesian guano, kelp meal, raw humates, azomite and EWC. The only liquids I am sticking with are blackstrap molasses and SPT for ACT brewing. Good luck man I'll be checking in on the Space Queen and Sour OG for sure!
Glad to see you found the GO line useful. It looks a lot better than the Biobizz line which most of my friends are still paying premiums for (watered down blackstrap molasses is their grow fert 1-0-6). Wish I could talk them into GO. I gave up on liquid nutes altogether and started using Epsoma plant tone, indonesian guano, kelp meal, raw humates, azomite and EWC. The only liquids I am sticking with are blackstrap molasses and SPT for ACT brewing. Good luck man I'll be checking in on the Space Queen and Sour OG for sure!
Jerry Garcia
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Hell yeah supra, it does sound like there are many overlaps in our grows and strains. I've got some sour grapes x og, deadhead og and apollo 13 on the way.
Stay tuned for the ride!
I use it with every feeding, 2 tsp (10 ml) per gallon.
SimplySmoked
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This is an amazing thread with lots of great information. I commend you on your work and finished products. Please continue to inspire others.
Jerry Garcia
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Thanks. Just trying to share my experiences to better mine and everyone else's cultivating skills.
Jerry Garcia
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I was watering today and had my camera handy, so I snapped a couple pics as they were out.
Left to Right: Sour OG #3, Tahoe OG #3, NYC Diesel
Sour #3. Really starting to see swelling in those calyxes. Probably another week to 10 days, depending.
Tahoe #3. Not as much of a sweller, but dripping with resin. Same harvest time frame as Sour #3.
NYC Diesel. The scent on this plant is really starting to come through. The only way to describe it is EXOTIC smelling...rotting mango/passion fruit...not at all like Sour Diesel.
Sour #4. Needs a few days longer than Sour #3 and Tahoe #3. Getting thick up top though...and smelling extra grape these days.
Left to Right: Sour OG #3, Tahoe OG #3, NYC Diesel
Sour #3. Really starting to see swelling in those calyxes. Probably another week to 10 days, depending.
Tahoe #3. Not as much of a sweller, but dripping with resin. Same harvest time frame as Sour #3.
NYC Diesel. The scent on this plant is really starting to come through. The only way to describe it is EXOTIC smelling...rotting mango/passion fruit...not at all like Sour Diesel.
Sour #4. Needs a few days longer than Sour #3 and Tahoe #3. Getting thick up top though...and smelling extra grape these days.
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wyteberrywidow
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++++++++rep Looking real good jerry im impressed by the sights of those girls...Good news for me my sour og and larry og are bothe female now im waiting on the other three to show sex
farmer2424
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man, that tahoe #3 is one frosty bitch. nice to see the colas on the nyc diesel filling in nicely. i'd rep u if i could jerry. u da man
Wolverine97
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Guh. Good game Jerry...
Jerry Garcia
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Not quite as close as last year, but you guys made a game out of it there at the end.
Wolverine97
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Honestly, not sour grapes, but the officials have way too much influence in NCAABB, they killed our momentum about halfway through the second half with three bunk calls in a row, nine point swing right there. I'm not at all saying we would have won, I just wish they didn't have as much influence as they do. I'd say the same if it went the other way. Good luck in the tounament. Beat Penn State please.
Jerry Garcia
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Here are my 4 Cali Connection Sour Diesel and 2 Jamaican Me Crazy. All the Sour Diesels got burned pretty good when I initially transplanted them, but have since recovered and are looking good. All shots were taken immediately before watering.
Here are the Jamaican Me Crazy. These suffered no burn at all, just a little tip curl. Also, both plants are TRIPLOIDS, much like the Sour OG male I used for pollen. One has 3 branches per node, one kinda has a third single node between the other nodes. Very weird, but if either are female it will be awesome.
Sour Diesel #1 and #2
JMC on left, SD #1 and #2 on right.
SD #3 and #4. I think one of these is already showing male preflowers, even though they're only ~28 days into veg. You can see remnants of the burn on a couple lower leaves.
When I train my plants, this is what I'm shooting for. It doesn't always work out, as each plant responds different, but this is it what I want. I use paper clips to spread out the branches where I want them, tying them to the pot when they get large enough. I'm going to experiment with some single-pot scrog's too, just for fun.
Here are the Jamaican Me Crazy. These suffered no burn at all, just a little tip curl. Also, both plants are TRIPLOIDS, much like the Sour OG male I used for pollen. One has 3 branches per node, one kinda has a third single node between the other nodes. Very weird, but if either are female it will be awesome.
Sour Diesel #1 and #2
JMC on left, SD #1 and #2 on right.
SD #3 and #4. I think one of these is already showing male preflowers, even though they're only ~28 days into veg. You can see remnants of the burn on a couple lower leaves.
When I train my plants, this is what I'm shooting for. It doesn't always work out, as each plant responds different, but this is it what I want. I use paper clips to spread out the branches where I want them, tying them to the pot when they get large enough. I'm going to experiment with some single-pot scrog's too, just for fun.
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mrorganics
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hey man I have a question, my plants look kinda droopy what do you think it could be I was thinking not enough food even though I feed every other watering with heavy nutes. also what kinda soil and when do you start feeding? this next run I want to mimic your medium and nutes, Also could the leaf curl just be genetic? also what do you think about prolonged use of microbials, bioroot and diamond black. You would think after a few waterings that you would have enough root and black in the soil it would have done its job. Just a thought man i dont know whether to use black and root every feeding or every other feeding so like every 4th watering.
amazing looking plants as usual
amazing looking plants as usual
wyteberrywidow
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+rep jerry looking good
Jerry Garcia
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Drooping is a sign of over/under watering and doesn't have any correlation to nutrients (well maybe not zero correlation, but typically the cause of drooping is too frequent/infrequent waterings).
Leaf curl (clawing) is a result of too much nutrients. Some plants can handle more nutrients than others, while some burn/curl at the slightest overfert, so in that respect I suppose it is genetic. It is definitely a sign to give a few water only feedings and cut back on the amount of nutes. If you've been going heavy every other watering and are seeing those problems you could either use less nutes at the same frequency, or continue administering heavily but do it every 3rd watering instead of second. I would suggest the first option.
I use a peat-based soilless mix as my base (sunshine, metro mix, or biobizz light mix <------preferred), and mix in some Light Warrior, 30-45% worm castings, high-N guano, azomite, dolomite lime, kelp meal, mycorrhizae. Recently I got a bag of Roots I've been adding to the mix, and I just picked up some alfalfa meal.
As for the Diamond Black and BioRoot, I give them both every feeding, and sometimes in between feedings if I think they need a little boost (along with the BioWeed). You can definitely back off using them as you progress through flower if you want, but I just keep giving it to them at roughly the same dosage (high-ish). I typically reduce the amount of Grow and Bloom nutes and continue to administer the full strength of everything else (ESPECIALLY THE CAL-MAG).
Each plant is an individual, and should be treated as such. Sweeping generalizations about feeding patterns are helpful, but the key is to adapt those patterns to your specific plants. I typically find it takes a generation or two of growing out a strain before I know exactly what it wants and when it wants it.
mrorganics
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thanks man thanks alot, i think i have beeen overwatering but ive been cutting back and the plants are perking u but i also underwatered the shit out of them so i think i shocked them a little, you live and you learn, thanks for the info man.