Indian spaceship finds water on the moon...

Big P

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September 24, 2009

India’s lunar mission finds evidence of water on the Moon


Dreams of establishing a manned Moon base could become reality within two decades after India’s first lunar mission found evidence of large quantities of water on its surface.

Data from Chandrayaan-1 also suggests that water is still being formed on the Moon. Scientists said the breakthrough — to be announced by Nasa at a press conference today — would change the face of lunar exploration.

The discovery is a significant boost for India in its space race against China. Dr Mylswamy Annadurai, the mission’s project director at the Indian Space Research Organisation in Bangalore, said: “It’s very satisfying.”

The search for water was one of the mission’s main objectives, but it was a surprise nonetheless, scientists said.The unmanned craft was equipped with Nasa’s Moon Mineralogy Mapper, designed specifically to search for water by picking up the electromagnetic radiation emitted by minerals. The M3 also made the unexpected discovery that water may still be forming on the surface of the Moon, according to scientists familiar with the mission.

“It’s very satisfying,” said Dr Mylswamy Annadurai, the project director of Chandrayaan-1 at the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) in Bangalore. “This was one of the main objectives of Chandrayaan-1, to find evidence of water on the Moon,” he told The Times.

Dr Annadurai would not provide any further details before a news conference at Nasa today from Dr Carle Pieters, a planetary geologist of Brown University who oversaw the M3.

Dr Pieters has not spoken about her results so far and was not available for comment last night, according to colleagues at Brown University. But her results are expected to cause a sensation, and to set the agenda for lunar exploration in the next decade.

They will also provide a significant boost for India as it tries to catch up with China in what many see as a 21st-century space race. “This will create a considerable stir. It was wholly unexpected,” said one scientist also involved in Chandrayaan-1. “People thought that Chandrayaan was just lagging behind the rest but the science that’s coming out, it’s going to be agenda-setting.”

Scientists have long hoped that astronauts could be based on the Moon and use water found there to drink, extract oxygen to breathe and use hydrogen as fuel.

Several studies havesuggested that there could be ice in the craters around the Moon’s poles, but scientists have been unable to confirm the suspicions.

The M3, an imaging spectrometer, was designed to search for water by detecting the electromagnetic radiation given off by different minerals on and just below the surface of the Moon. Unlike previous lunar spectrometers, it was sensitive enough to detect the presence of small amounts of water.

M3 was one of two Nasa instruments among 11 pieces of equipment from around the world on Chandrayaan-1, which was launched into orbit around the Moon in October last year. ISRO lost control of Chandrayaan-1 last month, and aborted the mission ahead of schedule, but not before M3 and the other instruments had beamed data back to Earth.

Another lunar scientist familiar with the findings said: “This is the most exciting breakthrough in at least a decade. And it will probably change the face of lunar exploration for the next decade.”

Scientists are eagerly awaiting the results of two American unmanned lunar missions, which were both launched in June, that could also prove the existence of water on the Moon.

Early results from Nasa’s Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) recorded temperatures as low as -238C (minus 396.4F) in polar craters on the Moon, according to the journal Nature. That makes them the coldest recorded spots in the solar system, even colder than the surface of Pluto, and could mean that ice has been trapped for billions of years, the journal said. The LRO has also detected an abundance of hydrogen, thought to be a key indicator of ice, at the poles.

The other Nasa mission, the Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite (LCROSS), is due to crash a probe into a polar crater on October 9 in the hope of sending up a plume of ice that can be examined by telescope.

“We are on the verge of a renaissance in our thinking about the poles of the Moon, including how water ice gets there,” Anthony Colaprete, principal investigator for LCROSS, said in Nature.
 

Cyproz

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i think this mission found large amounts of ice or something. do you really think they would forget the 1998 ice and make this a big deal? these are scientists were talking about, probably smarter then everyone on this forum.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
I predict that India will have the very first convenient store on the moon.

Moon ice should be very profitable....
 

Cyproz

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moon snow cones.

who knows maybe if you melt that ice its the nest nutrient water in the solar system and a block of it will sell for thousands
 

Big P

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Widespread water may cling to moon's surface

A large portion of the moon's surface may be covered with water. That is the surprising finding of a trio of spacecraft that have turned up evidence of trace amounts of the substance in the lunar soil.
Many scientists suspect water ice might lurk in permanently shadowed craters at the moon's poles, which play host to some of the coldest known regions in the solar system.
But new findings suggest that a small amount of water clings to lunar soil across the moon's surface. The first detection was made by India's Chandrayaan-1 probe. The spacecraft, which failed in August after less than 10 months in orbit, was the first lunar orbiter to carry an instrument capable of measuring how much light is absorbed by water-bearing minerals.
"There's nothing else it could be," says Carle Pieters of Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, leader of the Chandrayaan-1 instrument team that made the detection.
Spectral fingerprint

