Is this typical Sativa? Buds with top leaves and sparse calyces?

high acutance

high acutance

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My third season, but it has been mostly indica leaning hybrids. Got some freebie "Lemon Lotus" from Bodhi. Cletis Clem showed a Lemon Lotus grow in a very informative post. My question is, "WTF is with the structure of these buds?" Leaves growing out of the top of the bud, and not very tight bud structure at all. Other stressors would be a cold grow room (it's winter time, Dude) and maybe the LED lights are a little close. Am I growing males and don't know it? Thanks for your advices.garden-8.jpggarden-5.jpggarden-6.jpggarden-7.jpg
 
GBAUTO

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How far into flower is it?
I am currently running a pheno of Northern Soul that started flowering like that but it's now about a month into flower and is filling out nicely.
As with most things, once you're this far in it's best just to see what it does.
or perhaps, that's why the beans were free...
 
high acutance

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GBAUTO said:
How far into flower is it?
I am currently running a pheno of Northern Soul that started flowering like that but it's now about a month into flower and is filling out nicely.
As with most things, once you're this far in it's best just to see what it does.
or perhaps, that's why the beans were free...
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It's about 5 weeks into flower.
 
T macc

T macc

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Any light leaks? What's your temps? Lighting and grow space? I have to echo the reveg narrative; I have sativas that are further than that at 6 weeks. That's a lot of leaf. What strain?
 
xtsho

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You know
rob333 said:
some pure strains can take up to 14 weeks some will fill out others will not but if u wait the bud is amazing just not fat at times
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Or even longer than 14 weeks. I recently cut a pure sativa that went 20 weeks and I probably should have let it go a few longer. But it looked like it was flowering the entire time. But the OP's plant just looks like it's vegging. It does have some calyx's and sugar leaves covered in trichomes. Definitely and odd looking plant. I've had a few grow like that over the years. They never filled out and stayed larfy. Maybe the plant isn't revegging and some recessive trait became dominant. It has some Afghanistan genetic in its genealogy. I recently grew some landrace Mazar-I-Sharif from Afghanistan and I had one plant that was very similar in growth to this one. I ended up pulling it from the flower tent but I do have a picture which shows a similar leafy structure with a few calyx's here and there. All the other plants formed tight dense buds.

 
rob333

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xtsho said:
You know


Or even longer than 14 weeks. I recently cut a pure sativa that went 20 weeks and I probably should have let it go a few longer. But it looked like it was flowering the entire time. But the OP's plant just looks like it's vegging. It does have some calyx's and sugar leaves covered in trichomes. Definitely and odd looking plant. I've had a few grow like that over the years. They never filled out and stayed larfy. Maybe the plant isn't revegging and some recessive trait became dominant. It has some Afghanistan genetic in its genealogy. I recently grew some landrace Mazar-I-Sharif from Afghanistan and I had one plant that was very similar in growth to this one. I ended up pulling it from the flower tent but I do have a picture which shows a similar leafy structure with a few calyx's here and there. All the other plants formed tight dense buds.

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nice mate but i will say comming from a guy that grew sativa for like 4 years straight lol max is 16 i have never had a strain go to 20 have pushed it to 18 but that was a mango sativa from thailand but that looks nice
 
high acutance

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I think the mystery is solved. I checked my light timer and there was a switch on "outlet on" that should have been "time on." So I've been giving them six weeks to a month of 24/24! That will change today. These three plants are "Lemon Lotus" from Bodhi. Said to be a Lemon G and Snow Lotus cross, otherwise known as a Lemon Thai and a Hawaiian (two Sativas). They grew like any other plants until they were a foot high. They then became incredibly bushy, dense plants, and they were somewhat different (from each other) in structure and color. All have great lemony aroma. They were trimmed back and flipped just before Christmas, but two weeks later I accidently set 24/24 ] and they have been growing under bright LEDs ever since. The grow room is too cold (55F) but there's not much I can do about it this time of year where I live. So the stress of the cold, and the influence of constant light, has produced this. Maybe I can flip them back to a flowering mode, and the final buds will have something unique from all the stresses. o_O Or not. Thanks for all the input. The diagnosis was correctly veg, and I found the cause with the first thing I checked. Can't wait to see how it all ends...
 
