Indoor Hydro Sog Help!!

Nollidify

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I am wanting to grow my first SOG. my idea was to do do 24 plants. i want to do 4 plants per big rubber maid tote but 8 plants per life stage. so 8 plants per stage. and i would do them in 2 week intervals. so introduce a fresh batch of clones every 2 weeks and expect a harvest as well every 2 weeks. as for lighting i would have 1 300w galaxhydro LED per tote so 300w per 4 plants. i would veg the clones for 14 days in a seperate room so they can have 18/6 light and keep the SOG room on a 12/12 obviously. ive never done anything like this so opinions insight suggestions and critiqes are all welcome. thank you guys all for your help.


Attached is a shitty diagram of what i roughly had in mind.
 

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BionicΩChronic

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Looks good bro!!!
Only things i can add are:
Id say if u want only give them 1 week veg.

if you put the holes in the tote in a zig zag you will better utilize space.

And maybe look into converting into rdwc. Keeping up with that many individual totes is gonna be a pain.
 

Nollidify

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Looks good bro!!!
Only things i can add are:
Id say if u want only give them 1 week veg.

if you put the holes in the tote in a zig zag you will better utilize space.

And maybe look into converting into rdwc. Keeping up with that many individual totes is gonna be a pain.
Sorry i was not clear in my original post but i am definitely going to be doing an undercurrent RDWC i have a 55 gallon drum that should hopefully suffice. what do you think would be a reasonable yield estimate? and is there any specific reason for only vegging for one week? as i understand more veg = a bigger plant and overall more weight. But i am by no means an expert, i am however very eager to learn.
 

Douglas.Curtis

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I don't recommend perpetuals, due to pest and other issues. RDWC, with a perpetual, will not allow proper res management for strains about to be harvested.

15 years of hydro says, keep one strain per bucket. Flower one cycle at a time, so you can handle pests/issues in veg.
 

BionicΩChronic

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Sorry i was not clear in my original post but i am definitely going to be doing an undercurrent RDWC i have a 55 gallon drum that should hopefully suffice. what do you think would be a reasonable yield estimate? and is there any specific reason for only vegging for one week? as i understand more veg = a bigger plant and overall more weight. But i am by no means an expert, i am however very eager to learn.
In s.o.g your goal is to create fat single colas no branching.
The goal is to lollipop your clones.
Once your clones have good roots throw them into flower.

You wont be able to run them all off of one res, unless you want to feed them all the same thing through the whole flowering process
 

Nollidify

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In s.o.g your goal is to create fat single colas no branching.
The goal is to lollipop your clones.
Once your clones have good roots throw them into flower.

You wont be able to run them all off of one res, unless you want to feed them all the same thing through the whole flowering process
Ok, since the last 2 weeks is a flush stage those bins can just be ph balanced water right?

and as for the other bins would would be your recmmendation to make it as efficient as possible? maybe make 3 resivours 1 for each set of 2 bins?

and if i did per-say do that would i need 3 pumps or would there be a way for me to use my 1000G/PH?
 

BionicΩChronic

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Ok, since the last 2 weeks is a flush stage those bins can just be ph balanced water right?

and as for the other bins would would be your recmmendation to make it as efficient as possible? maybe make 3 resivours 1 for each set of 2 bins?

and if i did per-say do that would i need 3 pumps or would there be a way for me to use my 1000G/PH?
You will need three pumps for sure. I dont think theres a way to run three separate bins from different rez with one pump.
 

Douglas.Curtis

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Only going to say this once, keep it simple and skip the perpetual idea. You'll seriously regret your perpetual, the first time you have to tear everything down, or you 'fix' your infestation and have to use treated cannabis.

Start reading about perpetual failures and keep in mind, most people don't post their failures so you're reading only a tiny percentage of actual failures. Build a second cabinet or room, you'll thank yourself.

:D
 

Nollidify

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Only going to say this once, keep it simple and skip the perpetual idea. You'll seriously regret your perpetual, the first time you have to tear everything down, or you 'fix' your infestation and have to use treated cannabis.

Start reading about perpetual failures and keep in mind, most people don't post their failures so you're reading only a tiny percentage of actual failures. Build a second cabinet or room, you'll thank yourself.

:D
sorry as i am new to most of this. what exactly is a "perpetual"? i am afraid i am not familiar with that term any further elaboration would be appreciated thank you for your time.
 

Douglas.Curtis

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sorry as i am new to most of this. what exactly is a "perpetual"? i am afraid i am not familiar with that term any further elaboration would be appreciated thank you for your time.
Perpetual is constantly rotating new and old plants in the same room.

It takes at least around 2 months of flower, that's a long time to develop pests and other issues. Every time you bring something into your flower room you're risking potential infection. I bring plants in, flower them all out and then clean the whole area and start over. Using HEPA filters on your intake vents and only checking the flower room when showered and wearing clean clothes, will drastically reduce infection risk.

Does that help? :D

The idea of perpetual is awesome, in practice it's only awesome until you have an issue. :)
 

Nollidify

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Perpetual is constantly rotating new and old plants in the same room.

It takes at least around 2 months of flower, that's a long time to develop pests and other issues. Every time you bring something into your flower room you're risking potential infection. I bring plants in, flower them all out and then clean the whole area and start over. Using HEPA filters on your intake vents and only checking the flower room when showered and wearing clean clothes, will drastically reduce infection risk.

Does that help? :D

The idea of perpetual is awesome, in practice it's only awesome until you have an issue. :)
Thank you for that explanation. With my clones i would be keeping them in the closet of the flower room. the closet has sliding doors and i plan to light proof them very thoroughly so no light mucks about with my dark cycle of flower. so would that solve the issue of bring in new plant? because they would still be in the same room as the flowering plants but just in the closet so they wouldnt be interrupting each others light schedules Thank you again for all of your input and patience here i cant express how much i appreciate it
 

Douglas.Curtis

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Thank you for that explanation. With my clones i would be keeping them in the closet of the flower room. the closet has sliding doors and i plan to light proof them very thoroughly so no light mucks about with my dark cycle of flower. so would that solve the issue of bring in new plant? because they would still be in the same room as the flowering plants but just in the closet so they wouldnt be interrupting each others light schedules Thank you again for all of your input and patience here i cant express how much i appreciate it
That setup would make it more difficult to keep things clean, yes.
Only opening up when you've showered and are wearing freshly laundered clothes will help a lot.

Definitely look into hepa filtered intakes. I would also start looking at a micro-grow box for your mums and clones. A couple 17w led lamps should be perfect. This would keep mums/clones separate, allowing you to put your 'box' in about any room of the house.
 

Nollidify

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That setup would make it more difficult to keep things clean, yes.
Only opening up when you've showered and are wearing freshly laundered clothes will help a lot.

Definitely look into hepa filtered intakes. I would also start looking at a micro-grow box for your mums and clones. A couple 17w led lamps should be perfect. This would keep mums/clones separate, allowing you to put your 'box' in about any room of the house.
ok i will definetly look into all of this and keep these things in mind whilst i revise my system
 
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