Jack Herer, Arjan's Haze, or AK47 ?

Which of these sativa hybrids do you guys favor based on potency, type and longevity of buzz, and yield? Any other sativa hybrids (not too tall) that you may recommend as better than these? I want a buzz that I can really immerse myself in hobbies/activities but also it has to be a very very strong, noticeable buzz....Thanks in advance for the help

Dont grow Jack

i prefer arjans haze over jack, the high is a bit less foggy and i found it more "up" than jack. there were a few times i'd smoke jack herer and lose motivation to go out and do stuff, whereas arjans haze got me more stoked about getting shit done and made my day seem more interesting.

i'm also someone who smokes all day long so stuff like that was important to me.

AK47 is one of my all time favorites. I have some in flower right now. However, no way in hell I could smoke what I grow and go to work...unless I got paid for drooling!

I have never grown Jack Herer but what I smoked was really nice. I plan on trying to grow some in the near future but I like the high of AK47 better but thats just me.

I would like to reccomend you look at Kali Mist from Serious Seeds. Now THAT, is a great smoke that will allow you to work hard, get things accomplished but you will laugh your ass off while doing so. Kali Mist is the only strain that I simply can't do without. I like my Diesel...my AK47...my White Widow and my Kush but I will never be without Kali Mist. It will always be a part of my personal stash.

is your kali mist pre or post 98? i know that they did some more work on the strain and most people prefer the original.

if youre interested in kali mist i would say check out western winds, which is the pre98 kali - also i know that rez just did some work on quick kali (sp?) and it finishes up a lot quicker while retaining the original flavor/high.

Rocky Top High said:

AK47 is one of my all time favorites. I have some in flower right now. However, no way in hell I could smoke what I grow and go to work...unless I got paid for drooling!

I have never grown Jack Herer but what I smoked was really nice. I plan on trying to grow some in the near future but I like the high of AK47 better but thats just me.

I would like to reccomend you look at Kali Mist from Serious Seeds. Now THAT, is a great smoke that will allow you to work hard, get things accomplished but you will laugh your ass off while doing so. Kali Mist is the only strain that I simply can't do without. I like my Diesel...my AK47...my White Widow and my Kush but I will never be without Kali Mist. It will always be a part of my personal stash.

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Thanks a ton for the input....I really don't smoke til after work so I guess I was looking for a strain that gets me super-into big football games, UFC fights, etc; and produces a strong giggly euphoric buzz. Is Kali Mist very strong effect wise (and how's the yield?) The only bad thing I've heard about Arjan's is that the buds can be quite leafy or "grassy" and not really solid and "nuglike".(I've also heard great stuff too)

On a side note: I'm also planning on growing a good heavy medicinal indica to soothe sore muscles/kill pain (but doesn't make you super super tired and out of it) - any suggestions?

littlekidlover said:

is your kali mist pre or post 98? i know that they did some more work on the strain and most people prefer the original.

if youre interested in kali mist i would say check out western winds, which is the pre98 kali - also i know that rez just did some work on quick kali (sp?) and it finishes up a lot quicker while retaining the original flavor/high.

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It's post 98. I never smoked the pre 98 so I don't know what I am missing.

+rep to you for the heads up on Western Wind. I was going to be placing an order for Kali Mist around November but I will give Western Wind a try. I assume you have smoked both?

To me, Quick Kali is an oxymoron...

MOONSTAR8595

I am a HUGE college football fan and I am sitting here watching WWF Faber vs Pulver...what a great fuckin fight!!!!! Anyway, Kali Mist is type of smoke that the molre you smoke the higher you get. It has NO ceiling! If you want just a small buzz, no problem...you want to get ripped, no problem. It is such a cerebral high. I swear, I believe you could OD on Kali Mist. I don't gush over to many strains but Kali Mist is top shelf.

The buds are dense but not rock hard and the yield is as good as most. I usually get 2 zips per plant on most of my strains and I get close to that with Kali. Not quite but close.

If you want huge, freakin rock hard buds then AK47 would be a great choice. I get my biggest yields on AK47 and the buds are huge (at least huge for me). My friends have no idea I grow it and it is funny as hell to listen to them talk about how it was grown and they are positive it is hydro. Funny thing is, I grow in soil.

