Is lollipopping really worth it? Does it increase yield

too larry

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Cutting off green healthy leaves is the biggest stoner myths that exists.

Nitrogen and many other nutrients are translocatable, i.e light hitting any green and growing leaf will translocate carbs and some other nutrients wherever the plant needs it. If it is a green and growing leaf it is there for a reason. There comes a time in any plants life (be it a flower, weed, or redwood tree) where the requirements of that leaf nutrient-wise, are more than that leaf can produce. i.e. the plant says "ok, leaf, you worked well for a while but now you are a bit shaded and not contributing to the overall good of this plant system. You are taking more energy to sustain than you produce for the good of the plant, no slackers, so you are outta here". And that leaf then yellows out and falls off all on it's own, after the plant has extracted whatever assimilated goodies the leaf has on board.

There is an energy cost to the plant (any plant) in photosynthesizing, converting and assimilating all the nutrients, and over millions of years I think plants have gotten pretty good at knowing what they need. MJ is just another plant.

Continue to strip off nice big green leaves, you will not increase your bottom line in any way. Sure less popcorn, but overall you will max out at less final product.

No other plant in commercial production is vandalized in this way, because it is Bullshit stoner reasoning that "light has to hit the budsites".

And that's just Bullshit, backed in no way by science.

Got an airflow / mildew issue.... then deleafing can certainly help in that situation. But it is a reactive response, one that should have been avoided in the first place. Need to tweek environment, maybe grow plants that are not dense cabbages, etc.

Anyway to me stripping leaves is like medieval bloodletting where "doctors" (actually called barbers) would drain blood from sick people trying to get rid of the poisoned blood. Sick people need all the blood they have, just as our plants need leaves.

41 years (now in 60's) of working in botany, soil science, and gardening gives me a pretty objective point of reference. And all I can say is MJ is about the easiest plant on the face of the earth to grow. For any aspiring growers, it's easy, but forget the VooDoo science, it will derail you.
I remember when Cousin Wayne would freeze 2 liter bottles of water and lay around his plants. Because they flower in the fall when it gets cold, he figured that is what make them bud. lol
 

AimAim

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I remember when Cousin Wayne would freeze 2 liter bottles of water and lay around his plants. Because they flower in the fall when it gets cold, he figured that is what make them bud. lol
Well, I think most new MJ growers would be well into the game to concentrate on basic gardening and botanical concepts. Forget marijuana there is NOTHING special about growing it.

I read a quote some time ago that went along the lines of "Advice about growing weed is thrown about by people that just want to get high, they have zero interest in the biology involved".

Well said.
 

too larry

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Well, I think most new MJ growers would be well into the game to concentrate on basic gardening and botanical concepts. Forget marijuana there is NOTHING special about growing it.

I read a quote some time ago that went along the lines of "Advice about growing weed is thrown about by people that just want to get high, they have zero interest in the biology involved".

Well said.
I always advise noobs to grow tomato plants and bag seed before they try bought seeds. Without the social, economic and emotional expectations that comes with high priced seeds they will learn more.
 

Flowki

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Humidity and it's related issues seems to be the only real conclusion I can make after reading lots on this matter. Even with a de-hue and good airflow a thick lower canopy can condense and hold moisture. Most people top the plant, it's unavoidable the lower canopy will get bushy.

I would say that not touching the plant in any way is the best way to grow. However you need to do many small pots in sog while getting the veg time and spacing right, that is a schedule/logistic/skill block. Fewer bigger plants being topped is easier, but 2nd best I have came to believe..
 
I agree if you top the the plant I think a thick lower canopy is inevitable.

To me though it Dosent take much to keep the bottoms tidy and I believe it's a lot less work when harvesting.

I couldn't possiably say if it increase or decreases yield to me it's jst preference I have let them go wild previously and when it comes to harvest it becomes a ball ache and spend the majority of the time picking trough little bits that dry to nothing anyway.
 

Smurf125

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I'm a fan of lollypopping. Not quite sure if it increases yeild however it makes the end trim a lot easier. No popcorn buds. The trick is to be brutal. It may look like you've raped your plants but they appreciate it. These are gelato 41 (apparently. Clones bought through a froend so they could be anything) what do you guys think? 2 weeks into flower
 

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Couch_Lock

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It's better to look at it this way.......

1. It makes it easier to water the plants.......

2. It increases the air flow down below the canopy

3. It's easier to get to the dead material that drops down low and reach plants further back in the room

4. Easier to spray for bugs down low on the main stem

5. It will increase bud/cola size by a small bit as the plant will use that energy towards bud production, rather than the lower stuff

6. You won't have to stake the lower stuff, where the branches are less developed and can't hold their bud weight.

A no brainer..........
Agree.

But over defoliation can negate max yield.
 

ThatSpudGuy

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I'm a fan of lollypopping. Not quite sure if it increases yeild however it makes the end trim a lot easier. No popcorn buds. The trick is to be brutal. It may look like you've raped your plants but they appreciate it. These are gelato 41 (apparently. Clones bought through a froend so they could be anything) what do you guys think? 2 weeks into flower
Agree.

But over defoliation can negate max yield.
3 year old thread guys ‍♂
 
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