Jack Herer & G13 in LPA system, does it look good?????

vapedup

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Hey Vape - just a quick advice on the stretching babies. Just supercrop the main cola all the way down. It will continue to grow fat even if it's hanging straight down - and your hight issue is solved. Do it all the time here since i just do perpetual - some go in - some go out so all plants are in different sizes. I keep high plants in the sides and smaller in the middles.
What's super croping :lol: is that where u snap the branches? Thanks on the. Feedback, I flushed the plant, and things seem to b getting better, we will see
 

Brimi

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What's super croping :lol: is that where u snap the branches? Thanks on the. Feedback, I flushed the plant, and things seem to b getting better, we will see
Hi Vaped - Super cropping is when you bend the branches to make it grow lower. Just pinch the branch flat between two fingers and then carefully bend it without snapping. The bended place will become thicker and even transport more nutrients than other parts. They create a highway these places. ;O).
 

vapedup

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whats up everybody! sorry bout the drought on the update, been busy, still am, but i wanted to get on a show a little update, im at 5 1/2 weeks, still having that yellowing on some leaves. these pics are from this past week, a few today! enjoy! :weed:IMG_6171.jpgIMG_6175.jpgIMG_6173.jpgIMG_6179.jpgIMG_6176.jpgIMG_6172.jpgIMG_6177.jpgIMG_6174.jpgIMG_6178.jpg
 

Brimi

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Hi Vaped - remember that leaves can keep the damage even though problem is solved. So spots on the leaves is not necessarily a sign that plant is still unhappy. Could be in a healing process. As long as problem doesn't get worse i'm sure you'll be very very fine ;O)

Did you see the budder i just made from Jack Herer? - it's probably the most potent cannabis product i ever tried. The smoke is a lot less fat and feels very airy/light compared to more oily extracts. Very very nice products. The best comes when i use hole buds:
Just thought i'd show what to expect if you were to try this. I don't make budder to get higher - i make it to get a clean hit with no contaminates. When i smoke it on ashes bong water stays completely clear for many days:

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This one hit is, by the way, VERY plentyful. Small nugs make the hit more powerful than from a bigger nug. Everything melts down imediately and whole hit ends up where it should.
 

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vapedup

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Hi Vaped - remember that leaves can keep the damage even though problem is solved. So spots on the leaves is not necessarily a sign that plant is still unhappy. Could be in a healing process. As long as problem doesn't get worse i'm sure you'll be very very fine ;O)

Did you see the budder i just made from Jack Herer? - it's probably the most potent cannabis product i ever tried. The smoke is a lot less fat and feels very airy/light compared to more oily extracts. Very very nice products. The best comes when i use hole buds:
Just thought i'd show what to expect if you were to try this. I don't make budder to get higher - i make it to get a clean hit with no contaminates. When i smoke it on ashes bong water stays completely clear for many days:

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This one hit is, by the way, VERY plentyful. Small nugs make the hit more powerful than from a bigger nug. Everything melts down imediately and whole hit ends up where it should.
aww! thanks for the input Brimi, its not spreading so i think it might be good. yea, that budder looks great! think i should break down and make some lol, or some canna butter, but i dont have trim, just nugz
 

Brimi

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aww! thanks for the input Brimi, its not spreading so i think it might be good. yea, that budder looks great! think i should break down and make some lol, or some canna butter, but i dont have trim, just nugz
I have thought about making oil for years. Tried it every now and then - making oil from weak trim - at least always just tried it when i had some very low quality.
Never wanted to use my great Jack Herer that is so potent as is. But after trying making this from my best nugs i just have to give up. It is worth doing with nothing but your best. My gram of budder lasts as long as the 10 grams of Jack would. But now i can take just one more rip and be completely high. And this doesn't give that heavy breathing you get from regular smoking. Try it buddy. I promise you won't regret giving it a go with 20 grams of your best - 2-3 bottles of gas and you got the best you ever tried. My friends are very impressed (but i don't open the buffet for them ;O)
 

