I really wish there was a dislike or negative rep button so i could use it on OldGrowth420, people should be warned of who they are having a conversation with, this is a forum a place to go to talk about an idea or subject, its not a place to go around copying and pasting from scripture that is meaningless to 90% of the people you are talking to, i would love to have a conversation or debate with you OldGrowth but in order to do that you would have to have an original thought in your head... After reading that last post where dude got HULKMAD i realized this is going a bit far on the atheist end, i know people like this closed minded OldGrowth420 douche bag tend to set people off but come on guys lets not turn our selves into what we hate "self righteous ideological zealots", there are enough of them to go around already...