Rocky Top High said:

It's post 98. I never smoked the pre 98 so I don't know what I am missing.

+rep to you for the heads up on Western Wind. I was going to be placing an order for Kali Mist around November but I will give Western Wind a try. I assume you have smoked both?

To me, Quick Kali is an oxymoron...

MOONSTAR8595

I am a HUGE college football fan and I am sitting here watching WWF Faber vs Pulver...what a great fuckin fight!!!!! Anyway, Kali Mist is type of smoke that the molre you smoke the higher you get. It has NO ceiling! If you want just a small buzz, no problem...you want to get ripped, no problem. It is such a cerebral high. I swear, I believe you could OD on Kali Mist. I don't gush over to many strains but Kali Mist is top shelf.

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Cool, I'm very intrigued by the Kali now...Is it a tall plant? Will it grow well under the same light (haven't bought it yet but either 600 or 1000) as the medicinal indica I want to grow also? And finally, is the yield pretty respectable? Thanks a WHOLE lot in advance......

A 600 or a 1000 watter will be perfect. I use a 400 and get very good results. The first time I ever smoked Kali was being grown under a 600. The buds were very resin filled and it had such a great flavor. This is the truth...One of the reasons I started growing my own was so I could grow Kali Mist. It is THAT good.

Rocky Top High said:

A 600 or a 1000 watter will be perfect. I use a 400 and get very good results. The first time I ever smoked Kali was being grown under a 600. The buds were very resin filled and it had such a great flavor. This is the truth...One of the reasons I started growing my own was so I could grow Kali Mist. It is THAT good.

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Excellent my friend. I think I've made my mind up on one of the strains.. By chance could you recommend a good powerful painkilling mostly indica (suffer from rheumatoid arthritis). Some I've seen that interested me have been White Russian(22% THC), Matunuska Tundra (killer creeper with chocolate taste), G13 Hashplant (supposed to be great indica), and various Kush strains (can't find OG at Attitude). I want a real kick ass buzz (long lasting too) and superb pain relief but not something that gets me too sleepy or zombie-like. Thanks again for your input, much appreciated.

AK-47 hands down. Ive tried all three and ak is by far the most potent. As far as yield per plant, grow time, etc... i have no idea.

SORRY - its actually sagamartha that made Kwik Kali, rez just put out apollo mist - using pre98 kali mist, i got confused.

i'm honestly not sure which kali mist i smoked - i think either way its probably a topshelf strain, but people who have smoked the original seem to prefer it. i really want to do a grow with western winds but i havent seen it available at a seedbank i'm familiar with.

Looked up those seeds and they're $20 a piece, I'm sorry but that's just insane. If the original breeders would make seeds affordable they wouldn't have to deal with all the people buying their seeds to copy their strain. If you could buy the original seed at a reasonable price you'd do that before buying a cheap knock-off.

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And now of course I want to buy some expensive damn seeds...

i've been thinking about kali mist. i hear it can get really tall, does anyone know if it responds well to being topped. i've heard that it's not good to top certain strains.

I have never topped Kali but I do start flower when it is about 8 inches tall. It has always been a very manageable plant for me but you must not let it go crazy in veg.

my bro went to the dam and said jack herer was not that dank compared to super silver haze or amnesia but evryoen other then him says its the best but i believe him he knows his shit

oh yeuah but definately go with arjans ultra haze number one its the dankest sativa in history i think that meens its good
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i wouldnt grow jack herer my brother smoked it in amsterdam and laughed at its nothign compared to the otehr types he said the best was supersilver haze jack herer is like nameless american seedless funk

MOONSTAR8595 said:

Excellent my friend. I think I've made my mind up on one of the strains.. By chance could you recommend a good powerful painkilling mostly indica (suffer from rheumatoid arthritis). Some I've seen that interested me have been White Russian(22% THC), Matunuska Tundra (killer creeper with chocolate taste), G13 Hashplant (supposed to be great indica), and various Kush strains (can't find OG at Attitude). I want a real kick ass buzz (long lasting too) and superb pain relief but not something that gets me too sleepy or zombie-like. Thanks again for your input, much appreciated.

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matanuska tundra also known as alaskan thunder fuck is the best shit on earth period ive had it all i mean damn near every major strain and atf is the best shit on earth hands down period dot end of discussion