swedsteven
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Can u try
100 pur
50 calmag
2.5 ks
Pls ur the best
100 pur
50 calmag
2.5 ks
Pls ur the best
Jacks (JR Peters) nutrients
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Skybound420
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When I added in the GH line, I had the Concentrations set to A or B, and best I can tell that worked fine for the 3 part, KoolBloom and silica, but wasn't working for CALiMAGic, Flora Blend, Floralicious Plus and Flora Nectar. For some reason, I am unable to get any of those to compute. I switched the calimagic from B to 100, and it still will not compute it. I'm assuming to get the same failures for the others listed and just not worry about it any further. As far as I am concerned, I was just trying to get a better look at GH, but I had zero intentions of switching back as I already bought into the dry nutes and I like them. I have abundantly more control of the dry composition vs GH. 2 different Ca sources, 2 mag sources, 2 PK sources and I'm right in the middle of everything with the freedom to go up or down. I'll get some Fe to be able to nudge that up if needed as well, but I'm already ahead of GH as I was using 9 components of their line, and now I'm down to 6 components of dry concentrate mixes.
swedsteven
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Cant be im still good on basic math
Npk is more like
With my ratio
Those number are after aplying ratio
Npk pbp ---------- 1 -----3 -2-4
Npk clmag ------1/2 ---1-0-0
Npk potasi su 1/20 ---0-0-2,6
Total ------4-2-6.6
Npk ratio
4-2-6....
My bottle is pure blend pro soil might be another bottle you chose
Npk is more like
With my ratio
Those number are after aplying ratio
Npk pbp ---------- 1 -----3 -2-4
Npk clmag ------1/2 ---1-0-0
Npk potasi su 1/20 ---0-0-2,6
Total ------4-2-6.6
Npk ratio
4-2-6....
My bottle is pure blend pro soil might be another bottle you chose
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PrometheanLeaf
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Anyone using Aptus with jacks 321? I'm curious about doing so myself.
im4satori
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I don't use hydrobuddy
ive had experience with her glitches, so im not going to be able to help with them
I have an excel spread sheet that does the math for me
im4satori
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I don't know what your doing with this math I cant make heads or tails of it and im either not following your logic or your understanding of the math is wrong
and im not going to spend much time debating it, all I can say is im using a calculator and as long as I key the info in properly the results are as good as gold (my calculator doesn't have the issues or glitches that hydro buddy has)
I will add im not even sure why we are going thru the process of trying to equalize your organic nutes to the same sum as the jacks 321... this entire process makes zero sense and provides no useful data or conversation
im sorry
im not trying to be an asshole... I really am happy to help with answering or helping with the conversions
but there is no equivalence or conversion between organic and salt fertilizer
your comparing apples to watermelons
if you want confirmation, go into the organic section and post a thread asking for the organic gurus to answer, they'll tell you the same thing over there quick
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swedsteven
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Ok
I just make a addition of the npk of my 3 bottle and i use the ratio that i use really simple dont need a computer for that just a pen it all good bro u help me enought !@@! Keep it green
I just make a addition of the npk of my 3 bottle and i use the ratio that i use really simple dont need a computer for that just a pen it all good bro u help me enought !@@! Keep it green
im4satori
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if you wanted to switch your nutes out of organic and use the botanicare "kind" nutes we could get you worked up
as for the mix, the way your mixing seems fine is just very weak, you could just mix it the same way in 5 gallons water essentially doubling the mix and consider that a max amount of feed
but organic soil should be gauged for its needs thru soil analysis, you cant tailor the nutes and expect thast to take the place of a soil analysis
you get the soil NPK test kit as a guide and you send your soil out for analysis on occasion to make sure the mineral content is on par
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im4satori
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organic soil should be gauged for its needs thru soil analysis, you cant tailor the nutes and expect that to take the place of a soil analysis
you get the soil NPK test kit as a guide and you send your soil out for analysis on occasion to make sure the mineral content is on par....or you wing it and cross your fingers each time getting a better feel
but organic soils you just load the soils up with organic matter to push the mineral content up for each of the necessary nutritional needs with out excessive heat and then feed the soil biology to create decomposition and the plant will eat from the soil like a fat kid at the buffet until the buffet runs out of food
