Indoor closet grow my plant is too small for being 32 days from seed!

Rebs4220

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Hi guys i got my plant which is 32 days from seed and i was wondering What could be the reason why its soo small at the age its in?

i have a Soil setup im using Black magics professional potting soil

i have 1 cfl 26 watt 2700 lums and i also have a 15watt florescent blub too

any ideas on why my plant is soo small?

i do have pics but my camera Just died how ever i will post some Asap when i read up on my post..

thanks again for the help i need it!!!
 

ylem

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any more information? you didnt mention any ventilation. this will do a number on your plants development. proper air circulation and temp is essential to plant growth speed. i've also had some drainage problems with potting soil right out of the bag. if your soil does not drain quickly enough, you might be overwatering your plant or it could be having trouble with root growth without even knowing it, and that can slow down growth to a crawl. try training a fan on it to sturdy up the stem and promote apical meristem growth. also i'd check water ph and nutrient ec to make sure the problem is'nt there. but that's just speculation since you didn't mention anything about watering or ventilation. hope some of that helps.
 

atb

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your box is too big for the amount of light your providing you can also check how far your lights are from your plants. I would recommend adding another 15watt to have two and in the middle have the 26watt if its a small grow box.
 

Rebs4220

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Hey thanks alot man that helps and your right i did not mention ventilation how ever i did have a fan from my old pc that i wired up i had it on and off for my plant but i guess ill leave it on 24/7 and see if that helps like you said?.i water my plants every 2-3 days depends on how dry the soil is but my potting soil is good it drys out pretty fast, i have nothing to check my PH which is critical for me and my room has good humidity i just think its really Too small for its age well here is 2 pics of my plant Thanks to the others for the help.

anything eles you would advise me to do? im kinda new on the whole feeding thing if you can give me the lay down that would be awesome!

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mc260377

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It should defo be a lot bigger than that for its age - even if it was left on a window ledge in sunlight it should be bigger than that. As someone mentioned above, I would add more light. The PC fan is just about going to be OK for the size of the plant at the moment but wont be sufficient when / if it gets bigger. Also, if your PH is out then the plant cannot get the needed nutrients from the soil. If you are on a tight budget then you can purchase a liquid test kit, they are nice and cheap and you can match the PH to a colour chart. If PH is too high then you will need to get it down to around 6.5. PH Down is the best for that but again, if on a tight budget you could use vinegar or lemon juice to bring the PH down on a litre of water etc.

Other than that, your problem may have occured by planting the seed to close to the top or it may just be a case of the seed being crap.

Hope that helps a bit :)
 

BustedParaphernalia

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Hi guys i got my plant which is 32 days from seed and i was wondering What could be the reason why its soo small at the age its in?

i have a Soil setup im using Black magics professional potting soil

i have 1 cfl 26 watt 2700 lums and i also have a 15watt florescent blub too

any ideas on why my plant is soo small?

i do have pics but my camera Just died how ever i will post some Asap when i read up on my post..

thanks again for the help i need it!!!
Your problem is quite clear - you do NOT have a 26W 2700 lumens CFL bulb. You misread the information. It's most likely around 1,800-2,000 lumens, and it's 2700 KELVIN, that's the color temperature, NOT the lumens. The reason you have so little growth is because when plants are in the vegetative state they need a color spectrum around 6500 to grow, NOT 2700. I recommend immediately going to your hardware store and purchasing a pack of two 6500k CFL, and make SURE that they are 6500k. You didn't do enough research before starting this, man, I hope it's not too late for you.
 

BustedParaphernalia

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One of my Sensi Kush seeds is only 3 days old but will be close to your plant's height in about another week... so for future reference, estimate its growth time at about a week and a half, like when you're considering changing to flowering times for your lights.

You will also want much better lights after a couple weeks, I recommend purchasing a HID system from HTG Supply very soon, you're going to need it. They get as cheap as $130, and definitely get just an HPS system if that's all you can afford. Buy the $130 system on HTC Supply's website and then purchase a cheap 33,000 lumens MH conversion bulb from eBay or HTG Supply or wherever you can find it cheap. While you CAN grow with just a HPS bulb, it's highly recommended to use an MH conversion bulb for vegetative growth. Make sure it's an MH CONVERSION bulb, not a regular MH bulb as it won't work with cheap ballasts, and I assume you're not going to be purchasing anything expensive any time soon.

