Irish Boy's 2011 Spectra Led Grow (Revenge Of Casey Jcnes))

My 2 cents on your light layout. "If I Were King" I'd use 4 of the 180's and put them on a rotary light mover. (360 clockwise stop then 360 counter clockwise) You'd hit every possible light angle over a 4' square space.

Shwagbag said:

I think Stoney, Irish and I are all running about a 4 x 4 box for them. I only had 2 so it only made sense to get the other 2 at that price. Stellar deals on the 290's still. Now I'm thinking 4 x 180 around the perimeter and 290 in the center would be sweet as hell and put me over 1000w which sounds about perfect! lol

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yep, were all in about a 4 x 4. Irish will have six of them, you will have four with maybe a 290 in the center, and i will have the least with three. it is going to be very interesting seeing all of that!!!!

Shwagbag said:

I think Stoney, Irish and I are all running about a 4 x 4 box for them. I only had 2 so it only made sense to get the other 2 at that price. Stellar deals on the 290's still. Now I'm thinking 4 x 180 around the perimeter and 290 in the center would be sweet as hell and put me over 1000w which sounds about perfect! lol

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sounds sweet. the 1k HPS is meant for a 4x4 tray so why not rock that over the tray with leds? although i think the 4x180's will be plenty of light for your tray, 3x180's is good for my girls

fartman said:

quick question everyone or anyone lol i had 2 plants in one resivoir and 1 died (because of not enough light i think the resivoir isnt big enough for 2 plants?) i cut it but left the roots will they cause the other plant problems cause i woke up and it was all wilted plus the leaves look bleached i think the bleaching came from having the light too close ,actually i noticed the bleaching 2 days ago and raised the lights but today theyre all saggy and the only thing i could think of was the dead roots?so i removed the roots and gave it a nute change ,im hoping they will unwilt and come back to life?what do u guys think

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ya bro the root will rot if u leave it in their.
what light are you using and how close?

WattSaver said:

My 2 cents on your light layout. "If I Were King" I'd use 4 of the 180's and put them on a rotary light mover. (360 clockwise stop then 360 counter clockwise) You'd hit every possible light angle over a 4' square space.

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that would be cool if you had one of those light movers.

stoneyluv said:

yep, were all in about a 4 x 4. Irish will have six of them, you will have four with maybe a 290 in the center, and i will have the least with three. it is going to be very interesting seeing all of that!!!!

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we will know pretty soon, even though this grow of mine really isnt the best idea to say how they work but next one will be all fair game.

well irish i had a 90 watt ufo over it but the plant i had beside it had the 290 about 18 inches above it,the 2 plants are diff heights so the 290 was even with the plant thats sick but i didnt think it would put off that much sideways light ,so either the light caused the bleaching ,its not white its yellow,or it was the first sign of whatever is making it wilt ,i ran out of the dynagrow bllom so i used ff for the last week,i change it weekly ,but i used it on the other plant too,ive since goy some dynagrow bloom and refreshed the resovoirs ,i took a pic too show you but the batts went dead ,but the other plant is fine ???? any thoughts? or do you think the dead roots put off a fluid that messed with the other plant?

fartman said:

well irish i had a 90 watt ufo over it but the plant i had beside it had the 290 about 18 inches above it,the 2 plants are diff heights so the 290 was even with the plant thats sick but i didnt think it would put off that much sideways light ,so either the light caused the bleaching ,its not white its yellow,or it was the first sign of whatever is making it wilt ,i ran out of the dynagrow bllom so i used ff for the last week,i change it weekly ,but i used it on the other plant too,ive since goy some dynagrow bloom and refreshed the resovoirs ,i took a pic too show you but the batts went dead ,but the other plant is fine ???? any thoughts? or do you think the dead roots put off a fluid that messed with the other plant?

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not sure bro? i would keep that 290w around 22"+ for a while and let the plants adjust to it

hey man, i fell asleep last night before i could take these pics... here is the rest of that plant. it decided to hermie on me... I'm not upset, this is the almost ten year old strain that i went to Amsterdam to get. almost ten years and this is the first hermie!! I should have some good seeds if it matures enough!! it is a blueberry.

stoneyluv said:

yep, were all in about a 4 x 4. Irish will have six of them, you will have four with maybe a 290 in the center, and i will have the least with three. it is going to be very interesting seeing all of that!!!!

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No doubt! I don't think I will pony up and drop another 350 but damn is it tempting!

WattSaver said:

My 2 cents on your light layout. "If I Were King" I'd use 4 of the 180's and put them on a rotary light mover. (360 clockwise stop then 360 counter clockwise) You'd hit every possible light angle over a 4' square space.

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That would be awesome but I just looked into them and they're pricey! http://www.solarrevolution.com/Main.htm 1000 for a 4 spot. Any links for more economical ones?

EDIT - Ahahah, the ones I was looking at must have came with the lights. Found a 4 spot for 40 bucks, I think I may do that when I get set up!

