Is it me or am I Paranoid? Weird spinning leaves and droop on part of plant

JD_ghost

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Never seen this before all 3 plants that are doing this are Autos but 1 is gorilla glue and other 2 are ak47. To me I have no idea what’s going on, only been feed microbs to the autos ph water to about 6.2. Thought I was under watering maybe because I first noticed it when the top soil was dry and about an 1ich-2inches down was dry. There in happy frog and 98% of all the plants are completely green. Do I have a start of an infestation? I have 2 other plants one is about half way through flowering and I have a cotton candy kush seedling both are not having this same issue but get same ph water and same soil same lights grow room stays about 77f during the day and drops to about 67 for there 4 hour dark cycle humidity does fluctuates a bit about 34% all the way to 50% humidity does not go past 50 I run my fan on my HVAC all day to put new air into the room. My bigger plant looks great but has some nut burn
 

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BBQtoast

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You just been feeding pH products and microbes?

Looks like death row for plants, try a half strength feed on one wait a week and ponder light, watering and stuff in-between. Need to do better really and I'm not any help except basic advice and not to pH soil water ever.
 

JD_ghost

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Wait don’t PH your water if growing in soil? I’m confused? I’m newer to growing this is my second run can you please Elaborate?
 

BBQtoast

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Wait don’t PH your water if growing in soil? I’m confused? I’m newer to growing this is my second run can you please Elaborate?
No pH, soil buffers everything for you, total waste of a meter and time.

If your the type that needs meters and numbers go straight to hydro, soils never been like that and people saying that isn't how Joe blogs in his greenhouse cracks out prize tomatoes every summer without pH meters or a care in the world what pH his waters at.

Your going to find a lot of people say stuff, soil water and ferts when needed, nothing else matters in that department.
 

JD_ghost

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I’ll give it a go to not ph my water and see what happens but a lot of people say to ph water even in soil maybe I was just taught wrong method. But isn’t there a ph range where plant uptake nutrients and don’t like I hear people say oh I had nutrients lock out cause I didn’t ph my water or some shit like that
 

BBQtoast

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Find where I first post on page three and the pthorticulture link from promix makers.

Read the link then read from page three to the end and note what I and others who argree not to pH water in soil say.
 

Mrs. Weedstein

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I’ll give it a go to not ph my water and see what happens but a lot of people say to ph water even in soil maybe I was just taught wrong method. But isn’t there a ph range where plant uptake nutrients and don’t like I hear people say oh I had nutrients lock out cause I didn’t ph my water or some shit like that
PHing water in soil is a waste of time. Imagine having to PH enough water for your whole backyard. I would literally have to quit my job and not do anything else. I don’t, yet somehow my plants live...
 

JD_ghost

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PHing water in soil is a waste of time. Imagine having to PH enough water for your whole backyard. I would literally have to quit my job and not do anything else. I don’t, yet somehow my plants live...
this is very true what you are saying and makes perfect sense I just don’t get why I’ve been told time and time again to PH my water. Ima roll with what y’all are saying and see how it goes
 

BBQtoast

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this is very true what you are saying and makes perfect sense I just don’t get why I’ve been told time and time again to PH my water. Ima roll with what y’all are saying and see how it goes
One less problem now one step closer to better plants.

Were stoned and sell weed, don't believe much if what we say, we hear words like calcium and get so involved till shit spouts out our mouths.

Keep it simple is the best idea.
 

PadawanWarrior

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Never seen this before all 3 plants that are doing this are Autos but 1 is gorilla glue and other 2 are ak47. To me I have no idea what’s going on, only been feed microbs to the autos ph water to about 6.2. Thought I was under watering maybe because I first noticed it when the top soil was dry and about an 1ich-2inches down was dry. There in happy frog and 98% of all the plants are completely green. Do I have a start of an infestation? I have 2 other plants one is about half way through flowering and I have a cotton candy kush seedling both are not having this same issue but get same ph water and same soil same lights grow room stays about 77f during the day and drops to about 67 for there 4 hour dark cycle humidity does fluctuates a bit about 34% all the way to 50% humidity does not go past 50 I run my fan on my HVAC all day to put new air into the room. My bigger plant looks great but has some nut burn
Water them.
 

JD_ghost

Member
I think I have found the issue I remembered I recently changed where my fan was located and upped the speed I think there getting wind damage it match’s the Symptoms perfectly twisted growth droopy when watered or not leaves look spikes tips I will update in a few days to a week to see if this has solved the issue.
 

Wastei

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No pH, soil buffers everything for you, total waste of a meter and time.

If your the type that needs meters and numbers go straight to hydro, soils never been like that and people saying that isn't how Joe blogs in his greenhouse cracks out prize tomatoes every summer without pH meters or a care in the world what pH his waters at.

Your going to find a lot of people say stuff, soil water and ferts when needed, nothing else matters in that department.
It's not as easy as "soil buffers everything for you". It's not the soil but alive bacteria culture if anything. If you don't have a pH buffer in soil you may need to take this in to consideration.

Buffering can either be done by keeping the microbes well fed and multiplying or traditionally by adding lime in peat based mediums as example. Silicate is another pH buffer in hydroponics.

It all depends on your input if you need to pH your solution. There's nothing magical in the soil I'm afraid. To many variables and different soils too just say -"You never need to pH the soil". It all depends on the situation.
 

Mrs. Weedstein

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It's not as easy as "soil buffers everything for you". It's not the soil but alive bacteria culture if anything. If you don't have a pH buffer in soil you may need to take this in to consideration.

Buffering can either be done by keeping the microbes well fed and multiplying or traditionally by adding lime in peat based mediums as example. Silicate is another pH buffer in hydroponics.

It all depends on your input if you need to pH your solution. There's nothing magical in the soil I'm afraid. To many variables and different soils too just say -"You never need to pH the soil". It all depends on the situation.
I wouldn’t say “never” because some people may have insane water, but in all my decades of living in Oregon, it’s never been a problem. Then again, we probably have decent water, especially out in the sticks...
 
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