CrackerJax
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Your beliefs violate common sense.
Indians And How The World Could Benefit.
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Woodstock.Hippie
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CrackerJax
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You don't enjoy true thinking ... 
that's quite a bit closer to the truth.
that's quite a bit closer to the truth.
Woodstock.Hippie
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You're still not convincing.
This is some B.S. I want to tell my British brother's & sisters peace. And this people whom think the American Indian's are some peace loving one with the earth. Don't know want there talking about they were killing each other over land women extra, long before the white man showed up. People are people. and all off you whom hate capitalism should leave this country and be happy somewhere else. You are deleting yourself if you think this county is going to change. so leave and be happy.
CrackerJax
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Yes, that's a true enough post. Ppl either end up demonizing or glorifying the American Indian. But it's in the middle of that spectrum that they exist, just like everyone else. They are human.
Domestication of animals in Europe is what doomed the American Indian.
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WSH ... I'm not trying to convince you. I'm just pointing out the outrageously large holes of logic in ur babble posts, ... for others to see.
Stay in skool kidz.... stay in skool.
Domestication of animals in Europe is what doomed the American Indian.
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WSH ... I'm not trying to convince you. I'm just pointing out the outrageously large holes of logic in ur babble posts, ... for others to see.
Stay in skool kidz.... stay in skool.
Woodstock.Hippie
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"
half of my lifetime
spun between dance and light
easy connections
lost in the cold twilight
clutches of powers in the rain
searching for ways to tun IT to gain
I wrestled the Devil alone
turned confused
to find him lost in the air
then
as we danced
all the stars
fell in the sea
then
as we danced
all the stars
fell in the sea
then
as we danced
all the stars
fell in the sea
torn
between madness
and the need to get away
find them
less reason
to get better every day
and no infortunes are jade
dismiss in the hall the blades she's made
I find myself alone
A man obsessed with seein' things very clear
then
as we danced
all the stars
fell in the sea
then
as we danced
all the stars
fell into the sea
then
as we danced
all the stars
fell in the sea
torn
between madness
and the need to get away
find them
less reason
to get better every day
and no infortunes are jade
dismiss in the hall the blades she's made
I find myself alone
A man obsessed with seein' things very clear
then
as we danced
all the stars
fell in the sea
then
as we danced
all the stars
fell in the sea
then
as we danced
all the stars
fell in the sea
"
"
half of my lifetime
spun between dance and light
easy connections
lost in the cold twilight
clutches of powers in the rain
searching for ways to tun IT to gain
I wrestled the Devil alone
turned confused
to find him lost in the air
then
as we danced
all the stars
fell in the sea
then
as we danced
all the stars
fell in the sea
then
as we danced
all the stars
fell in the sea
torn
between madness
and the need to get away
find them
less reason
to get better every day
and no infortunes are jade
dismiss in the hall the blades she's made
I find myself alone
A man obsessed with seein' things very clear
then
as we danced
all the stars
fell in the sea
then
as we danced
all the stars
fell into the sea
then
as we danced
all the stars
fell in the sea
torn
between madness
and the need to get away
find them
less reason
to get better every day
and no infortunes are jade
dismiss in the hall the blades she's made
I find myself alone
A man obsessed with seein' things very clear
then
as we danced
all the stars
fell in the sea
then
as we danced
all the stars
fell in the sea
then
as we danced
all the stars
fell in the sea
"
bigbird87
Active Member
New here.
The Native Americans saw the earth in a way that our Western minds have long forgotten. They saw the unity between all living things on earth and lived in a way to exist within this balance; What I call the "preservation of the community"
Our Western minds are wired for a "preservation of self". We think mainly about the survival and success of ourself, leading to greed; But many wonderful things have come out of this too including scientific discoveries, technology advancement, world exploration, etc.
Our world ecosystem collapsing at greater and greater rates today and if we do nothing, life as we know it will no longer exist. Therefore I propose a drastic change. Westerners need to change our whole mindset from the "Preservation of Self" to a "Preservation of the Community", but maintaining our desire for advancement and exploration. To do this I suggest something similar to The Venus Project, living in communities that help everyone involved; Maintaining our desire of exploration, happiness and respect for Mother Earth.
To those of you who got off track and argue the connection, or lack there of, between the physical (earth) and the meta-physical (God) I suggest reading "The Hidden Face of God" & "The Science of God" by Gerald Shroeder. It will help you understand many new advances in science today and how all scientific evidence points to the existence of an underlying unity (God) throughout all particles in the physical world. Super interesting stuff for believers and non-believers alike.
Youtube Playlist for a quick fix
Phew
The Native Americans saw the earth in a way that our Western minds have long forgotten. They saw the unity between all living things on earth and lived in a way to exist within this balance; What I call the "preservation of the community"
Our Western minds are wired for a "preservation of self". We think mainly about the survival and success of ourself, leading to greed; But many wonderful things have come out of this too including scientific discoveries, technology advancement, world exploration, etc.
Our world ecosystem collapsing at greater and greater rates today and if we do nothing, life as we know it will no longer exist. Therefore I propose a drastic change. Westerners need to change our whole mindset from the "Preservation of Self" to a "Preservation of the Community", but maintaining our desire for advancement and exploration. To do this I suggest something similar to The Venus Project, living in communities that help everyone involved; Maintaining our desire of exploration, happiness and respect for Mother Earth.
