Is this a ph problem? (help would be awesome ima newb)

ibob

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my plants leaves dont look right i think its a ph problem. but uh whats a good way to store and ph your water and why do i see people with big garbage cans and what not with bubbles coming from the bottom of the water? is this what i need to do?265MEDIA$IMAG0322.jpg
 

spek9

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You have what looks to be a myraid of issues, one *appears* to be a Calcium and Magnesium deficiency. You need to get a pH tester. These can be bought at your local grow shop or online for ~$7.

Leaving the water out for 24+ hours will allow chlorine to evaporate, and bubbling it will oxygenate it, but neither will pH it properly. For that, you literally need to test, then pH down or pH up as necessary.

Vinegar works for down, and baking soda works for up if you're short on budget.

-spek

ps. if you are using tap water, I would put an educated guess that you're too high on pH. If you can't get a meter, put about 4 drops of vinegar in 1L (~1 quart) of water, and it should bring it down to acceptable levels. Understand this is a HUGE guess though, considering I have no clue what your tap water quality is like. However, most claim they are around or just over 7, and you want to be ~6.4 for soil. Apple Cider vinegar works best.
 

kermit2692

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if you used good dirt and you are using a proper nute line and leaving your water sit out a day or two..their is absolutely no reason to test ph and it will literally only be a problem that needs some sort of attention 1 in a thousand plants...what are you currently feeding? dirt? lights?
 
Its a potassium deficiency...

You dont see leaves curling like that with magnesium deficiency

Flush with ph'd water
 

ibob

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if you used good dirt and you are using a proper nute line and leaving your water sit out a day or two..their is absolutely no reason to test ph and it will literally only be a problem that needs some sort of attention 1 in a thousand plants...what are you currently feeding? dirt? lights?
Fox farm happy frog. plain tap water from the south that sits out at least 24 hours no nutes so far...
 

ibob

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Its a potassium deficiency...

You dont see leaves curling like that with magnesium deficiency

Flush with ph'd water
So what ur saying is get water and ph it to what may i ask to what ph...
And do u think it be a good idea to do the garbage can with bubbles?
 

ibob

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i believe i need some nutes... what would yall recomend that is simple and organic?
 

Dennis Stein

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Try one part each Happy Frog, Ocean Forest, and Light Warrior if you like the cheap prices of FoxFarm's. Happy Frog is not meant to be used as a stand alone medium. Peeps reporting pH below 5 right out of the bag. Nice amendment though. Ocean Forest runs a little hot too so you may opt to "cook" these 3 parts if your pH is still to low. Mix all 3 bags in a tote and moisten, stirring every few days. Add 2 cups of calcitic lime or oyster shells/powder. Check pH with soil tester after a couple of weeks. Add some more buffering agents if your pH is still below 6. I don't use dolomite lime as a buffering agent as I feel the cal/mag ratio isn't even close to the 6-7:1 that I desire.
 

DannyBlaze

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You should put what dirt and what nutes yo using in the first post cause I'm not going to read it all:lol: the bubble thing is for hydro don't worry bout it:lol: your plant looks burnt are you using ph and ppm meters?
 
I dont know the first thing about organic nutrients.. but id check out one of the stickys if i were you

For hydro 6.0 ph is about right for soil 6.4 to 6.8
 

ibob

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You should put what dirt and what nutes yo using in the first post cause I'm not going to read it all:lol: the bubble thing is for hydro don't worry bout it:lol: your plant looks burnt are you using ph and ppm meters?
Fox farm happy frog, water that has sat out for at lesast 24 hours , 600w mh cool tube the temps stay around 80 during the day 75 at night humidity is usaly around 50%.i have not tested the ph of my water or ppms. i have not fed my plants any nutes either...
 

kermit2692

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ok heres the deal you can listen to me or this guy lol..i dont agree that looks like a mag def to me and even if it wasnt why would flushing help!...get a easy to use kit like the general organics go box comes with easy instructions for 35 bucks and you can learn and change that along the way..you do not need to mix happy frog with anything in fact thats the only thing ive grown in indoors never had a problem and you also dont need to worry about ph because your nute line will be ph balanced, water is always near what you need it at and cannot kick the ph of an entire pot of dirt, and that guy just doesnt know what hes talking about because all fox farm products are ph balanced so again your ph will almost never be the source of a problem!! fed em and they will be just fine!!
 
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