Jacky Nugz presents: SkunkHouse/GT2 Intro. (First run)

What is that like 24,000 watts? Holy shot. I guess I am that guy.

I wasn't knocking the product, simply thought it was a bit gimmicky.

The results speak for themselves. You grow very nice plants.

I came here to share my personal experience, with a particular system. I think you need to Google the definition of "Vertical" bud....if you'd really prefer to play the "let's compare grows" game, I can play that too....Chances are, I've been cultivating Cannabis, longer than you've been on this rock. If you'd like to see some pics of some "Real" gardens, let me know. I've got plenty.
I welcome any and all questions and respectful comments, but if you wanna just bring negativity to my Thread...save it.

hondagrower420 said:

What is that like 24,000 watts? Holy shot. I guess I am that guy.

I wasn't knocking the product, simply thought it was a bit gimmicky.

The results speak for themselves. You grow very nice plants.

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32k...No worries bro, the comment just seemed negative. If you'd like to see more pics of other grows, i'd be happy to share. Have a kick ass day.

hondagrower420 said:

Not my pic but that is a vertical grow.

Are you trying to sell this planter or something? I would say to charge like 1.5 million each for the ground breaking tech.

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no, not my product. I just wanted to share, because I think the idea behind the Towers are pretty unique. Especially the Compost tube.

I just simply stated I didn't believe it was vertical. I'm open to learning.

I opened the thread and read the entire thing, I don't skim.

I was under the impression that vertical growing was accomplished with both the plant and light source were on vertical axis.

How is the compost tube coming along. You said that it will get full, around what week does it actually become occur?

The inner ring before it's filled with compost will also help roots breath correct?

Jacky Nugz said:

no, not my product. I just wanted to share, because I think the idea behind the Towers are pretty unique. Especially the Compost tube.

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Yes, I like that part too.

I totally want a chute from my kitchen window right into the top of one, lol

hondagrower420 said:

I just simply stated I didn't believe it was vertical. I'm open to learning.

I opened the thread and read the entire thing, I don't skim.

I was under the impression that vertical growing was accomplished with both the plant and light source were on vertical axis.

How is the compost tube coming along. You said that it will get full, around what week does it actually become occur?

The inner ring before it's filled with compost you also help roots breath correct?

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I'd like to clarify, that I do not work for, nor am I employed by the company that produces this system. I am just really impressed with this particular system.
These Towers remind me of the Sea of Green method, 3D.
The Compost Tubes are pretty full now, but the worms seem to be doing their jobs, quite effectively and the level of the Tubes drop by several inches a day. I have around 1750 Red composting Worms in each Tube (with the exception of the Hydro Towers). The root systems had definitely began to fill the Tube, before I began adding Compostables and bedding (shredded cardboard). I wont harvest the castings, until after harvest to avoid causing any damage to the Roots system.

I'll post an update Tomorrow.
Have a great day all. Keep it stoney!

Two firsts for me here so far; first time I've seen either a vertical compost tube- damn spiffy- OR a system that grows plants directly in the compost bed. Brilliant!

What do you think of the potential for the use of aquaponics for the hydro towers?

The reason(s) I don't like it are (mostly) due to plant count being so high.
I have seen similar towers and I still think they are better for other crops.

I would agree with WDP. While a interesting idea, the plant count is what kills it for me. With all the laws seeming to restrict plant count, getting the most from a single plant will be the norm. Kinda sad they did it like that. SOG can be a beast in fast production with 12/12 from rooted clones. Get a fast blooming strain. Harvest every 50-60 days. Thats where a system like this could really shine. Organic no till vertical tower SOG.

While this system may not be ideal for a production grower, I believe there's a very respectable niche for it in the hobby market. You've got loads of spots to grow herbs of all sorts- cannabis too, if you like- it's got a compost bin and really maximizes a tiny footprint. I like it!

