It's A Fuct World
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Al B. Fuct
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That's not the only qwazy thing about the southern hemisphere. Stargazing northern hemi natives will immediately notice that the moon appears rotated about 60 degrees (depending upon your original northerly latitude & southerly latitude perspectives) counterclockwise. The moon (and sun, for that matter) traverses an arc across the northern sky, effectively from right to left, as opposed to the left to right apparent motion as viewed from the northern hemisphere. And it gets weirder when looking at constellations visible from both hemispheres...
So, back on topic. Very happy so far with the STG Hail 1" cubes.
Unlike rockwool, STG cubes are safe to handle without gloves. STG does not escape pot drain holes & make a mess in trays & tanks like Fytocell. You can keep Fytocell from escaping pots by putting a thin layer of rockwool floc in the bottom of the pots, but this alters the drainage & water holding characters of Fytocell. STG does not hold as much water as Fytocell, so it can be flooded 2x (or more when plants have gotten large) per lights-on cycle. I have yet to run plants through an entire flowering cycle in the stuff yet, but so far, it looks really promising.
Don't know how much the stuff costs, but even if it's a bit more expensive than Fytocell, it'd be worth it for the ease of handling & cleanliness factors alone.
bigwood111
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STG is very pricey. I think it would cost at least twice as much if not three times as much as the fytocell.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
I get Fytocell for about $55/100L. After sampling some prices online, I think STG will come in about $75/100L, but we'll see.
Being in the US I have never given much thought about this, but it makes perfect sense. It would seem odd seeing the sun going from "right to left".
Cheers.
Al B. Fuct
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Yep, got some pricing on STG... about what I'd guessed. Loose fill version is about 30% cheaper than cubes. Loose fill STG is somewhat less expensive per L than Fytocell. Would like to get a bag of that to try out.
ANC
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P.S the light is in, timer programed for 12/12 I just need to throw some clones under the light now, as soon as I get some feedback...
Also still doing a dryrun tonight to check temps....Don't have an extractor for the room yet, but I ductaped a small fan to the intake of my cooltube and rand the outlet into the ceiling.
Ducting on one isde is hot on the other it is cold, so I think its kinda working somewhat. The glass tube still gets quite hot, maybe 60 or 70C by the thumb-test, maybe hotter even.
Will buy another controler shortly, that runs a fan and a heater to keep temp and humidity in a 5 degree range. But its another $40. I have for the sake of my sanity stoped doing sums as I buy shit for the op.
Also still doing a dryrun tonight to check temps....Don't have an extractor for the room yet, but I ductaped a small fan to the intake of my cooltube and rand the outlet into the ceiling.
Ducting on one isde is hot on the other it is cold, so I think its kinda working somewhat. The glass tube still gets quite hot, maybe 60 or 70C by the thumb-test, maybe hotter even.
Will buy another controler shortly, that runs a fan and a heater to keep temp and humidity in a 5 degree range. But its another $40. I have for the sake of my sanity stoped doing sums as I buy shit for the op.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
About 400-500mm.
If a cooltube or duct gets warm to the touch, you need more fan power or fewer restrictions in the airflow path.
You need at least a thermostat to control the intake & exhaust fans. If you're running a dehumidifier, it can run on a timer to coincide with lights-off hours, when humidity tends to spike. During lights-on, the heat from lights will trigger the thermostat; frequent ventilation should keep humidity in check.
Yes, starting up a new op is exxy, but if you buy the right stuff, you'll buy it once & use the op for years- and you most certainly will recover your investment.
ANC
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Thanks Al, so far room is running about 18C in the morning to 23C by shutoff.
It is pretty small, the whole room is about 9-10 cubic meters of which a 3rd is boarded off as my wife's laundry.
Its so nice and warm to go into, fekking freezing in the winter mornings. Will obviously be a problem in summer, but I will store for the warm, months rather than the other way round I've always been doing.
I just came in from sitting in the sun, cleaning a small 200gph water pump to try and make an areocloner thingy.... it's just too cold to stick clones into media at the moment, after almost 4 weeks, I have 0 roots.
I have a bucket with a sealing lid, an aquarium heater, a 35mm drill and some plugs I cut off from a piece of swimmingpool noodle. Think I'll melt the centre hole with a long warm nail, and then make a cut through to it to attach the clones.
Will have to go read your howto for the 10th time now to go check things like water level, nuteing etc.
It is pretty small, the whole room is about 9-10 cubic meters of which a 3rd is boarded off as my wife's laundry.
Its so nice and warm to go into, fekking freezing in the winter mornings. Will obviously be a problem in summer, but I will store for the warm, months rather than the other way round I've always been doing.
