Isolating Pure CBD.

we synthesize it to select 1 compound instead of the hundreds that would otherwise come during extraction. this is done for nearly all medicine. but their is no ddifference in structure and selected terpenes an other cannabinoids are added in controlled ratios to have a known drug and reaction in each dose. this should be common sense. you can get ratios you desire.

Anyone who has had the displeasure of smoking "spice" (synthetic thc) knows first hand it is nothing like the original creator made thc. It may be different in other applications but thats my experience wth synthetics

that's not synthetic thc lmao

it's hard to teach those unwilling to learn..

synthetic delta 9 thc..
not jwh etc which is a full agonist

we produce the exact same compounds in weed, even using some of the same precursors

From what I have heard, cannabis's side effect of an elevated heart rate has been the reason that some people have been associating heart attacks with some cannabis users. I believe cannabis definitely needs to be studied much more throughly before accurate conclusions can be made. And we come back to the ridiculous "Schedule 1" classification of cannabis. That's the first step- getting cannabis re-scheduled.

I believe that different cbd:thc/other cannabinoid/terpenoid ratios work best for different ailments/folk. But I'm of a whole plant mentality, for wellness. Isolating specific cannabinoids is not the answer. I'm with Mechoulam's "Entourage Effect" idea, which is why I think synthetic single cannabinoids market is a half-baked idea.

The closest big pharma has come, to date, with a whole plant approach, is GW Pharma, with their Sativex (and future) products, using whole plant extracts, combined in different ratios, for different ailments.

For those that don't like:don't want to get high, a la THC, I recommend a whole plant approach that sees people juicing the leaves, and ingesting flowers (oil, capsules, tinctures, etc...) of low-THC:high-CBD phenos of specific strains, such as Cannatonic, or Z7 from Shantibaba, or R4 "Charlotte's Web" from the Stanley Bros, or Harlequin, etc...

I'm a strong proponent of daily juicing, specifically raw green juices that include cbd-rich cannabis leaves, especially for people suffering from auto-immune diseases....they've absolutely changed my life!

I've been strain hunting since 2011, finding a stable of high-CBD strains, to deal with my own auto-immune disease.

qwizoking said:

that's not synthetic thc lmao

it's hard to teach those unwilling to learn..

synthetic delta 9 thc..
not jwh etc which is a full agonist

we produce the exact same compounds in weed, even using some of the same precursors

Click to expand...

The plant has many compounds for a good reason, manipulating it to garner the use of 1 is a truly bad idea baked on the wonderful manifesto that SCIENCE trumps NATURE.

Spice was not really made up of with the same JWH compound, JWH-018 and JWH-073 are not the same monster.

regards,

Haha... chewberto your thread just got bukkaked.

QK, i understand what you are saying. I am sure there are particular cases such as yours, and others like you, in which cannabis wasn't the key to comfort. But it's like saying for instance, that you have a headache, and take lithium to cure the headache and when it doesn't work discredit lithium all together. Bad example of medicines I chose, but you get what I mean. Marijuana works great for so many things and it should be available to all, because let's face it, even If you do stand behind the "deaths" from marihuana as the reason you don't condone it, it is still much safer than any other prescription med on the market.

Great read everyone. Thank you for the input. Please Continue

Much safer than our LEGAL liquor also.

safety isn't the issue, lots of drugs have side effects or cause long term damage, more people die from caffeine lol. we just can't be ignorant to it, our job is to administer safely and provide you with all the info you need to make an informed decision. we are still in preclinical stages for most applications coming out. but it's like this for many drugs like the deterx oxycodone formulations.. we have to know, and we don't.. that's the bottom line. with so many compounds in weed its just not suitable. it has to be controlled in specific amounts no variables. this is the way it has to be, controlled regulated and governed for the safety of those using it. yes it prevents lawsuit but more than that it's our profession it's what I enjoy. it's the prescribing doctors job treat you it's my job to make sure that is done safely and effectively with no drug interactions etc. I need to know the pharmacodynamics of what is happening with all the compounds.. we all do. you can disagree with my feelings that's fine.. of course I would treat someone with it if nothing better worked or I felt it was the better alternative. I can safely say I speak for my immediate colleagues as well on this subject

now obviously I'm on a weed forum and I smoke more than probably anybody in this thread.. theres no need for foul language or getting worked up over this.

and again you can choose the ratios of ccannabinoids to better suit you

I'm not worked up, and tried to be least abrasive in sharing my thoughts. At least I thought I was... I suppose just can't believe that all the drugs on the market that get pushed upon the consumer and are FDA approved are better, or provide less side effects. A lot of them are destroying your liver and can kill you. I totally understand the variables and scientific method and the struggles with proving anything without a shadow of a doubt with cannabis, but clearly it works wonders and Is less harmful, so my approach would be treat first with the least harmful, if it doesn't work then Move to synthetics. Seems like simple survival instinct to me. No disrespect to you.

I just have a general distaste for big pharma, and big business in general. Everything from our health to our homes is pimped out for profit, and I wish they could leave just this one thing alone. I suppose if the goal was to truly help people by isolating cannabinoids in a lab I would be OK with it, but it's not. Anyone that believes that this isn't just one more profit driven endeavor is smoking something more than weed

Great read, and many great points from many different standpoints.

I have a LOT to contribute to the paradigm of which the thread has engaged.

However, I'm in a shit ton of pain at the moment, and super dabbed out and would prefer to be a tad less inebriated.

But, I want to point out a super toxic drug that is taken daily by many many people, a drug available on the shelves of not only at the drug store, but supermarkets and convenience stores.

It's everywhere... Destroying the Livers of thousands and thousands, causing more problems than the symptoms it's taken for.

Acetaminophen.

I'm fairly sure that the FDA recently changed the daily allowance of milligrams.

And it should be even lower than that.

That drug is poison, and it's everywhere.

More from me in the morning.

mmmhmm fucking poison. I myself expressed my view loudly, anytime I was within vicinity of those in power. worked for many years to get it removedand yes we got it, the allowed mg was greatly reduced. but it's primary purpose is to stop abuse. that's not right imo. but yea I've talked about my hatred towards apap alot. even in low doses it's toxic on contact.

Smoke em if you got em. I wouldnt' put that pill'ed up crap in my body. I would suffer and die before I would allow myself to sucumb to the addiction of narcotic pain or any of their crappy synthetic garbage they try to duplicate. Marinol is garbage, another reason to not allow us to grow and know what we put in our system.

Let's get this thread back on track guys; isolating cbd's...

Lol
Well I suppose most importantly

what are you using this for chewy?

Well, shit, now I'm remembering some studies done with Skunkman Sam.

If I recall, Sam has a DEA #

CBD has already been isolated and get this...

Is fucking patented by the DEA, Along With THC a, CBN, CBG.

The thread is buried deep into a very old thread on IC*ag...

I'll see if I can't find it.

I'm almost sure he even posted the patent, and I definitely remember seeing pictures of vials, distributed by the DEA.. labeled ” Pure CBD” etc.

Damn It....

Now, I MUST find the posts, because the thread title had nothing to do with the post(s).

grrrrr

Colleague GrassMan turned me on to this image, with the words –

“Here you a pic with a few cannabinoid samples.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?al...ctureid=847153

The is from Chimera. You can trust on what he shows. He his very educated and trustable.”