The design is good. The concept is good.
I like it but I wouldn't use it for cannabis.
Aside from the plant count... things are fine until you switch from veg to bloom. Your companion plants will also bloom.
Cilantro, basil, dill, etc will all taste bitter after bolting. The companion plants that flower will COMPETE with the planted cannabis for nutrients to maintain flower production.
Now it's going to sound like I'm bashing the unit.... but let's look at a mature cannabis plant ready to be harvested... go ahead and cut off the branches and trim it and hang it. What are you going to do about that root mass that has cemented itself inside the system? There is going to be some struggling and fighting to turn that system over again for another plant. The companion plants will likely suffer. A perpetual grow will be a disaster in this setup. You would have to do it all at once and tear it down and start over after each harvest.
NOT cannabis friendly.
I'm not saying it CAN'T work. I'm just saying you couldn't pay me enough to spend time on it (for cannabis). For culinary herbs its a great thing.

IMO you grow in it ROLS, no TILL so there is zero of what you are discussing......No offense but who gives a fck if the herbs flower same time as the weed. You seen my garden? Its all mixed together and I don't have any issues. My kids love the fruits and vegetables it provides.

Vnsmkr said:

No offense but who gives a fck if the herbs flower same time as the weed

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No offense to what? I don't care if you object.
You cannot separate veg plants from bloom plants in this system. It defeats the purpose of growing the herbs. Herbs usually taste bitter once they flower. How are you going to keep them from flowering? Those cute little pockets aren't going to yield heads of broccoli just like they aren't going to yield large cannabis plants.
It's a great setup for herbs and small plants.
Unless your plants are very small, it will be difficult to use this as a no till, particularly with cannabis.
On the other hand... if you're looking to do a 99-plant grow in a small area... this is your dream machine.

I was thinking more along the lines of loading it with cannabis and those beneficial herbs which keep bugs away and help fight disease. For instance alot of peppermint, catnip, lemon balm, aloe and a whole range of kitchen herbs. Agreed not the best solution for veggies mixed in but so many options....

Were talking about 2 different things. One is companion planting the other is room sharing. Your both right. blooming in this with herbs is counter to what you need to do for edible herbs. So while a good thing to grow in the extra space what you grow and bloom should get used as food for the worms, or mulched in to feed the soil, or smoked. if its something you plan on eating, then you just harvest before you flip. In the case of herbs. Now veggies is different altogether.

Personally im thinking about one to grow that kind of stuff. Pest control, aloe, barley ect ect for my growing. I really like the compost tube. So I could combine my worm farm and my herb garden all into one thing. Right up my alley. I like multiuse things. Saves space.

Used to make 50 gallon drums for strawberry and other plants in the planters with worm composting tube , Surprised not many people growing vertical have not done this See if i can dig up some pictures where i placed to MJ plants for total of like 100 plants in there used 4" rockwell cubes with 2 plants per for each hole then then planted them into organic No till drum

Update Time!
We are around 40 days here. The ladies are really starting to get chunky!
Just to clear up any confusion....no, the root systems (of the Cannabis) are not inhibited or restricted in any way. The health of the Cannabis is obvious. The Basil repels a variety of insects and is said to increase the aroma, as well as the production of essential oils in many (plant) species. Chamomile is said to repel harmful insects as well, but we planted those because they don't use to many resources, are likely to increase the diversity of beneficial organisms in the soil and they make a hell of a Tea.
We will be introducing Earth Worms into the system soon, and they will move about, within the soil itself (rather than remaining in the Tube). Improving the health of the soil, while digesting decaying root matter. (We will be taking a couple towers apart to get a better understanding of the root growth patterns). We plan to empty the Compost Tubes and mix the contents back into the Towers, while harvesting as many Worms as possible, for reintroduction back into the Compost tubes.
We hope to achieve a balance within a few cycles, regulated by the variety of materials introduced into the Tube. We may even try out a crop rotation, planting fast growing N. fixers....
I hope I've answered any questions...I'm pretty stoned right now, so I may have missed something.
Enjoy the Pics!

Nice work, interesting stuff. I'm totally unfamiliar with the organic soil amending techniques you're using. Plants look great!