Is this normal??

ahoo

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Ok so I'm hoping you guys can help! Its my first grow. Its been over 30 days and it seems my plant is growing super slow. But since its my first grow I'm not 100% sure.
Flowerbomb Kush
Coco
Flora Grow series nutrients
Feeding once a week & its still in solo cup
started with very very low nutrients
currently doing 900ppm of nuts (lower leaves were turning yellow)
Advanced Platinum p300 LEDs
Temp 75F-82F
Humidity 50%-70%
Just topped it at 3rd node.

Any advice guys?


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sworth

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Soil looks very dry.... As said, some careful feed and watering and you'll be okay. (I have a similar one; I'm not too stressed)
 

ahoo

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Oh.. yea i took the picture before watering. Mostly every where they said the soil should be dry knuckle deep before watering. I must be imagining it but it seems my leaves got greener in the last few hrs since i covered up the cup. Do let me know how it turns up!
 

purplehays1

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Oh.. yea i took the picture before watering. Mostly every where they said the soil should be dry knuckle deep before watering. I must be imagining it but it seems my leaves got greener in the last few hrs since i covered up the cup. Do let me know how it turns up!
i agree with bose she will need a bigger pot asap
 

thewanderingjack

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Never use a clear container... light kills roots, which slows growth. Also, the more root space you give them the better they'll develop, so a bigger container would definitely help.

Keep in mind: growing in tiny containers all the way to the plant developing sex is common, since people don't want to spend the resources on a bunch of little plants in big planters (especially if you're using natural seeds and some will be males). But you have to do it right to maximize vegging (and I feel it limits overall plant potential)... I have sprouted in a solo and other small containers, but switch to 1 gal pots for vegging as soon as they developed enough to transplant. I also go straight to whatever size final bucket I will use. BUT if you do that (called "over-potting") you have to change how you water, generally meaning you have to water less than you think (water the plant, not the pot) or make sure your soil is fast draining. Otherwise the bottom tends to stay saturated and you get the effects of "over-watering."
 

ahoo

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Thanks guys your input has been has been noted and appreciated. I'v moved it into my final size (3 gal) smart pot. Since I blocked the light to my roots my plant is showing significant growth. I will try to avoid over watering but I think that will only happen with experience. But for now i"m just going to water half side of the plant and when the top soil is dry water the other side with a few sprinkles over all. Basically my idea is that roots need oxygen and when over watering they r just deprived of it.. so if one side i do over water the other side should still be able to get oxygen.. don't no if my thinking is correct or if it will even work.
 

thewanderingjack

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Basically my idea is that roots need oxygen and when over watering they r just deprived of it.. so if one side i do over water the other side should still be able to get oxygen.. don't no if my thinking is correct or if it will even work.
So you are right... over watering is in fact drowning... starving the plant of oxygen.

But your plan has some flaws: gravity and permeation. Even if you only water one side... the water will distribute out into the rest of the soil... it's physics. Let's say you could effectively water only one side... well, plants don't necessarily distribute things evenly... think of it like a certain section of root feeds only a certain part of the plant... if that root hit a pocket of over-fertilization lets say, the branch it feeds might die, but the rest of the plant will not be as deeply affected. In your scenario you could still over water half your plant.

Like you said, experience is going to be your best teacher there. I personally water very little. My environment in very humid so it takes a long time for my pots to dry out... I also find it is easier to over-water than to under water... meaning you can easily wind up over watering... but when you water less, you can tell when your plant needs more, either from the soil dryness or the plant itself showing signs. You do run the risk of stress... but I think that's less of an issue than water-logging. Over watering can be much harder to solve, depending how bad it gets.

Don't be afraid to shove your pinky in the soil or fondle your plants (haha that all sounds so dirty) to get a sense of how both are doing.

On the upside smart pots are great for preventing water logging issues... in fact, their major disadvantage to other pots is that they tend to dry out faster. One tip... get someting to keep them of the "floor", getting a little air circulating under there. This will ensure drainage and aeration and pretty much never having to worry about "over watering."
 

txponto

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Thanks guys your input has been has been noted and appreciated. I'v moved it into my final size (3 gal) smart pot. Since I blocked the light to my roots my plant is showing significant growth. I will try to avoid over watering but I think that will only happen with experience. But for now i"m just going to water half side of the plant and when the top soil is dry water the other side with a few sprinkles over all. Basically my idea is that roots need oxygen and when over watering they r just deprived of it.. so if one side i do over water the other side should still be able to get oxygen.. don't no if my thinking is correct or if it will even work.
How about an updated pic to show the recovery made?
 

ahoo

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The leaves have turned dark green and there's a very small burn at the tips but I think its under control.

thewanderingjack- any recommendations on how to get air circulating underneath? I guess i could get a few small boxes n put them underneath it.

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SPLFreak808

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The leaves have turned dark green and there's a very small burn at the tips but I think its under control.

thewanderingjack- any recommendations on how to get air circulating underneath? I guess i could get a few small boxes n put them underneath it.

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Looks to be growing fine. You can water a ring around the plant untill it gets big enough for a full watering.
Whatever you fed looks to be working.
An oscillating fan is good enough
 

thewanderingjack

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You ever see those storage cubes made of metal... not mesh... thicker and more separated... that are just squares and cilp together at the corners with plastic bits? I wish I knew what they were called. I feel like everyone either had one or know someone who did whilst in college.

An upside down milk crate would work well. It gives it air circulation form all sides. Maximizing the airpot idea. I've been considering a hanging garden with these... well, homemade ones :).

I suggested the cubes first because, since what you really get are flat metal squares with plenty of strength and the most space. You can put each square down on some 1"x2"s so you get plenty of circulation without having to lift them up so much.
 
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420producer

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The leaves have turned dark green and there's a very small burn at the tips but I think its under control.

thewanderingjack- any recommendations on how to get air circulating underneath? I guess i could get a few small boxes n put them underneath it.

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what i did was go get 3/4 in. pvc pipe and cut it into 4 in strips and set them bags on top now gets plenty of air under my bags as well i took a small knife . and cut into the lower part of bags . and im finding way less salt build up as well. im finding after a 3 day dry up and fresh water and light nutes. . it blew up. still smaller than my plastic pots. i feel a waste of money. but thats my opinion.. see the difference. ld flush and let your roots go look for water. hope this helps anyone .btw 4 weeks veg. 18/6 with 1000s and 600s mixed 6400 watts and other room 3200 watts. sog with only 1 strain . ditching that lame ass lucas formula and going back to CANNA. in thinking a pound .. what say you ??
 

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714steadyeddie

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If you're in coco you should be giving light feeds multiple times a day. At least split what you're feeding her into two parts,

And never let your coco dry, get familiar with how the pot feels when it's completely saturated, so you can determine if she needs water by lifting the pot
 

cocojo3

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That pot isn't to small for that plant size, especially in coco. 900ppm is extreme for such a little girl. Lower leaves turning yellow is an N deficiency. Try getting your ratio more towards 3-1-2. For plants that size you should be closer to 200-300 ppm. Also, make sure your ph is 5.8-6.2 to prevent nute lockout.
 
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