It Pisses Me Off...

DelSlow

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If you want to level the playing field, why not use a device that creates a large EMP? Think it's possible?
 

medicineman

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Yea my dyslexia kicking into full gear there. I never said the founding fathers were angels, I believe just the opposite. So did they that’s why we ended up with the system of government we have.

The average Jos Schmoe was the majority of the people fighting the British. I don’t think there were that many evil rich people around. Valley Forge was full of rich people I guess. It’s only rich vs. poor because that’s how you choose to see things my friend. I’ve worked in the granite industry for the last 10 or so years and all I can say is thank God for rich people. Thanks to them I’ve been able to provide for my family. So hate on man, live that bitter life.

Jingoism, in my post? I don’t think so. I know anytime anyone has anything good to say about America it upsets you but not all Americans hate where they live. I’m glad to be an American and wouldn’t trade my citizenship for another but it sounds like you may want to apply for British citizenship maybe you’ll be able to get that chip off your shoulder.
Well, at least you fessed up to the founding fathers being rich assholes. Now let's look at history for my contingency that it has always been rich VS Poor. How far back do you want to go, cave men? Reason tells us that the biggest toughest bad ass cave man would have the best of everything, best food, best cave, best pussy, I wonder if the other "poorer" Cave men wanted to oust his furry ass? Marie Antonette, let them eat cake, and they stormed the bastille, the royality in Russia, they stormed the palace and cut off their heads, I know, the proletariate in this country aren't fed up enough yet, but a day will come where you will have to choose sides. Maybe you enjoy being a lackey to the rich guys that you mine granite for their palaces for a pittance, survival money, and maybe you make a damn good living, but to say you owe it to rich guys is just goofy. Do you ever wonder how the rich guys got rich?, I'll bet one of them owns that mine you work in. What I'm all about is excessive riches, Multi millions and billions, With people starving and losing their homes at record rates, why did our government give 80,000 to the average millionaire in tax breaks. that is just fucking wrong. What they gave to the rich could have funded medicare for all for the same period of time, plus reduced the deficit a little, or if they just applied it to the budget, we wouldn't have a 50 Billion dollar budget deficit this year. The idea that we owe our existence to the rich is ludachris, Keep drinking the koolaid.
 

NoDrama

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Wow med, your understanding of History is totally wack. Marie Antoinette isn't the one who said "let them eat cake" and The Tsar of Russia and his family ( the Romanov) were shot, not decapitated. But it sure makes for good reading huh?
 

medicineman

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Wow med, your understanding of History is totally wack. Marie Antoinette isn't the one who said "let them eat cake" and The Tsar of Russia and his family ( the Romanov) were shot, not decapitated. But it sure makes for good reading huh?
Poetic lisence, My memory isin't what it one was, but the effect is there, right? Yeah, I was trying to remember their names, Romanovs, yeah boy, You got me. BTW, don't you think you've ridden that horse with my spelling (actually was an online dictionarys spelling, go figure), long enough?
Not bitching just curious. If that is all you can come up with for my stupid mistakes, you really aren't that observant, I've made a passle of them.
 

doc111

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Oh no, I know about nukes, but I meant some other "thing" that would disable all tech weapons without destroying everything else.
I believe they have nuclear devices that detonate at a really high altitude, minimizing damage, casualties, etc., but still putting off EMP. The problem is that an EMP strong enough to disable most electronic devices requires an enormous release of energy. There have been rumors of an EMP "device" that doesn't explode, but it's not very likely that such a device exists with our current technology. The military shields most of its electronics from EMP anyways.:sad:
 

BudMcLovin

Active Member
Well, at least you fessed up to the founding fathers being rich assholes. Now let's look at history for my contingency that it has always been rich VS Poor. How far back do you want to go, cave men? Reason tells us that the biggest toughest bad ass cave man would have the best of everything, best food, best cave, best pussy, I wonder if the other "poorer" Cave men wanted to oust his furry ass? Marie Antonette, let them eat cake, and they stormed the bastille, the royality in Russia, they stormed the palace and cut off their heads, I know, the proletariate in this country aren't fed up enough yet, but a day will come where you will have to choose sides. Maybe you enjoy being a lackey to the rich guys that you mine granite for their palaces for a pittance, survival money, and maybe you make a damn good living, but to say you owe it to rich guys is just goofy. Do you ever wonder how the rich guys got rich?, I'll bet one of them owns that mine you work in. What I'm all about is excessive riches, Multi millions and billions, With people starving and losing their homes at record rates, why did our government give 80,000 to the average millionaire in tax breaks. that is just fucking wrong. What they gave to the rich could have funded medicare for all for the same period of time, plus reduced the deficit a little, or if they just applied it to the budget, we wouldn't have a 50 Billion dollar budget deficit this year. The idea that we owe our existence to the rich is ludachris, Keep drinking the koolaid.
I doubt the founding fathers were any more of an asshole than you or I. They were just men you know.
I know how most rich people get that way in America. They work for it.

