I've killed them all, I'm afraid!

Well, everything started out good, I was minding my p's and q's, then I started getting a little crazy with my watering. I thought it was too much nutes, but 5 gal buckets don't lie. should have been watering every 2 weeks, or 10 days, not 4-5 days, leds don't put out too much heat, even though the room got to 96 at times it was basically the hottest 91, at pot height was around 70. Can I save whats left? I already flushed last time with an h2o2 35% mad farmer mixed at 1ml per gal, 2 gals per plant then drained thouroughly. (that was the other problem, letting them sit in runoff from overwatering) so I thought maybe for most of them that haven't turned light brown and dried up I could just transplant to fresh soil after rinsing the roots in something? I've got superthrive, the h2o2, bioweed, diamond nectar on hand, any help out there?

The one out of the pot is a blue dream that had been doing fine, one shot with roots dirty then I washed them off. Anything I can do to fix them or is it too late. I have started more seeds, believe me a whole new regimen this time around, but i was thinking if I transplanted to fresh soil, no nutes, ffof/happyfrog/perlite, no nutes just water? They are at 3 weeks flowering, and the last week and a half, maybe the last 3 or 4 waterings I was screwing the ph up with a meter that was reading high 2 whole points (instead of 6.5 they were getting 4-4.5, yeah! ) So any suggestions? nutes have been OC+/DMred with silica, calmag+, diamond nectar, bioweed,

Pics... how far along are you in the grow? Sounds like a transplant to fresh soil and a small watering. Has the soil at the bottom of the pots turned to muck?

transplanting will create a shock that could kill them all by themselves.. make sure you have holes in bottom of of pots so any excess water runs off. It will dry by itself esp with the fans on them. Overwatering is the #1 problem with these plants.

You need to get the tempature down also. Over 85 and they are not happy at all and if your over 90f you got some serious problems there also. 63-83 is maxes you should keep it within.. if it hits the 50s on the low end, mabe at nite if your in the north and they actually shut down production and they may need 2-3 days to start up again.

secretweapon said:

Pics... how far along are you in the grow? Sounds like a transplant to fresh soil and a small watering. Has the soil at the bottom of the pots turned to muck?

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No muck, i line the bottom with 2" perlite, I am 3 weeks into flowering. I watered to drain, always, but let them set in the trays in the water until I thought they were dry enough to water again, but I get frigging eager to "help" so it ended up getting watered every 4 days at the most. I really don't think it's too much heat because the 96 is right at the light fixture, just 3 inches from that and its maybe 91, and the room as a whole is pretty good, about 85 at canopy and 75 at root level, have two fans blowing thru plants and up thru light. I am using OC+ nutes, along with DM Red top fed with some mater magic. I'm afraid its a combo overnute/overwater, have a super lemon haze and a strawberry haze i really want to save. I can't see the temps being that bad, maybe if it was like 10%rh or something like that, but in central cali it gets alot hotter than that. Maybe need more fresh air in?

Dead.............

Did you say you fed them with 4.5 pH, and for 3 or 4 waterings, YIKES....... Also 91-96 degrees is too hot.

I think you fried these plants. Sorry to say.

Obviously ones pulled out are done, but the ones under the LED's I can't see well enough to tell if there is any chance of revival, but from what I see, getting new stock going might be a better choice. Find yourself some clones if you can, from a trusted source if at all possible.

That's what I would do myself.

Devildog93 said:

Did you say you fed them with 4.5 pH, and for 3 or 4 waterings, YIKES....... Also 91-96 degrees is too hot.

I think you fried these plants. Sorry to say.

Obviously ones pulled out are done, but the ones under the LED's I can't see well enough to tell if there is any chance of revival, but from what I see, getting new stock going might be a better choice. Find yourself some clones if you can, from a trusted source if at all possible.

That's what I would do myself.

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there are no clones where I am, its seed or no seed. This is what they look like - the strawberry haze, blue mystic look good considering, super lemon haze is close to kicking the bucket too. I'm wondering if another shot of h2o2? I have more seed, not as good as these were but decent. the temps are only at 91 for about an hour or two, SOMETIMES, towards the end of the light cycle, it depends on the temps inside the house. It has peaked at 96, but I think that was because I left the meter in the wrong place. otherwise its not bad and plenty of air movement, at the canopy it gets to maybe 88.

lbezphil2005 said:

there are no clones where I am, its seed or no seed. This is what they look like - the strawberry haze, blue mystic look good considering, super lemon haze is close to kicking the bucket too. I'm wondering if another shot of h2o2? I have more seed, not as good as these were but decent. the temps are only at 91 for about an hour or two, SOMETIMES, towards the end of the light cycle, it depends on the temps inside the house. It has peaked at 96, but I think that was because I left the meter in the wrong place. otherwise its not bad and plenty of air movement, at the canopy it gets to maybe 88.

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The LED purple made the still potted plants look worse than they do in these pics. You can maybe still save them. I would flush with proper pH'd water......maybe a little highrer than normal.....at say 6.8 or 7.0

Try and bring those temps down if you can though. I try to run mine absolute MAX at 85 degrees. 75-78 is the zone I like and have had great success with.

Keeping a more temperate lights on time helps prevent big swings in temp when lights off......and I have found, the smaller the diff between lights on and lights off, the tighter the internodes were on the plants. Less stretching, more compact buds.

I can't guarantee what your end results will be, or how long they may take to come areound. But they may.

I don't know why everyone is so focused on heat. The roots on these plants NEVER get above 74 degrees. The canopy never, never gets above like 95, in nature every pot plant in the world would die every year, especially in the central valley in california. The closetjust doesnt seem that hot! its the damn screwed up water that was fed them for a month, killed the roots plain and simple, from what I see, too much water, too much nutes, not enough o2 to do anything with, in nature there is a 20 degree swing at least every day, if not a heck of a lot more.