Insight: Amare Tech Solar Spec LED Panels

The PISSING match begins... How did I know this was going to happen.. Punch them in the face and oh wait " I didn't get punched in the face" I just get nosebleeds sometimes. Buy it, build it WTF... I like the color blue you like green, I like a Big Mac, you like Whopper's . You can piss 6 7/8 feet I can piss 6 3/4. So you have a light that is 10 % more efficient but where you live you pay 15% more per KWH for electricity. I start my plant indoors and once they are ready I put them in my greenhouse while you grow with your 10% more efficient light. I harvest 50% more weight than you do. You like Ford's I like Dodge... I found a Company and product that I like they have gained my Loyalty and Trust. Their products do a great job and are proven. Man thought I would get to put the "soapbox" away.
 
monkeychief said:
Gee, if it goes from 1200umol to over 2000, it must be a less efficient. Sad... U obviously are not capable of holding an intelligent conversation or debate without making asinine remarks. I guess I'm hybrid now:) Yeah, I'm a hybrid clone u clown:) You are so knowledgeable, yet bought and recommend CLW, a good quality light, but still a blurple spectrum. Good one. All credibility lost.. U know much less than portrayed sir... so please stop pretending you're knowledgeable.





Lol. Again, in case you convenient overlooked my previous post of the price per watt comparison. Amare charges less per watt for their Pro4 with 3590 than Going Green running 3070 with Meanwell vs. generic with reflector and lenses. This goes the same with Johnson with Citizen, which cost much less than the 3590's. Fact is they're the lowest actual market price per watt using top-bin CXB3590 and Meanwell. It is, what it is.

According to who and where is the source you are referring to that they make more ppfd/watt? Proof or it's BS and life's too short for it. Oh, you mean this? A 200watter powered by 4 x 3070@50% can outpar a 1000w DE. Look at the corner readings. 400-518umol?:) If you accept this nonsense, especially the corner readings for this light, you have no business recommending anything to anyone. CXB3070 with standard drivers @$3/w and u recommend it over the Amare with 3590 and Meanwell? Pure comedy:) I'm out of this pointless conversation since you have no respect for the truth and reality or just not as knowledgeable as you attempt to pass off. If you're going to bash and bs, at least get your facts straight and make it sound convincing. Some of us are not as ignorant as you nor blinded by hatred and prejudice. Get your facts straight sir. Enjoy making a gong-show out of riu. Prejudice is usually based on ignorance. Peace!


http://www.gogreenleds.com/store/p37/200W_4_COB_CXB3070_Grow_Light_.html

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http://growershouse.com/blog/best-indoor-grow-light-test/

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Now the ultra rich will just go out and create a company to build the bleeding edge tech:

Interesting.
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So now you see the BS I put up w/around here. Some say I push Amare. Not true. I correct lies & hogwash. Tell the truth from experience. Document grows. Share the facts.
 
Yeah, these morons used to push their hero jeff@a51 and what happened now. lol. Their star scammed growers who listened to his BS and their recommendations and disappeared. It's the lies and hate that gets me. I mean Amare is out for money when they're the lowest price/watt period and the <75% more expensive is just pure misinformation. The sad thing is some take these clowns seriously not knowing any better. Hiding behind keyboards spewing untested hypothetical BS and attacking anyone who even mentions Amare or do not agree with their misguided and ignorant theories. Impressive to the new and inexperienced, but pure BS to those who get it and actually grows. The truth's out there and it's coming.
 
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So will Amare ever go back to blurple?

I wonder how much of blurple was a symptom of the LED technology back then.
Phosphor based white light leds have really improved over the last few years.

Fluence also went from blurple to white.

Though blurple lights are still being developed and made by big companies like philips, but there's also a difference between supplemental lighting in greenhouses and pure growlights in an isolated growbox.
 
frica said:
So will Amare ever go back to blurple?

I wonder how much of blurple was a symptom of the LED technology back then.
Phosphor based white light leds have really improved over the last few years.

Fluence also went from blurple to white.