If you can't afford any of that, try to add as many fluorescents as you can get your hands on, but you're not going to get worthwhile results unless you invest in a good system.

Good luck to you
 

Rebs4220

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Your problem is quite clear - you do NOT have a 26W 2700 lumens CFL bulb. You misread the information. It's most likely around 1,800-2,000 lumens, and it's 2700 KELVIN, that's the color temperature, NOT the lumens. The reason you have so little growth is because when plants are in the vegetative state they need a color spectrum around 6500 to grow, NOT 2700. I recommend immediately going to your hardware store and purchasing a pack of two 6500k CFL, and make SURE that they are 6500k. You didn't do enough research before starting this, man, I hope it's not too late for you.

yea that sounds about right how ever im not goin to get a HID system i Dont have that type of money to be putting out i will get my hands on some CFLS

it could be the strain of the weed? cause my other seedling is Doin much better nd looks like its goin to be more healthy then again idk
 

dk0515

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yea that sounds about right how ever im not goin to get a HID system i Dont have that type of money to be putting out i will get my hands on some CFLS

it could be the strain of the weed? cause my other seedling is Doin much better nd looks like its goin to be more healthy then again idk
What Busted is talking about are not HID's. He's talking about CFL's.

All lights have various colors. For vegetative growth you need a light bluish color light which is 6500k. For flowering you want around 4600k lights I believe or 4500k lights. I can't remember the exact number. You're probably using regular CFL lights as Busted stated. You just need to get CFL's in a different color. They look exactly the same but the specs (color) is different.
 

Rebs4220

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0ohhh i get what your sayin, well i just found a 26watt 2700 k CFL would that work out? also im leaving the Fan on the plant 24/7 nd see if that helps!
 

skit27

Member
buy some ffof and trans plant it will take right off. needs mor fert, fox farm ocean forest will do you for at least 3 -4 weeks bigger pot. then black strap molasses.
 

Rebs4220

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buy some ffof and trans plant it will take right off. needs mor fert, fox farm ocean forest will do you for at least 3 -4 weeks bigger pot. then black strap molasses.

what is ffof? and i dont need to transplant it man its in a 3-4 gal pot im good and i dont got the money for fox farm, i do got black strap molasses tho, should i give that to my plant wiith water?
 

jasonw3

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Hey im doing very similisr strain to you but mine is critical with lowryder 1 and 2 crossed with ak 47 my friend had started and got the exact same problem we put it down to lack of light so I told him I would grow them now they are bigger smell more and there a week younger than mine lol. I got a dual 125w cfl for veg phase and then a 160w 2700kelvin for flowering i got then both off ebay @ around £30 bargain :) Tellme what you think https://www.rollitup.org/members/jasonw3-342845/albums/my-first-grow-lowryder-2-cross-ak47-24131/. I got pics off them somewhere I'll put them up for you when I get a chance.
All the best with your grow and FYI these were made to be tough and that's why there a popular choice for beginners it's withstood all my mistakes so far lol. And just to let you know I got biobizz nutes from eBay for £24 Inc p&p and I got bloom, grow and topmax all 500ml bottles look like they gona last a few grows swell. And I'm not 100% on this but I heard molasses doesn't work on it's own because the roots can't break it down enough but like I said I'm on my first grow myself but I've been researching for too long lol happy growing and good luck
 

wildbill72

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0ohhh i get what your sayin, well i just found a 26watt 2700 k CFL would that work out? also im leaving the Fan on the plant 24/7 nd see if that helps!
Ok it's been said a few times here. You need more light. The 26 watt 2700 KELVIN CFL's are better used for flowering, man! You NEED at least 23watt 6500 KELVIN CFL's for veg..............Soil is not the problem, the fan is not the problem........ LIGHT IS!
 

jasonw3

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Yer I forgot to mention the 6400 kelvin spec on the cfl for veg. And also I'm using higher watts cause I got an industrial light reflector from work lol
 

Rebs4220

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Well thanks guys for the advice i appreciate it, since i guess i dont got enough lights, any way of me jus leaving it by my window and seeing if it gets the light like that?
 
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