Jack the Ripper and Pandora's Box looking slightly goofy!

All these plants are vegging under a four foot eight bulb T5 with 6500k tubes. I planted three Jack the Ripper seeds from TGA on 11-28 in Solo cups then transfered them after two weeks above ground to 10 gallon Roots Organic soil bags. Two look like healthy little plants, one however has twisted leafs that are intensely dark on the margins, while the area around the viens is pale. The leaves are much smaller then the other JTR's also. The plant is growing super dense on the bottom then a space between a looser upper growth. The only differences in their environment that I can see is that this sickly looking one has about ten percent more soil in the bag then the other two. I wonder if it didn't get a extra dose of some pH altering additive. Though I would assume everything is premixed and the bags are all loaded with the same mixes, just varying volumes. Here is a couple of pics of the girls (hopefully). They are completely Organic using Roots Organic soil and following the Roots Organic full lineup feeding schedule, at about half strength. I topped each one last week to keep the height down, I have four more weeks till my hermy Silver Haze to finish up in my Flowering tent. The weirdness was the same before topping as after. What ever did this has absolutely no correlation to topping the plant. The first five pics are the sad plant the last two are of my other two Jack the Rippers.



My Pandora's boxes, planted 12-12 broke ground 12-16, also Organic with Roots soil and nutrients using half strength nutrient doses, are little monsters. Their leafs are much heartier then the JTR's though they have a JTR parent, according to TGA. Im concerned about pale green lines running along parts of the leaf, like they were torn and scared. There is also a leaf on each plant with rust colored blotches that don't seem to follow the pattern of veination, just splotches. Is this a Boron deficiency? I have them in 3 gallon bags, I will transfer up to 10 gallon pots as soon as the JTR's go into Flower and give me a little more floor space, under my T5.

Wow that one looks like it has a virus or something like tobacco mosaic, but pH and a deficiency of some kind might be more likely. What kind of water do you use?

Although, it could just be a runt/genetic mutation going on there. Pretty gnarly!

I use Flagstaff, Az tap water. It comes from a limestone aquifier 2000 ft below me. I havent ppm'd it, but Flagstaff water dept says the ppm ranges from 50 to 250 on there website depending where you are in the city, Ph is about 8.0. I let the water bubble with an aerator for 24 hours before adding organic nutrients to it and letting it bubble an additional 24 hours which drops the pH down into the 6's. I've sprayed Neem oil once for gnats. I will stay away from Neem forever now that I hear it causes reproductive harm in woman. I have air blowing on them and the temp ranges from 73 to 83 every day, as my 600 watt bulb in my flower tent kicks on and off through its 12/12 cycle in the same room. I havent sprayed with tobacco juice at all and wouldnt ever dream of touching a cigarette, its been five years for me.

I should have probably posted this in TGA/subcool's subforum in Organics, but I figure General Growing gets more views.

You could try using distilled for a week with some cal-mag for micro and see if it helps.

Good idea, thank you. I just went to the grow shop and they are closed till the second, so I need to wait on it. I just watered them two days ago and they are pretty wet still anyway. Hope that works. Though this plant could be a runt, though I'm not sure if that happens or not in plants. Of course this is the one that's going to go hermie on me now that it looks like its all stressed. I could rip it if it doesn't start looking better after a week. My other plants have got me down, being that every last one went hermski's.Its a male flower yuking pollen all over the females!

bump! that New Years shizz!