Is this from a lack of nitrogen?

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This is my first attempt ever at growing, and I have an autoflowering plant growing in some living organic soil. Can someone help me identify if these leave deformities are from a lack of nitrogen, or just a lack of nutrients in general? I have it in a 20 gallon fabric pot, and have been watering every 4 days. Then every other watering I have been using the RECHARGE plant food from Real Growers; should I be using this every watering?

The plant seems to be doing alright, except the one leaf at the bottom, and the tips of some other fan leaves. Any input would be appreciated (sorry for the picture size).

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disbeverk

disbeverk

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Herb & Suds said:
It looks under watered and your nutrients are hot
I would actually do a flush
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Amen to this.

Tip burn shows you've got an N toxicity, if anything. Don't worry too much about the very lowest fan leaves, it's natural for the plant to suck stored nutrients out and let them die off. The more you know: Plant senescence.
 
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disbeverk said:
Amen to this.

Tip burn shows you've got an N toxicity, if anything. Don't worry too much about the very lowest fan leaves, it's natural for the plant to suck stored nutrients out and let them die off. The more you know: Plant senescence.
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Herb & Suds said:
It looks under watered and your nutrients are hot
I would actually do a flush
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Thank you for these responses, I will give them a go.

Shaded420 said:
autoflower in a 20 gallon pot? whoa
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Hey, that is what was suggested to me for the grow space I am in. The person grows successfully, so I followed their advice.
 
disbeverk

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IndoorCultivator said:
Hey, that is what was suggested to me for the grow space I am in. The person grows successfully, so I followed their advice.
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He may be being a bit of a dick, but he's not wrong. 20gal is for TREES, your plant would have been better off in a 1 gal until this point. Rapid wet/dry cycles is what you're looking for in veg. The oversized media, and therefore lack of dryback is certainly contributing to your nutrient toxicity. Give it a SOLID watering... like 20gal of runoff.
 
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disbeverk said:
He may be being a bit of a dick, but he's not wrong. 20gal is for TREES, your plant would have been better off in a 1 gal until this point. Rapid wet/dry cycles is what you're looking for in veg. The oversized media, and therefore lack of dryback is certainly contributing to your nutrient toxicity. Give it a SOLID watering... like 20gal of runoff.
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Eh, I figured he was too, but I also took it into consideration that it might be too big. Learning as I go, but thanks again for the follow up.

Now just to figure out how it makes sense for me to do 20 gal worth of runoff inside haha
 
Shaded420

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disbeverk said:
He may be being a bit of a dick, but he's not wrong. 20gal is for TREES, your plant would have been better off in a 1 gal until this point. Rapid wet/dry cycles is what you're looking for in veg. The oversized media, and therefore lack of dryback is certainly contributing to your nutrient toxicity. Give it a SOLID watering... like 20gal of runoff.
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You gathered I was being a dick from that little comment I made? :-| I said what I said out of genuine surprise. I don't think I've ever seen anyone grow an autoflower in a 20gallon pot.

IndoorCultivator said:
Hey, that is what was suggested to me for the grow space I am in. The person grows successfully, so I followed their advice.
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Does your friend grow autoflowers or photoperiods?
 
Shaded420

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IndoorCultivator said:
They do photoperiods. The autoflower was suggested since it was my first grow.
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Not sure why they would recommend to grow something they don't grow themselves, and then give you advice based on what they grow. No way an autoflower will have the time to fill out a 20gallon pot before you harvest. 5 gallon or less imo and it will help your watering issues.
 
PadawanWarrior

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IndoorCultivator said:
This is my first attempt ever at growing, and I have an autoflowering plant growing in some living organic soil. Can someone help me identify if these leave deformities are from a lack of nitrogen, or just a lack of nutrients in general? I have it in a 20 gallon fabric pot, and have been watering every 4 days. Then every other watering I have been using the RECHARGE plant food from Real Growers; should I be using this every watering?

The plant seems to be doing alright, except the one leaf at the bottom, and the tips of some other fan leaves. Any input would be appreciated (sorry for the picture size).

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Give them a good watering. Especially if you're using living soil. Living soil should remain moist.
 
xtsho

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IndoorCultivator said:
They do photoperiods. The autoflower was suggested since it was my first grow.
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Stop listening to your friend. They gave you poor advice. Too big of a pot and then starting with an autoflower. What you now have is a huge pot of soil and a very small plant that you might harvest a few grams from.


Shaded420 said:
You gathered I was being a dick from that little comment I made? :-| I said what I said out of genuine surprise. I don't think I've ever seen anyone grow an autoflower in a 20gallon pot.



Does your friend grow autoflowers or photoperiods?
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These days there's always someone making something out of nothing. Be careful or you'll get labeled as a bully.
 
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xtsho said:
Too big of a pot and then starting with an autoflower. What you now have is a huge pot of soil and a very small plant that you might harvest a few grams from.
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I'll take a few grams from a first grow haha. I get that the pot is too big, and will reduce the size to about 5 gal I guess for my second go.

I mean with the little amount of knowledge and experience I have on this subject, there seem to be some buds growing! I was mainly focusing on the humidity and VPD, not thinking about the pot being too big. Figured the more space to grow the better :bigjoint:

Thanks again for all the responses, I am taking them into consideration.
 
xtsho

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IndoorCultivator said:
I'll take a few grams from a first grow haha. I get that the pot is too big, and will reduce the size to about 5 gal I guess for my second go.

I mean with the little amount of knowledge and experience I have on this subject, there seem to be some buds growing! I was mainly focusing on the humidity and VPD, not thinking about the pot being too big. Figured the more space to grow the better :bigjoint:

Thanks again for all the responses, I am taking them into consideration.
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Next time grow photoperiods and flower them when you decide. That way you'll be able to flower a larger plant.

For some reason people think auto's are somehow easier to grow which isn't the case. All they do is flower without having to change the light schedule. If you have any issues early on that effect the plants growth you end up with small plants that flower.

Had you grown a photoperiod plant you could have let it get much bigger as you have plenty of space in that pot and been looking at ounces not grams.

Good luck going forward with your grows.
 
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xtsho said:
Had you grown a photoperiod plant you could have let it get much bigger as you have plenty of space in that pot and been looking at ounces not grams.
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Well I already got an auto flower seed for my second grow from Seedsman haha. Where do you recommend a photoperiod seed from? I am sure I could use the same website, but just curious.
 
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