“1. According to a study of Federal Reserve data conducted by NYU professor Edward Wolff, for the nation’s richest 1%, inherited wealth accounted for only 9% of their net worth in 2001, down from 23% in 1989. (The 2001 number was the latest available.)

2. According to a study by Prince & Associates, less than 10% of today’s multi-millionaires cited “inheritance” as their source of wealthLINK

Oh and I don’t owe them anything. The man I worked for paid me an agreed upon wage for my efforts. He isn’t a rich man yet but he will be in about 5 or 6 more years if he keeps on keeping on. A year ago I left to pursue another degree because my chosen profession doesn’t pay enough. One day I’ll make enough in my new profession to be hated by people like you for no other reason than I got off my dead ass and did something. Well as long as I don’t take a dirt nap anytime soon.

A lot of people that lost their homes bought houses they couldn’t afford. My wife is currently the one working while I stay at home and take care of our new baby and finish my degree. We own our home and have no problem making paying our bills. Our cars are paid for, no credit card debt, we don’t have holes in our clothes. We are doing fine because we live within our means, it's not always easy but we're alright.

How do you give someone their own money? I know how the government steals it and uses it on feel good programs. People are always going to starve in the street, some people will always quite at everything they do, and the world will always need ditch diggers.
 

NoDrama

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Poetic lisence, My memory isin't what it one was, but the effect is there, right? Yeah, I was trying to remember their names, Romanovs, yeah boy, You got me. BTW, don't you think you've ridden that horse with my spelling (actually was an online dictionarys spelling, go figure), long enough?
Not bitching just curious. If that is all you can come up with for my stupid mistakes, you really aren't that observant, I've made a passle of them.
haha you make stupid spelling mistakes all the time, (you made 4 of them in your post..License,Isn't,Dictionaries, and Passel). I don't usually call you out for them unless its funnier than all get out. If you use Mozilla Firefox as your internet browser ( Free download takes 3 minutes) you can have a good spellchecker that actually works and underlines your misspelled words as you type them. try it, it works. Anyways I usually like peoples posts to at the very least be factually correct, and Ive been known to ruffle a few feathers in bringing that to peoples attention. Just one of my many personality flaws.
 

Padawanbater2

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even if that were the case, as history shows us it most certainly is not, the fact that it would be a matter of civil war should be taken into account. what percentage of the military do you suppose would choose to support an armed rebellion against a tyrannical government? the first blows in such a movement may be doomed, but they would emphasize how dangerous a government is that would use its troops against its own citizens. our military is not the monolithic unit it is made out to be, it is still make up of citizens who would use their own consciences to decide which side to back.
I was saying if it was the US military v. all the rest of the US civilians. That's it.

If that was the case, all the US military personnel would completely dominate the battlefield.

You, jeff and your 12 gauge shotguns and 9mm's wont stand a chance. They have TANKS guys, and FIGHTER JETS, what could you possibly do against something like that?

I find it odd that it would be exactly the same as the current insurgency, and yet our military is winning that fight, according to jeff, yet if it were American civilians doing the exact same thing against the exact same military, the insurgency would succeed...
 

Rob Roy

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The hardest thing for an army to kill is an idea. Teach, live and spread ideas of liberty. Without that, there will be no freedom, only a change in masters.
 

NoDrama

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I was saying if it was the US military v. all the rest of the US civilians. That's it.

If that was the case, all the US military personnel would completely dominate the battlefield.

You, jeff and your 12 gauge shotguns and 9mm's wont stand a chance. They have TANKS guys, and FIGHTER JETS, what could you possibly do against something like that?