EDIT - AGAIN - Ok so they are damn pricey, the second one I looked at had no motor, gotta read that fine print.

stoneyluv said:

hey man, i fell asleep last night before i could take these pics... here is the rest of that plant. it decided to hermie on me... I'm not upset, this is the almost ten year old strain that i went to Amsterdam to get. almost ten years and this is the first hermie!! I should have some good seeds if it matures enough!! it is a blueberry.

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still looks good, its a shame but thats a long time.lol

Shwagbag said:

No doubt! I don't think I will pony up and drop another 350 but damn is it tempting!



That would be awesome but I just looked into them and they're pricey! http://www.solarrevolution.com/Main.htm 1000 for a 4 spot. Any links for more economical ones?

EDIT - Ahahah, the ones I was looking at must have came with the lights. Found a 4 spot for 40 bucks, I think I may do that when I get set up!

EDIT - AGAIN - Ok so they are damn pricey, the second one I looked at had no motor, gotta read that fine print.

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LMAO

stoneyluv said:

yep, were all in about a 4 x 4. Irish will have six of them, you will have four with maybe a 290 in the center, and i will have the least with three. it is going to be very interesting seeing all of that!!!!

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WattSaver said:

My 2 cents on your light layout. "If I Were King" I'd use 4 of the 180's and put them on a rotary light mover. (360 clockwise stop then 360 counter clockwise) You'd hit every possible light angle over a 4' square space.

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irishboy said:

still looks good, its a shame but thats a long time.lol


LMAO

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Hahaha.... So what's cookin Irish? Pushing flowers? Revenge of Casey Jones mofo!

Shwagbag said:

Hahaha.... So what's cookin Irish? Pushing flowers? Revenge of Casey Jones mofo!

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seems like their in flower mode, seem what they look like in a week? allot better then they were thats for sure.lol

so what kind of genetics do you have planned for the next round?

not sure? but i have a few cool things i am going to try. you guys will see soon as i get things rolling.lol

glad to see you got the new lights in. Got some new pics up in my journal if you want to check them out. Heat is still causing them to lag but the finish line is finally in sight. The unknown purp strain is going to be done within a week. A couple of the plasma plants have a few days.

Whats good Irish? I just got done catching upon everything, its good everything is running a lil bit smoother those 180's look sexy man I'm jealous haha
I have a question for you buddy, have you considered using earth juice? The price for the nutes are unbeatable considering the fact that they are 100% Organic...just thought you might be interested, it seems like a win-win situation you save some moolah AND your growing organically.
Anyways happy growing brother!

kckid816 said:

glad to see you got the new lights in. Got some new pics up in my journal if you want to check them out. Heat is still causing them to lag but the finish line is finally in sight. The unknown purp strain is going to be done within a week. A couple of the plasma plants have a few days.

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ill check it out

rollingone said:

Whats good Irish? I just got done catching upon everything, its good everything is running a lil bit smoother those 180's look sexy man I'm jealous haha
I have a question for you buddy, have you considered using earth juice? The price for the nutes are unbeatable considering the fact that they are 100% Organic...just thought you might be interested, it seems like a win-win situation you save some moolah AND your growing organically.
Anyways happy growing brother!

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yes i have many times. i think at the end i went with the age old because it was cheaper? but ive been thinking EJ but heard of people having issues with it and the PH. some say it dose great though. i was also going to try the GO line but a buddy did it and it was ok yield wise but the quality was great. hummm getting my mind going now bro.lol

irishboy said:

ill check it out


yes i have many times. i think at the end i went with the age old because it was cheaper? but ive been thinking EJ but heard of people having issues with it and the PH. some say it dose great though. i was also going to try the GO line but a buddy did it and it was ok yield wise but the quality was great. hummm getting my mind going now bro.lol

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Haha shit my mind has been going for a while now about them, i just need some damn paper and then im buying me some.
Thats good to know about the PH, but im just already hooked on the EJ man hahah

stoneyluv said:

not any more.... hehehe

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DAMN YOU!!! haha
So your the lucky one who got it? I had my eye in that baby i just couldn't stack the chips fast enough, if you know what i mean haha
naw but seriously im fuken happy for you bro, i hope that baby grows you some bomb-diggity haha

rollingone said:

Haha shit my mind has been going for a while now about them, i just need some damn paper and then im buying me some.
Thats good to know about the PH, but im just already hooked on the EJ man hahah

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seen EJ grow some potent plants. i know of a great feeding chart.

Test 1 : Earth juice full line = Grow (2-1-1) - Bloom (0-3-1) - Microblast - Catalyst (0.03-.01-1) - Meta-K (0-0-10)

I'm sure you noticed Earth Juice is tested more than once in my experiments. Although this schedule requires some experience to properly apply I feel E.J. is one of the premier organic nutrient lines available. I've always used E.J. The company generally lacks in costumer service and has no recommended schedule for Cannabis. Unique in it's composition, E.J. consists of high quality ingredients that promote micocrobial activity. Over the years I've developed a theory of sorts on nutrients. Simple Diversity. Basically I believe a wide variety of simple, unprocessed ingredients will properly grow microbial life and plants. Earth Juice is in line with this idea.