To those of you who got off track and argue the connection, or lack there of, between the physical (earth) and the meta-physical (God) I suggest reading "The Hidden Face of God" & "The Science of God" by Gerald Shroeder. It will help you understand many new advances in science today and how all scientific evidence points to the existence of an underlying unity (God) throughout all particles in the physical world. Super interesting stuff for believers and non-believers alike.
Youtube Playlist for a quick fix
Phew
CrackerJax
New Member
What happened to the North American horse, the saber Tooth Tiger...Wooly Mammoth etc etc.... man happened..... indigenous man happened.... Indians happened.
Woodstock.Hippie
New Member
CrackerJax
New Member
swishatwista
Well-Known Member
Sounds real close minded for some stoners
swishatwista
Well-Known Member
lol damn kids get your head in tha game
Sparky4u
Active Member
I practice native indian ceremonies, and one consists of sweating your fucking ass off in a sweat lodge with 24 big hot rocks/ancestors, sometimes double or triple that if the natives are truely restless...
That being said, a big bondfire is used to heat the rocks redder than your mamas ass by the time I'm done; and its a lot of lumber, let me tell ya, for about a 6 or 7 hour strong burn you cant get anywhere near it.
They sweat every full moon, and I have an equinox sweat friday night. So an average of probably 1.3 sweats per month over a given year. Not including sundance and its everyday multiple purifications.
I dont think a single tree would be left standing in the entire country if all converted to it s pratices. just my humble opinion.
Some cultures lived without a need of writing anything down(such as the Atlanteans); native indians limitedly being another one of them but for different reasons.
A question I have pondered is, how can a country full of fools like us be controlled without a zillion rules and only a handful of oral spiritual traditions to pass down and contemplate? That doesnt quell the masses, and they want jerry springer type shit occurring on a frequent basis.
Native indians still pierce to a tree for days and drag buffalo skulls around by their skin for openers, how many are ready to join me in my next sweat?
That being said, a big bondfire is used to heat the rocks redder than your mamas ass by the time I'm done; and its a lot of lumber, let me tell ya, for about a 6 or 7 hour strong burn you cant get anywhere near it.
They sweat every full moon, and I have an equinox sweat friday night. So an average of probably 1.3 sweats per month over a given year. Not including sundance and its everyday multiple purifications.
I dont think a single tree would be left standing in the entire country if all converted to it s pratices. just my humble opinion.
Some cultures lived without a need of writing anything down(such as the Atlanteans); native indians limitedly being another one of them but for different reasons.
A question I have pondered is, how can a country full of fools like us be controlled without a zillion rules and only a handful of oral spiritual traditions to pass down and contemplate? That doesnt quell the masses, and they want jerry springer type shit occurring on a frequent basis.
Native indians still pierce to a tree for days and drag buffalo skulls around by their skin for openers, how many are ready to join me in my next sweat?
Sparky4u
Active Member
Not all tribes/people need technology...
"The Dogon of Mali.
The Dogon of Mali in West Africa are a tribe of deep mystery, remarkable for their knowledge of astronomy and the unshakable belief that they were once visited by intelligent beings from the star system Sirius. Many of these claims have been the focus of sharp disagreement, and of particular contention is the fact that the Dogon knew of a white dwarf, companion star to Sirius, long before it's presence was detected by conventional astronomy. They also claim that beings from the star system Sirius paid regular visits to the tribe, imparting to them knowledge and wisdom which has proved the backbone of their culture! "
How did this tribe know this star existed, and draw it thousands of years ago when it isnt visible to any naked eye?
Ancient egypt shares the same history as christianity, and both of them pray to the same God as the native indians do;whether they can agree or not on the issue doesnt even matter.
"The Dogon of Mali.
The Dogon of Mali in West Africa are a tribe of deep mystery, remarkable for their knowledge of astronomy and the unshakable belief that they were once visited by intelligent beings from the star system Sirius. Many of these claims have been the focus of sharp disagreement, and of particular contention is the fact that the Dogon knew of a white dwarf, companion star to Sirius, long before it's presence was detected by conventional astronomy. They also claim that beings from the star system Sirius paid regular visits to the tribe, imparting to them knowledge and wisdom which has proved the backbone of their culture! "
How did this tribe know this star existed, and draw it thousands of years ago when it isnt visible to any naked eye?
Ancient egypt shares the same history as christianity, and both of them pray to the same God as the native indians do;whether they can agree or not on the issue doesnt even matter.
Sparky4u
Active Member
What if we had evolved enough spiritually to be able to be anywhere instantaniously, anytime, without any technology involved?
Technology would be a thing of the past, and without any necessary purpose in respect to our capacity to live productive/fulfilling lives.
Fabricated "man structured" sciences would serve no purpose and all theories are lost to their respective truthes; and all the crackers and morgy's of the world would be forced to finally get the bigger picture of the makeup of their genetic clothing
Dont worry, coming into consciousness is an eternity long process.Dont expect too many babysteps, and never discount your intuitions, even though they may fool you...
Technology would be a thing of the past, and without any necessary purpose in respect to our capacity to live productive/fulfilling lives.
Fabricated "man structured" sciences would serve no purpose and all theories are lost to their respective truthes; and all the crackers and morgy's of the world would be forced to finally get the bigger picture of the makeup of their genetic clothing
Dont worry, coming into consciousness is an eternity long process.Dont expect too many babysteps, and never discount your intuitions, even though they may fool you...