vapedup

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i have thought about making oil for years. Tried it every now and then - making oil from weak trim - at least always just tried it when i had some very low quality.
Never wanted to use my great jack herer that is so potent as is. But after trying making this from my best nugs i just have to give up. It is worth doing with nothing but your best. My gram of budder lasts as long as the 10 grams of jack would. But now i can take just one more rip and be completely high. And this doesn't give that heavy breathing you get from regular smoking. Try it buddy. I promise you won't regret giving it a go with 20 grams of your best - 2-3 bottles of gas and you got the best you ever tried. My friends are very impressed (but i don't open the buffet for them ;o)
if i knew how to, i would, i just dont want him to fuck up 3/4 of an oz lol, we will see though!!!
 

Brimi

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A coke bottle is made of PP, so should be very safe to use:
- Melt 5-6 small holes in the cap.
- Melt 1 small hole in the bottom fitting snug a butane bottle.
- Fill bottle with bud - just cut it to fit into the bottle but don't grind it - will leave you with another product. (more oily i think but not better).
- Cut a coffee filter to fit nicely into the cap
- Hold the coke bottle upside down over a pyrex dish (or something heat/cold resistant)
- Fit the gas bottle into the single hole in the bottom and run butane through the bottle and bud
- Use 2 bottles of gas (you can use a last one but put that in another pyrex. This will be just a little tiny but potent darker nug).
- Fit your pyrex into a larger bath with very hot water to make gas boil away.
- When gas is gone whip it good while adding new hot water (not into the budder)
- Suddenly the oily stuff will thicken up and become the more handy waxy budder.

... do it.... just do it ;O)
 

SWUSAZ

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I think maybe they didn't like Ph 5.8 too much? Try lowering it and avoid using plain tap water.
Sweet Budder if in my future also if the ladies do their thing. PH is always in the 5.5 to 5.8 range. I was just reading about pre flushing at intervals to help release the salt buildups and tried with plain water at 5.8 with 3 gallons thru a 5 gallon pot and the output PH was only 6.3 ish. She is trying to recover but the setback was rather poorly timed and she is ending wk 4 of flower. She is starting to show flowering in the hardest hit areas (main trunks) which is nice the tops are preforming very well at present. Lesson learned don't believe everything you read or hear or take the information and use what works for you. I have two clones of that strain in veg so maybe next time things will be different.
 

mrflamboynt

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the past 4 days i've been studying every grow journal i can find..... just by looking at the frostiness and root/plant growth this early on your plant is a good sign.... outstanding! i want to see more journals from aeroponics methods, especially using buckets, so the entire root system is suspended, instead of laying on something. probly HPA is what i want to do.... but need more data before i try anything =)
 

vapedup

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the past 4 days i've been studying every grow journal i can find..... just by looking at the frostiness and root/plant growth this early on your plant is a good sign.... outstanding! i want to see more journals from aeroponics methods, especially using buckets, so the entire root system is suspended, instead of laying on something. probly HPA is what i want to do.... but need more data before i try anything =)
Thanks for stopping in and checking out the grow! Have u ever grown b4?? HPA is mos def the way to go, but cost a lot of money to get right, and a lot of paying attention too, if u already grow and know what ur in for, go for it, but if ur just getting ur feet wet, keep it simple, go for LPA, u can get some killer results, and bud just as good,
 

lordjin

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Thanks for stopping in and checking out the grow! Have u ever grown b4?? HPA is mos def the way to go, but cost a lot of money to get right, and a lot of paying attention too, if u already grow and know what ur in for, go for it, but if ur just getting ur feet wet, keep it simple, go for LPA, u can get some killer results, and bud just as good,
Agree. Learn to grow before messing with HPA.

In fact from what I've seen, even the guys actually doing HPA don't seem to know what they're doing exactly. Most of their discussions are about HPA parts, not a whole lot of growing going on there.