The "Grow" uses blood meal, steamed bone meal and bat guano as the primary source for nitrogen - 50% of which in non-soluble. This non-soluble nitrogen is imperative in feeding beneficial fungi and bacterial life in the medium. It's very inconsistent from one batch to the next. Occasionally, it's solid as Play-doe. Naturally occurring Sulfate of Potash is used providing appropriate amounts of potassium. Sea kelp (Ascophyllum Nodusum) provides various growth regulators and trace elements. High quality Molasses, a secret weapon in many nutrients is also included. Between Kelp and molasses the Brix levels here are through the roof as both these ingredients are packed with carbohydrates. This product produces tremendous vegetative growth developing a solid foundation for flowering. During the first 6 weeks of veg this schedule led the pack ratings wise and numerically.

The "Bloom" contains no direct form of nitrogen. Rather than blood meal it uses fossilized seabird guano. Normally seabird guano is high in nitrogen but when "fossilized" it breaks down into primarily a phosphorus and potassium rich substance. Other than that, the ingredient's included are the same as Grow in different ratios. Grow and Bloom are weak when used alone. They are designed to be mixed together through-out the entire vegetative and most of the flowering cycle or deficiencies will occur.

The "Micro blast" is a sulfate based formula supplying various micro nutrients. Understanding some soil micro-biology is important to understand the effectiveness of sulfates. In a healthy, living substrate there are sulfur - oxidizing bacteria (they make energy through reacting with sulfur) that help break down organic material producing soluble and easily available nutrients for your plants. This process has essentially already taken place in regards to sulfates and Micro blast, creating an almost chelated effect. The included nutrients and minerals are readily available with-out much assistance from microbial life. In early flowering under heavy growth demands I felt Micro blast was weak in Zinc and Magnesium.

"Catalyst" is an oat bran and sea kelp based nutrient. It is the most popular of the E.J. products. The Catalyst is exactly that. It assists in building soil structure, micro-bial life (specifically beneficial fungal life), organic material break down, contains growth simulators and various hormones. It is an absolutely vital component to the E.J. line and again, sends Brix levels soaring. It contains a tremendous amount of high quality, plant available molasses, and amino acids feeding microbial development.

"Meta K" is also an important addition specifically in relationship to cannabis. Marijuana demands large amounts of potassium in flowering. This product provided more than enough and easily is over applied. I found less amounts spread out over the entire cycle worked excellent.

Earth Juice products work best if applied making an air infused "tea". This tea will explode with microbial life and creates a "living foam" on it's surface. I pre-mix 24 to 48 hours in advance of feeding, heating the solution mildly to 85 degrees. This turns into a rich mixture of balanced, active microbes. Between this tea, the Catalyst and some vital non-soluble nitrogen the bacteria and fungal life within the medium thrives. This soil-life will feed your root zone and in turn feed your plant. With Earth Juice you focus more on maintaining a healthy living medium. The "Grow" gets premixed in a small container so I can viciously shake the hell out of it - then add it to the solution. This tea can last some time with air being pumped in - sometimes a week. It's time consuming but well worth the effort. pH must be balanced prior to application. The Macro nutrient solutions are non pH buffered. It WILL be low. You can also simply pre-mix before application - but mix thoroughly.

This cycle has ridiculous bud development. The diverse ingredients here react excellent with Marijuana. Earth juice uses the highest quality guano available and the molasses is top notch. Smell and flavor are far superior than most other tests. Crucial mid flowering stages with Earth juice responded very well to additives. Cal/Mag in various forms helped firm up buds. Enzymes specifically and beneficial's made nutes more available and increased absorption rates. See the Additive section for more specific results. Final product was phenomenal, buds were swollen and furry with trichromes. I have a long history with Earth juice and expected it to finish high in this overall test. It remains my primary soluble nutrient today. It was second only to Advanced Nutrients in production weight but far better quality in my opinion. The smoke produced simply tastes the best among these cycles and potency is top of the list. I cannot recommend this cycle enough if your interested in organics. When properly applied Earth juice will match any nutrient application out there.


Test 1 = Earthjuice full line :

$30.50 per cycle or $0.04 per gram produced
-------------Catalyst--------Micro---------Grow---------Bloom-------Meta K

week1 veg-----5ml----------5ml-----------5ml
week2 veg----10ml----------5ml-----------5ml
week3 veg----10ml----------5ml-----------10ml
week4 veg----10ml----------5ml-----------10ml
week5 flower--10ml----------5ml-----------10ml-----------5ml---------2.5ml
week6 flower--10ml----------5ml-----------10ml---------10ml----------2.5ml
week7 flower--10ml----------5ml-----------10ml---------10ml---------2.5ml
week8 flower--5ml-----------5ml-----------15ml---------15ml---------2.5ml
week9 flower--5ml-----------5ml-----------15ml--------20ml---------2.5ml
week10flwer----------------5ml-----------10ml-------- 25ml---------2.5ml
week11flwr-----------------5ml------------------------20ml
week12 FLUSH

Repeat week 3 for veg or 10 for flower extension

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this thing is on its way and im fuckin stoaked my run is just about over but theres always next time.

also great read on that earth juice you use ill have to look into this more in the future can this tea be added to hydro res water or is it soil only??