I just came in from sitting in the sun, cleaning a small 200gph water pump to try and make an areocloner thingy.... it's just too cold to stick clones into media at the moment, after almost 4 weeks, I have 0 roots.
I have a bucket with a sealing lid, an aquarium heater, a 35mm drill and some plugs I cut off from a piece of swimmingpool noodle. Think I'll melt the centre hole with a long warm nail, and then make a cut through to it to attach the clones.
Will have to go read your howto for the 10th time now to go check things like water level, nuteing etc.
ANC
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Has been a busy day, including makeing a cast of my wife's belly along with baby's godparents, but got a 15 site cloner finished tonight with a glass of pink bubbly to celebrate the cloner...
Tommorrow morning I'll try a new run of clones. I hope she is born tommorrow, then we will share a birthday, and it is also her godparent' wedding aniversary. Such good vibes for a blessed new grow.
Tommorrow morning I'll try a new run of clones. I hope she is born tommorrow, then we will share a birthday, and it is also her godparent' wedding aniversary. Such good vibes for a blessed new grow.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
Whew. Finally a moment to breathe.
New ballasts (really only needed new capacitors, but meh) are paying off in spades. Yields are back up to about .75z/plant, nice lumpy, dense buds.
Also have started using Canna PK1314 again since Canna have posted some good instructions on how to use it. With past instructions, I was consistently getting nute burn. Did one batch at 1ml/L for week 5 only (along with 3ml/L Canna Flores) and saw a nice improvement in yield with no nute burn. However, I usually run a tank for 2 weeks and thought dumping a tank of PK & Flores after 1 week & mixing up another tank of straight Flores for only week 6 was a bit wasteful. So, ran the next batch in tray 3 on PK + Flores for weeks 5 & 6. No nute burn so far. Looking pretty good, will let you know how the yields go.
New ballasts (really only needed new capacitors, but meh) are paying off in spades. Yields are back up to about .75z/plant, nice lumpy, dense buds.
Also have started using Canna PK1314 again since Canna have posted some good instructions on how to use it. With past instructions, I was consistently getting nute burn. Did one batch at 1ml/L for week 5 only (along with 3ml/L Canna Flores) and saw a nice improvement in yield with no nute burn. However, I usually run a tank for 2 weeks and thought dumping a tank of PK & Flores after 1 week & mixing up another tank of straight Flores for only week 6 was a bit wasteful. So, ran the next batch in tray 3 on PK + Flores for weeks 5 & 6. No nute burn so far. Looking pretty good, will let you know how the yields go.
Shwagbag
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Good to hear Al, lumpy dense nugz with the stanks make me all warm and fuzzy.
Holy Fuct, this thread is still going a year later. Al I'm back living in Arizona and enjoying my states medical MJ laws. 
Two things that really sucks about Arizona though is the super hot summers and the price gouging my electric company does. As such my question is, what is your opinion on the 12/1 light cycle for vegetative growth? Does it over stress the plant? If you have tried this method, did you notice a larger node spacing? Seems to me the cost saving in not running my ac or lights for a few hours might be worth trying this method even if i have to use some more light for supplemental purposes to stop node stretching. Let me know what you think. Also to anyone else that reads this please try to save the "this method is crazy" comments etc, I have seen this method discussed in year one horticulture books for 10+ years and its been employed by the commercial flower company's for years. So please save your breath and time on trying to bash this grow technique. However if you have real life experience and know about real life results in regards to power savings, plant stress or node length numbers then please feel free to reply. Thank you, NoOne
Two things that really sucks about Arizona though is the super hot summers and the price gouging my electric company does. As such my question is, what is your opinion on the 12/1 light cycle for vegetative growth? Does it over stress the plant? If you have tried this method, did you notice a larger node spacing? Seems to me the cost saving in not running my ac or lights for a few hours might be worth trying this method even if i have to use some more light for supplemental purposes to stop node stretching. Let me know what you think. Also to anyone else that reads this please try to save the "this method is crazy" comments etc, I have seen this method discussed in year one horticulture books for 10+ years and its been employed by the commercial flower company's for years. So please save your breath and time on trying to bash this grow technique. However if you have real life experience and know about real life results in regards to power savings, plant stress or node length numbers then please feel free to reply. Thank you, NoOne
tyler.durden
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Hey, Al! So you sprung for new ballasts, huh? Did you go digital or stay with magnetic?
Not to be mean but google or a search on here would have netted you an answer. I didn't explain it on purpose cause people love to respond with its crazy etc. 12/1 is simple, 12 hours of light on 5.5 hours of light off 1 hour light on and 5.5 hours of light off. This gives you nearly the least amount of hours to have your lights on in a given day and keep the plant vegetating.
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