when I read the thread title "Is it really charitable giving when you are forced to donate? "
I was really hoping that I was clicking into a voluntarism or individualist thread, instead I found some new age liberal wannabe copy/pasting some shitty article about mormons which I didn't have the desire to read.
It is funny here we have a collectivist starting a thread with an individualist argument, this is one of the greatest flaws with collectivism actually. The idea that voting to give someone money or forcing the government to steal money from one person and give it to another is charitable or makes you a kind generous person is exactly what makes me realize collectivist are in reality selfish and lazy people. (or just plain stupid)