I find it odd that it would be exactly the same as the current insurgency, and yet our military is winning that fight, according to jeff, yet if it were American civilians doing the exact same thing against the exact same military, the insurgency would succeed...
Thats funny, we had tanks, helicopters, jets, bombs , napalm, agent orange in VIETNAM. we had to fight pajama wearing ak-47 toting handful of rice a week eating poor people and got our asses kicked. We had to emergency evacuate from the country before we got totally overrun by pajama wearing little Asian people. Keep dreaming that the military is going to send 20 million dollars worth of hardware out to kill a single person. That plan would FAIL in 1 week as the military ran out of resources to fuel the assault. Padawan, I respect you, but you don't know jack shit about the military or military procedures.

As far as "Winning" In afghan and Iraq, well we haven't gotten the 25,000 Taliban and terrorists yet, so far its been 10 years and we are still fighting the original 25,000. So lets extrapolate that data and say that the military is going to have to fight just the armed people in the USA, so 1.5million vs 100 million. If it takes a decade to fight 25,000 , it will take 400,000 years to fight 100 million.
 

medicineman

New Member
haha you make stupid spelling mistakes all the time, (you made 4 of them in your post..License,Isn't,Dictionaries, and Passel). I don't usually call you out for them unless its funnier than all get out. If you use Mozilla Firefox as your internet browser ( Free download takes 3 minutes) you can have a good spellchecker that actually works and underlines your misspelled words as you type them. try it, it works. Anyways I usually like peoples posts to at the very least be factually correct, and Ive been known to ruffle a few feathers in bringing that to peoples attention. Just one of my many personality flaws.
Actually, just googled Marie Antoinette, and let them eat cake: Although they are commonly attributed to Queen Marie Antoinette,[1] there is no record of these words ever having been uttered by her. They appear in Jean-Jacques Rousseau's Confessions, his putative autobiographical work (completed in 1769, when Marie Antoinette was 13), where he wrote the following in Book 6:
Commonly attributed are the key words. I guess it's folklore.
 

NoDrama

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Actually, just googled Marie Antoinette, and let them eat cake: Although they are commonly attributed to Queen Marie Antoinette,[1] there is no record of these words ever having been uttered by her. They appear in Jean-Jacques Rousseau's Confessions, his putative autobiographical work (completed in 1769, when Marie Antoinette was 13), where he wrote the following in Book 6:
Commonly attributed are the key words. I guess it's folklore.
Lots of things are commonly attributed, doesn't make it any more true. Like the old wives tale that if you shave your legs the hairs grow back thicker, well that BS, they don't grow back any thicker at all. Just because 90% of women believe it to be true still doesn't MAKE it true. Just like hot water will freeze faster than cold water when placed in your freezer, just BS, but you find plenty of people to believe it. Likewise you believe Marie said "let them Eat cake" even though after you did research you find out that isn't true at all, and then to legitimize your mistake you come up with the argument that " Well every one else thinks its true, so its good enough for me".
 

medicineman

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Lots of things are commonly attributed, doesn't make it any more true. Like the old wives tale that if you shave your legs the hairs grow back thicker, well that BS, they don't grow back any thicker at all. Just because 90% of women believe it to be true still doesn't MAKE it true. Just like hot water will freeze faster than cold water when placed in your freezer, just BS, but you find plenty of people to believe it. Likewise you believe Marie said "let them Eat cake" even though after you did research you find out that isn't true at all, and then to legitimize your mistake you come up with the argument that " Well every one else thinks its true, so its good enough for me".
So, even when I admit I'm wrong, I'm wrong, WTF. I guess you must be some kind of professor, on a marijuana site, where bullshit is a mile deep. Well, fuck you professor, this is a genuine opinion site, and that was my opinion. I admitted I was wrong, explained how that came to be, and again you chastised me. I repeat, fuck you.
 

NoDrama

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So, even when I admit I'm wrong, I'm wrong, WTF. I guess you must be some kind of professor, on a marijuana site, where bullshit is a mile deep. Well, fuck you professor, this is a genuine opinion site, and that was my opinion. I admitted I was wrong, explained how that came to be, and again you chastised me. I repeat, fuck you.
Admittedly the Site is full of BS, check the newbie section. In that section of the forum people grow 5 foot tall 30 ounce yield plants with a couple 27watt CFL's and some LED's.
 
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