jacks is a precise soluble salt mix that's specific to the needs of hydro, but is also perfectly great for people growing in soil whom don't care to go organic, this fertilizer has nothing to do with decomposing matter and requires no biology and the process is to extremely different to make the comparisons in the mathematical formulation in the way your trying to do so
you get the soil NPK test kit as a guide and you send your soil out for analysis on occasion to make sure the mineral content is on par....or you wing it and cross your fingers each time getting a better feel
but organic soils you just load the soils up with organic matter to push the mineral content up for each of the necessary nutritional needs with out excessive heat and then feed the soil biology to create decomposition and the plant will eat from the soil like a fat kid at the buffet until the buffet runs out of food
jacks is a precise soluble salt mix that's specific to the needs of hydro, but is also perfectly great for people growing in soil whom don't care to go organic, this fertilizer has nothing to do with decomposing matter and requires no biology and the process is to extremely different to make the comparisons in the mathematical formulation in the way your trying to do so
Skybound420
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I know what you mean, and have changed it from A or B, to 100 and for some reason it still won't compute. I even tried a dose of 10ml/Gal and still all zeros.
swedsteven
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Skybound420
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That was it, that did the trick. Should I revert Concentration back to A or B, or does that not matter?
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Skybound420
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@swedsteven I find this refernce chart I got from satori to be so very helpful when thinking up a regimen. I suggest saving it for your reference. Now that I can reconstruct GH thanks to @nxsov180db I now have a shit load more reference materials, and I'll be able to run everybody's line to get a way better grasp of micro formulations.
im4satori
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looks good
on the 6-3-6 mix you could drop the calmag down to 3mls or leave it
on the 7.5-5.2.5 mix you could lower the kool bloom to 1ml to bring the P/k down some or just leave it
both are in range as they are, you can play around with it and see what you prefer
im4satori
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that's exactly how I learned
I ran all the different brands and seen how they convert and tried lots of different things over many years of lowering this or raising that to find the top and bottom numbers for myself visually
I primarily focused on the macro numbers but im sure theres something to be learned over the micros also but in my experience those are trickier
Skybound420
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I'm just interested in seeing the general ranges. I can refactor the EC as I have years of experience doing that already with this brand. It would be really nice to extend the macros list to also include micros, highs and lows, then once all of that info is collected, myself and others can test those limits in their own experiments and generally eventually settle on what is and is not the actual highs and lows for cannabis.
swedsteven
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It funny when I do the jack 321 i get more phosphor where do the phosphor go ?lol
Skybound420
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swedsteven
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Some of the phosphor just desepear !
Have to be a reason for that
5 -12 - 26 ×3 = 15 -36 -72
+
15 -0 -0 ×2= 30-0-0
=
Total npk 45-36-72 ×2
N90
P72 !!@!!!
K144
Or ×1,5 =
N120
P96
K192
??????????
Cant u tell me why the phosphor is so low if the npk show complete diferent number I keep the NPK ratio and mutiply them to get the desire ppm what do im doing rong
Sorry for my english I speak mostly french
Have to be a reason for that
5 -12 - 26 ×3 = 15 -36 -72
+
15 -0 -0 ×2= 30-0-0
=
Total npk 45-36-72 ×2
N90
P72 !!@!!!
K144
Or ×1,5 =
N120
P96
K192
??????????
Cant u tell me why the phosphor is so low if the npk show complete diferent number I keep the NPK ratio and mutiply them to get the desire ppm what do im doing rong
Sorry for my english I speak mostly french
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Skybound420
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I can't remember where I saw or read, but P2O5 and K2O are refactored somehow in math and are reduced to usable P and K. I believe it was in a video I posted a few pages back, not the greengene's video, but the guy growing veggies in his basement. I think he explains how to refactor P and K. If not that video, than my next guess is Gene's video on mixing Jack's 321.
No worries about broken English, we're mostly Americans and our English is also broken from the original. Just as long as we can generally follow along, all's good.