Humboldt DWC
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Whos out there rockin the induction lighting and how its going?
Induction Growers ROll Call
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Taviddude
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:Tumbleweeds: lol.
I don't think induction is going to catch on as much as the manufacturers would like.
The problem with induction is that it's still just a florescent light bulb.
There is no penetration. You're still going to get fluffy buds like you would running T-5's.
A 400 watt induction will have NOWHERE near the penetration of a 400 watt HID which means fluffy bud with the induction.
Less heat-Maybe.
Better Bud-No.
More weight-No
If you find something contrary to what I think I'm always open to new shit and would love to hear it.
Peace.
Tav
I don't think induction is going to catch on as much as the manufacturers would like.
The problem with induction is that it's still just a florescent light bulb.
There is no penetration. You're still going to get fluffy buds like you would running T-5's.
A 400 watt induction will have NOWHERE near the penetration of a 400 watt HID which means fluffy bud with the induction.
Less heat-Maybe.
Better Bud-No.
More weight-No
If you find something contrary to what I think I'm always open to new shit and would love to hear it.
Peace.
Tav
overachiever
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I'm running induction lights! Loving them in veg, going to try them in flower anyway! Most heathy plants I've seen!!!
captainmorgan
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360 watts of 5000k induction for veg and add 216 watts of T5 630 nm and 660 nm for flower.I get large dense frosty buds.My friend that grows the same cut under HPS says mine are denser and frostier.
brotherjericho
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I grew with induction for about a day. 150w 2700k bulb got up to 5F hotter than my DIY ~156w PLLs, so I put them back in. Induction looks good and it has its place, but not in my grows any more.
captainmorgan
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Bad clones about covers it,I'm no longer going to count on someone's sick and abused clones.The Cree bulb flowering thread is the lone survivor.
captainmorgan
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I have my ballast's mounted outside my cabinet to reduce heat.
brotherjericho
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Yep, same here. Still 5 degrees warmer pushing my canopy to almost 90F. Out she went.
captainmorgan
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Never researched PLL's,they look to be a variation on CFL.Induction is also but has a big lifespan and light intensity advantage over CFL.Were do PLL's fall in this scale,are they closer to CFL or induction?
brotherjericho
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I would say closer to t5s. You basically get 75-80 lumens/watt with PLLs.
captainmorgan
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There's always a trade off when you don't have as much control over the environment.I was all T5 HO at first and was able to replace some of it with induction and keep the temps within reason because of the ballast being mounted outside were the T5's were inside and went from 432 watts to 576 watts in the same space.
Situation420
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I heard that induction lighting the bulbs last for a really long time. The bulbs intensity declines only about 1% every 2 months rather than 30% over that time for HID lighting. I'm about to look up the exact numbers behind it but this is a starting point. Besides that the spectrum is really good as well and they run at very cool temperatures allowing them to be placed closer to your plants than HID lighting.
captainmorgan
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Inda-Gro claims 90% lumen output at 70,000 hours with their lamps,not sure if that's a realistic number across most induction lamps.
Situation420
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That sounds like what I heard, if thats the case the savings on bulbs alone would be worth the investment as long as the light spectrums and coverage is figured into your lighting setup.
captainmorgan
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The 5000k's I got worked perfect for my setup and they only cost me $.56 a watt to buy on closeout with a 5 year warranty,you don't come across deals like that every day.
chazbolin
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Hey Tav! Nice of you to opine but IMHO you make too broad statement when you condemn an entire technology especially if you haven't done an actual induction garden yourself. You dismiss the work of many of us on here who have had successful runs with Induction including myself, Spliff, and Scarhole to name a few. You can see my grows and yields in other threads and these were all done veg-flower. The buds are dense, stinky and oily not 'fluffy' at all. Now I'm running Pontoons at flower and my results have been improved beyond straight phosphor. When comparing my old HID gardens I'm only adding 1400 BTU/hr compared to the >5000 BTU/hr the 1000 watt HID setups would contribute to my rooms. And your right it is a fluorescent bulb but it's one that in the case of my Inda-Gro's has phosphors that deliver PAR spectrum's and it's been running nearly every day for the last 3 years without replacement.
So from my perspective I'm willing to go on record as:
Less heat- Yes
Better bud - Yes
More Weight per watt - Yes
You can see one of my RIU runs, with weights @ https://www.rollitup.org/led-other-lighting/506257-inda-gro-induction-138.html