Though blurple lights are still being developed and made by big companies like philips, but there's also a difference between supplemental lighting in greenhouses and pure growlights in an isolated growbox.
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I doubt it, they're moving foward, not backward. The enhanced full spectrum's where it's at.
 
Lenses (reflectors too) do add some inefficiencies.

But on the other hand a tighter beam angle makes it much easier to direct all the light on a plant.
It depends a bit how close you can get your lights to the plants.

The Fluence Spydr fixture is made in such a way that you can place it very close to the plants and with a very even spread.
A fixture like that would not benefit from lenses.

But an Amare growlight uses stronger diodes in a much tighter package so it has to be placed farther from the plants.
Since LEDs typically have a beam angle of at least 110 degrees, that can mean a lot of wasted light being reflected of the walls, in Amares case the lenses help to get more light on the right place.

Or if you're doing a sea of green, in the middle of the room all the light is going to be hitting plant anyway, don't need lenses for that. But near walls, in tighter spaces. Lenses can and do help.
 
Lenses & reflectors offer much more in gains then they ever will in minute refraction losses.
Personally I wouldn't use cobs bare unless maybe running soft (less then 50%) I'd want at least a good reflector.
When I put on my lenses, it's a whole nother ball-game. The canopy is just so freaking bright it's crazy. Just wish I had the ceiling hieght in my room to use them.
Maybe I'll ask for a modified 100•-105• lens from Amare. They've offered before, I should've took them up on it then. I'd love to use my lenses.
Especially now that I have an isle in my room. Minimizing spillage & gaining loads of PPFD within the beam angle. Overlapping fixtures ensure even coverage over long or wide spans of area.
 
BM9AGS said:
All of these lights have more cobs than amare and cobs are the real light producers of the fixtures. You're paying over $800 for 3 cxb 3590s in the amare. The CXB 3590 is pushing the PPFD numbers of those units not the shitty low efficient monos. So 3 cxb 3590 cost about 120$. Then about $70 for the driver and those monos are not expensive. Amare is for someone that wants a light that looks cool and colorful in pictures not someone that is looking for the highest PPFD for their dollar.

Glad Amare is giving a 25% discount. I know petflora and hybridway are getting even better for their tireless advertising.
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And how exactly do you KNOW this?
 
CREE XP-G3 full-spectrum and the new XQ-E Photo Red I want some of these small high output LEDs.

I'm just here trying to learn from others you can learn something from everyone I just disregard the information that I deem useless and try to do a little research and process information I deem useful. I've seen great results with Quantum boards I seen great results with the new T5 bulbs as well we're constantly evolving with light one way or the other and I love it.:hump:
 
Hybridway said:
I doubt it, they're moving foward, not backward. The enhanced full spectrum's where it's at.
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I agree with that. the SUN has been their standard. You have to go back a few years to the APACHE Tech days when they were working with NASA to develop an extremely low powered LED light system to grow vegetables in space. The use of low wattage LED's were a must and red & blue LED's fit that model.
 
Where am I said:
I agree with that. the SUN has been their standard. You have to go back a few years to the APACHE Tech days when they were working with NASA to develop an extremely low powered LED light system to grow vegetables in space. The use of low wattage LED's were a must and red & blue LED's fit that model.
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N that's exactly how burple started. Although Apache was one of the first to realize that wasn't the best & adapted white w/ added red, while the others took advantage & still do.
 
Hybridway said:
N that's exactly how burple started. Although Apache was one of the first to realize that wasn't the best & adapted white w/ added red, while the others took advantage & still do.
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And how they continue today :)


Blurple works great in conjunction with white.

You guys need to get off the either or train. Even plants know better, ala Emerson Effect.

Start thinking like farmers.
 
Hybridway said:
Hence Amare.
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I don't own or use Amare, but I am basing my posts on my experience with the technology they are using. You guys are backing that up with results. And Yoda still can't grow anything more complicated than tinea pedis.

My preference is still to go DiY with my own spin. I don't care where the parts come from, I use them to provide an outcome or function at the lowest overall cost. Lots of factors go into cost including money, time and most importantly, interest.
 
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