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is flowering time calculated ....

Thundercat

Thundercat

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I only count from when the plant begins to flower........think about it it makes a ton of sense. There is a transitional period between veg, and flower, read the side of your nute bottle it even says so right there. The transition time is the time it takes the plants to build the correct hormones to the point of maturity and begin to start flowering. If your genetics are mature in the first place this usually only takes 5-7 days, if they are not mature it can take 2-3 weeks. I personally feel this is the most common reason people are asking if their plants are done when they clearly need 2-3 more weeks to finish. Its also gonna be different with different strains, some will take longer to transition into flowering. I find that if you actually count from the time you first start to see flowers that you will usually have a mature plant by the time the breeder says it will be, and some times even just a tiny bit sooner. I also agree that its all up to the specific plants and counting is just to keep track of things mostly.
 
topfuel29

topfuel29

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Thundercat said:
I only count from when the plant begins to flower........think about it it makes a ton of sense. There is a transitional period between veg, and flower, read the side of your nute bottle it even says so right there. The transition time is the time it takes the plants to build the correct hormones to the point of maturity and begin to start flowering. If your genetics are mature in the first place this usually only takes 5-7 days, if they are not mature it can take 2-3 weeks. I personally feel this is the most common reason people are asking if their plants are done when they clearly need 2-3 more weeks to finish. Its also gonna be different with different strains, some will take longer to transition into flowering. I find that if you actually count from the time you first start to see flowers that you will usually have a mature plant by the time the breeder says it will be, and some times even just a tiny bit sooner. I also agree that its all up to the specific plants and counting is just to keep track of things mostly.
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i couldn't of said it better.
 
Malevolence

Malevolence

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I count from pistil. I think breeders count from 12/12 because they assume fully mature preflowering plants. Just a guess... but when it takes 2 weeks before you see a single pistil... fuck that, that isn't 2 weeks of budding no matter how you look at it.
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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Its also simple with regards to outdoors plants. They don't have an actual 12/12 switch, so they consider the plant to start flowering when it shows flowers/pistils/sex how ever you wanna look at it.
 
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Slowburnone

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Uhh.. my 2 plants started showing pistils the very next day of 12/12. ofc i vegged for 2 months. Would that matter? i.e. total veg time?
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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Did it actually show real pistils the next day or did it just have preflowers from being mature and vegging for so long? I have had preflowers on all of my white widow clones for the last 3 years. I've been working with mature genetics and clones the whole time and they always have preflowers on them. However it still takes about 5 days for them to actually start flowering. The nodes start to clump and the real pistils being to push out. Longer veg time definitely does help the flowering process being faster by maturing the plant properly. Preflowers don't count towards when the plant begins though, they are just a sign of the sex and maturity.
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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Those pistils in the first 2 pictures appear to me to be preflowers, but I can tell the plant has alternating nodes, which is a sign of maturity too. I would say it prolly only took a few days to start seeing real flowers because the the plant was fully mature when you flowered it. All your plants look really nice BTW, the buds to me look like about 1-1.5 weeks old.

When I'm keeping track of this stuff I wouldn't say my current plants are at 6 weeks until they have completed those 6 weeks. Thats just how I do it to keep track of the different age plants I've got going. I know that as of tomorrow (sunday 3/2) most of my plants have finished 6 weeks, and 1 is at 3 weeks. If I was counting from 12/12 the 3 week plant would be at 4.5-5 weeks it wasn't mature when I flowered it. That being said it does not have 5 weeks worth of bud on it, it has 3. Really its mostly semantics if you are intouch with your plants and actually wait till they are "really" done.
 
bigv1976

bigv1976

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I have not read this thread but I wanna comment on the OP. Who cares when you calculate flower time from? The plant is finished when it is finished regardless of if you count days or not.
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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bigv1976 said:
I have not read this thread but I wanna comment on the OP. Who cares when you calculate flower time from? The plant is finished when it is finished regardless of if you count days or not.
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You are correct the plant will be finished when it is, however by keeping records of the "rough" age it is easier to be aware of the maturity. When I have multiple strains and plants of different ages in the same room I can just know I don't have to worry about certain plants until they are within that last week or so. Then I'll keep a closer eye on them and determine when they are ready to cut.
 
amrcngror

amrcngror

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ya i dont kno why ppl arent seeing their plants flowering until "2 weeks after switch" ive been running the same clones for over a year and within 5 days after switch you can deff tell they begun flowering....i always count from the day i put them in the flower room and like my pineapple xpress its totally completly unmistakably done on the 1st day of week 8...but again maybe cuz im working with a stable mature strain... ?idk
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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amrcngror said:
ya i dont kno why ppl arent seeing their plants flowering until "2 weeks after switch" ive been running the same clones for over a year and within 5 days after switch you can deff tell they begun flowering....i always count from the day i put them in the flower room and like my pineapple xpress its totally completly unmistakably done on the 1st day of week 8...but again maybe cuz im working with a stable mature strain... ?idk
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The last 2 words of your post are why that happens. Your genetics are mature, which allows them to begin to flower much more quickly. Were they not mature it would likely take 2-3 times longer for them to begin.
 
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