Chandrayaan-1 found hints of water across the lunar surface when it measured a dip in reflected sunlight at a wavelength absorbed only by water and hydroxyl, a molecule that contains one atom of hydrogen and one atom of oxygen.
But the team was not convinced they had found water. "We spent literally months digging up anything we could find that could possibly explain this feature, simply because we didn't think it was there on the surface," Pieters says.
To help verify the signature, team members turned to data collected by NASA's Cassini probe, which buzzed the moon in 1999 on its way to Saturn, and NASA's Deep Impact spacecraft, which flew past the moon in June 2009 en route to an encounter with the comet Hartley 2. Both spacecraft also showed evidence of water and hydroxyl, molecules that are likely both present on the moon.
But seemingly not in great quantities. Harvesting water from a baseball-field-sized swathe of soil might field "a nice glass of water", Pieters told New Scientist. Nonetheless, it might provide a resource for future lunar explorers.
Unexpected result

Finding water on the surface changes the bone-dry picture of the moon that had been built up since the days of the Apollo missions. "If you had told anybody three weeks ago that there was even a minuscule amount of water on the moon, they would have laughed at you," says Jennifer Sunshine of the University of Maryland at College Park and the deputy principal investigator for Deep Impact's extended mission.
Chandrayaan-1's measurements suggest that the water sits in the upper few millimetres of the lunar surface. As a result, Pieters and colleagues favour a scenario in which the water is created when hydrogen atoms carried by the solar wind slam into oxygen-rich materials in the lunar surface, combining to form hydroxyl and water.
"It's a fascinating and interesting and useful result," says Paul Spudis of the Lunar and Planetary Institute in Houston, Texas. "Basically it's opened up a whole new field of study ... that has a whole lot more questions than answers."
Creeping along

There is also evidence to suggest the water might be on the move. Deep Impact's observations suggest water might be more prevalent during the colder parts of the month-long lunar day, near sunrise and sunset. That indicates the water might be actively created and destroyed, or else may be migrating as sunlight heats it enough to release it from the minerals it was originally stuck to.
If water on the surface is mobile, it could provide a different source of water for the permanently shadowed polar craters, whose main water source is thought to have been water-bearing comets that slammed into the moon.
"Even if it takes a couple of hops or a thousand hops or a million hops, ultimately [the water] could accumulate in a nice happy place like these permanently shadowed areas, and once it gets in there it's not going to come out," says Pieters.
Icy craters?

But there is active debate on whether water lurks in the moon's dark craters. Radar signals reflected off polar craters have shown some ice-like signals. And neutrons detected by NASA's Lunar Prospector in 1998 suggested the presence of hydrogen, although it was not clear whether the atoms were locked up in water ice or in some other form.
NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, which launched in June, is now hunting for similar signatures.
NASA's LCROSS, which is set to collide with a crater on the moon's south pole on 9 October, could potentially help resolve the question. The spacecraft and the spent rocket stage it is currently shepherding will throw up plumes of debris that the spacecraft, LRO, and telescopes will scrutinise for signs of water ice.
Journal reference: Science Express (DOI:10.1126/science.1178658, science.1178105, science.1179788)
 

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
I knew if I kept adding airstones to my reservoir, some water was bound to evaporate that high eventually. No need to thank me tho.
 

flatrider

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considering the amount of craters moon has and there are ice astrodes out their, there is water in space, and no doubt some biological life form that can exist under extreme conditions given water.. this is how i tihnk life began on earth, ice astroids.. and evidence has shown meteroits hitting earth leaves amino acid protiens behind from the amount of energy.. amino acids are a building block of life.. this then grew bacteria and the cycle evolved over time,
life is just messed up, same with space and alot of other things,
trippin
 

cbtwohundread

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i went to the beach on the mo0n one time.,.it had astroid sand and and waves of stars.,.,and there herb was lovely.,.,grown directly on the sun.,.,great place to go.,.,u can only get there by space bo0t.,.,so if u dont know where to get space bo0ts pm ill tell u
 

cbtwohundread

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they need to fix problems on earth b4 we go wreck up sum other planet,.,mo0n.,.,.,outerspace greed.,.,outerspace vanity.,.,outerspace insanity
 

xmissxaliex

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Why is it weird?

Science rules!

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Yeah its awesome but that just kinda like made me feel overwhelmed cause you know, you learn that only earth has oxygen and shit and I thought that kinda meant water and such, but now water is on the moon and I don't know how that would work. :/
But I don't question science because it's not my strong point. This is just like. Woah.


P.s. GO BILL!
I remember growin up with that show lmao.
 
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