Cookie Rider

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mystery solved!
Good to hear the issue.
Maybe consider harvesting as is for baking, then continue on w 24/24 to reveg completely, then flower again
Properly.
It was looking mint up to the reveg leaves.
 
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GBAUTO said:
If that's 5 weeks in, I'd say that the genetics of that bean are no Bueno...
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Agreed, AND, it looks like a Indica dom hybrid. The leafs are to short and the leaf blades too rounded and fat

As to Calyxes, they typically don't appear until ~ 6+ weeks of flower. Watching them swell is one good way to know you're getting close, especially when they are literally coated with trichs

Invest <$15 in a handheld microscope to view the trichs. When they're ready to harvest you will have mostly cloudy trichs and a few dark orange

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high acutance said:
I think the mystery is solved. I checked my light timer and there was a switch on "outlet on" that should have been "time on." So I've been giving them six weeks to a month of 24/24! That will change today. These three plants are "Lemon Lotus" from Bodhi. Said to be a Lemon G and Snow Lotus cross, otherwise known as a Lemon Thai and a Hawaiian (two Sativas). They grew like any other plants until they were a foot high. They then became incredibly bushy, dense plants, and they were somewhat different (from each other) in structure and color. All have great lemony aroma. They were trimmed back and flipped just before Christmas, but two weeks later I accidently set 24/24 ] and they have been growing under bright LEDs ever since. The grow room is too cold (55F) but there's not much I can do about it this time of year where I live. So the stress of the cold, and the influence of constant light, has produced this. Maybe I can flip them back to a flowering mode, and the final buds will have something unique from all the stresses. o_O Or not. Thanks for all the input. The diagnosis was correctly veg, and I found the cause with the first thing I checked. Can't wait to see how it all ends...
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Incredibly bushy is a sign of Indica

FYI, seed companys are notorious for mixing up seeds
 
omgBoNg

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Glad you got it fixed, but seriously how did you go 6 weeks/ month with out noticing no lights out. Honestly not trying to be a dick, genuinely curious.
 
xtsho

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rob333 said:
nice mate but i will say comming from a guy that grew sativa for like 4 years straight lol max is 16 i have never had a strain go to 20 have pushed it to 18 but that was a mango sativa from thailand but that looks nice
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Well then you haven't grown a strain that takes 20 weeks because some of them do. ACE has several that go 20 weeks or more. And the Oldtimers Haze I grew could have gone a few more weeks past the 20 I grew it for.

Oldtimers Haze 14-20 weeks.
Burma Myanmar 18-20 weeks
Green Haze 14-20 weeks
Kerala Chellakutti 18-25 weeks
Kullu 16-20 weeks

The picture I posted was not a long flowering sativa. It was a landrace that grew that way and I only posted it to show the similarities with the growth structure of the OP's posted plant. But that is irrelevant as the OP's issue was not due to genetics but was revegging as I had initially posted in my first post to this thread.
 
rob333

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xtsho said:
Well then you haven't grown a strain that takes 20 weeks because some of them do. ACE has several that go 20 weeks or more. And the Oldtimers Haze I grew could have gone a few more weeks past the 20 I grew it for.

Oldtimers Haze 14-20 weeks.
Burma Myanmar 18-20 weeks
Green Haze 14-20 weeks
Kerala Chellakutti 18-25 weeks
Kullu 16-20 weeks

The picture I posted was not a long flowering sativa. It was a landrace that grew that way and I only posted it to show the similarities with the growth structure of the OP's posted plant. But that is irrelevant as the OP's issue was not due to genetics but was revegging as I had initially posted in my first post to this thread.
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Must of been the strain
 
high acutance

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omgBoNg said:
Glad you got it fixed, but seriously how did you go 6 weeks/ month with out noticing no lights out. Honestly not trying to be a dick, genuinely curious.
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I thought I was set for 12/12 from noon to midnight. I checked the grow room every evening, and of course the lights were supposed to be on at that time.
 
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