I want to see that one journal from an HPA expert who has grown a plant that is so superior to mine, that all I can think of is spending the money and time to switch to HPA. Haven't seen it yet.
 

boodadood

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Agree. Learn to grow before messing with HPA.

In fact from what I've seen, even the guys actually doing HPA don't seem to know what they're doing exactly. Most of their discussions are about HPA parts, not a whole lot of growing going on there.

I want to see that one journal from an HPA expert who has grown a plant that is so superior to mine, that all I can think of is spending the money and time to switch to HPA. Haven't seen it yet.
those posts with a full grow in HPA seem to be quite eluding, yes....i think we're in the early dawn of a big HPA following however and soon we will see some great pics of our grows...i myself have never grown using HPA but i have plans to build a system for my next grow...i started out LPA and i think im ready for the switch! good advice about starting out simple!

Trichy Bastard has a thread going where he posted some root pics from someone else's HPA journal..thats what gets you...when you see the root mass from an HPA grow its like nothing else out there...now what the top of the plants looks like isnt shown!

im not expecting better bud than my current system when i go to HPA...in fact im expecting much poorer results...its going to take me probably 2 or 3 grows to get things dialed in where i can harvest as much as i do know with LPA...its a difficult challenge and that is what appeals to me and i think what appeals to many who find themselves researching HPA

i started growing to support medi patients and its turned into a hobby that i really enjoy...every system ive grown with has been different from the previous because i keep fiddling with it, making improvements, changes, etc....HPA is a way for me to mesh my interests in setting up and maintaining water systems with my interests in growing

i would venture to say that anyone starting out with HPA has to expect there to be a large learning curve as each system is different just as each strain is different and one cant expect perfect results right away...but with the proper research, materials, approach, and PATIENCE i think an HPA system would outperform any other form of growing there is

again, i have nothing but speculation to back that up with, but its good speculation based on countless hours of research on the matter...there arent many HPA grow journals because people do not want to spend all the time and money on something that will take them years to operate to its maximum potential...but i see it as an opportunity and cant wait to get started

awesome grow btw man ive been checking in every so often
 

lordjin

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those posts with a full grow in HPA seem to be quite eluding, yes....i think we're in the early dawn of a big HPA following however and soon we will see some great pics of our grows...i myself have never grown using HPA but i have plans to build a system for my next grow...i started out LPA and i think im ready for the switch! good advice about starting out simple!

Trichy Bastard has a thread going where he posted some root pics from someone else's HPA journal..thats what gets you...when you see the root mass from an HPA grow its like nothing else out there...now what the top of the plants looks like isnt shown!

im not expecting better bud than my current system when i go to HPA...in fact im expecting much poorer results...its going to take me probably 2 or 3 grows to get things dialed in where i can harvest as much as i do know with LPA...its a difficult challenge and that is what appeals to me and i think what appeals to many who find themselves researching HPA

i started growing to support medi patients and its turned into a hobby that i really enjoy...every system ive grown with has been different from the previous because i keep fiddling with it, making improvements, changes, etc....HPA is a way for me to mesh my interests in setting up and maintaining water systems with my interests in growing

i would venture to say that anyone starting out with HPA has to expect there to be a large learning curve as each system is different just as each strain is different and one cant expect perfect results right away...but with the proper research, materials, approach, and PATIENCE i think an HPA system would outperform any other form of growing there is

again, i have nothing but speculation to back that up with, but its good speculation based on countless hours of research on the matter...there arent many HPA grow journals because people do not want to spend all the time and money on something that will take them years to operate to its maximum potential...but i see it as an opportunity and cant wait to get started

awesome grow btw man ive been checking in every so often
Thanks for the compliment.

Honestly, bro? That shit looks difficult. I get the concept and understand how it could potentially exceed your current yield with a fraction of the nute usage, but the learning curve seems daunting.

Sorry for the threadjack, vape. I'm done now.
 

Slivers

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Subbed in for the ride. Looks good so far, interested to know if you had root rot or not... or if the h202 worked out for you?
 
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