Inda-gro Induction...

hyroot

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What do you guys think about adding a 4' 2 bulb t-5 on each side of my 420s with some of those rosetta 650nm bulbs? Kinda of a poor mans pontoon. Is it a waste of time and money,would there be better bulbs to use?
If you go that route. Get zoo med flora suns. More 660. Much better than rosettas. $15 ea at drfostersmith.com. I did par t5 for over a year. The flora suns are the best.
 

Loonquawl

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I have an old camera so sorry for the crappy pics.

Day 55
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Not sure if I was supposed to, but I trimmed a ton of yellow leaves today. I hope to cut next weekend.
 

natro.hydro

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Ok so I am not officially freaking out since I have not talked to inda-gro about it, figured I would give them a day, but the tracking number they gave me does not work. I did not expect the light to be anywhere in my area but just wanted an update on where it was because I was bored and interested to see how far a package makes it in a day. Like I said the tracking number did not work, I called Fed ex and they said it could just be a mix up but the tracking number that I have is not valid, but matches what a tracking number for them should look like. He said they may have had shipping probs and this might not be the right tracking number anymore. Still kinda worrying and just posting here to vent that a little, but wtf first day from factory and it is already missing? Will contact inda-gro tomorrow hopefully they have good news...
EDIT: well someone in cali heard their name or some shit lol cuz after I finished typing this I get an e-mail with the same tracking number but it works... odd since I even called fed ex and dude thought it was whack too, oh well they must have let inda-gro know or something because I now know where my package is, sorry for the useless post since this was solved in minutes lol, if nothing else its a bump
 

Splifferous

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its my experience that the way Inda-Gro ships with FedEx is that they call in the pick up, and the tracking number is generated, but not active until the unit actually gets picked up by the truck.

either way, i'm glad it's all sorted out now. keep us posted!
 

natro.hydro

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Ya that is prob what happened spliff. Another thing that I thought was weird was that fed ex says the package weighs 5.5 lbs, when the light is 15 so where is the extra 10 lbs lol. Thought they charged shipping by the pound? Or is it dimension? would make sense either way too me... The dimensions inda-gro says for shipping all correct, except for the whole fact that the shipping weight is 23 lbs... not 5.5 oh well I am prob worrying over nothing the unit is estimated to be here in less than a week so it works perfect for when I plan on transplanting to my final container and getting ready for bloom.
I swear I have read somewhere that plants can get stressed a little when taking them from a led spectrum and putting them under a induction light can not remember where tho, anyone want to warn me before I shock my babes?
 
4zgRKLm.jpgyWKcH47.jpgxVYxQQ6.jpgDay 50 pics of plushberry and cheese quake. Waiting for the FedEx guy to show up with 420 # 4. I robbed my veg room for its 420 and added it to my bloom about a month ago. Been vegging with 2 4 bulb t-5 and gotta say they work just fine but watt for watt they don't have near the coverage that my 420 does and plants don't have that super lush indagro green color that I love
 

natro.hydro

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So the inda gro is up and running. Raised my temps a little but that is not a bad thing since I was considering a small heater if they didnt get to 70 soon. Now it sits around 80. My question is how exactly high should I have it? cuz the bulb does through off a lil heat and I have it at 26" from the container, 20ish from the plants tops so is that too close or too far? I had it a lil closer but saw a lil upcurl in my leaves of the white widow and the NYPD was starting to as well.
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Also side note, wtf is that yellow dot? Mg deficiency? I have been giving distilled water till now, just started giving them tap just never had time to let the water sit out as stupid as that sounds lol.
 

Splifferous

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So the inda gro is up and running. Raised my temps a little but that is not a bad thing since I was considering a small heater if they didnt get to 70 soon. Now it sits around 80. My question is how exactly high should I have it? cuz the bulb does through off a lil heat and I have it at 26" from the container, 20ish from the plants tops so is that too close or too far? I had it a lil closer but saw a lil upcurl in my leaves of the white widow and the NYPD was starting to as well.
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Also side note, wtf is that yellow dot? Mg deficiency? I have been giving distilled water till now, just started giving them tap just never had time to let the water sit out as stupid as that sounds lol.

you can tell a great deal about how a plant is liking it's light by how it holds it's leaves. but it's sorta a complex set of variables at play, that also involves temperature and RH.

when the light intensity and the Vapor Pressure Deficit are both agreeable, the plant will try to keep it's leaves perpendicular to the light, so that maximum absorption/photosynthesis can occur. for the sake of simplicity, i will assume that we are working in a proper VPD. if the light is more intense than the plant would like, the plant will try to shift the angle of the leaf surface from perpendicular (raise them up like their worshiping the light, or lower them in the opposite manner) to reduce light absorption and therefore photosynthesis.

now... other things can impact the leaf posture too... early Mg def will make them go "Praise Jah" with the leaves, for example; and bad rhizosphere pH. thing is that VPD issues will easily trick the uninformed gardener into assuming that they are looking at Mg or Ca def issues that can be solved by adding more, when the issue is the air is too dry or too wet...

in regard to the little one in your pic, see the larger leaves there? see how at some of the serrated edges, they curl up ever so slightly? almost like they got pressed out by a cookie cutter from underneath... it's been my experience that the plant is there showing the onset of transpiration related stress.

in a nutshell, i think we are looking at VPD stress (same for that little yellow dot). what's your light on/off temps and RH?


oh, by the way...

a friend donated me some seeds the other day. i filled a shot glass of water from the tap for each seed, and plop! in they went... one sprouted a tail by the next day!
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in short, i think your tap water may be fine from the start; just check your ppm and pH... i used to run only distilled water until i checked my tap and realized how clean Portland water really is...

:peace:
 

flaxseedoil1000

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.... if the light is more intense than the plant would like, the plant will try to shift the angle of the leaf surface from perpendicular (raise them up like their worshiping the light, or lower them in the opposite manner) to reduce light absorption and therefore photosynthesis.
Thx 4 pointing that out, noticed that on my girls, had no idea why
 

natro.hydro

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Spliff only reason I thought mg is because the yellow was there just before transplant and light change and same with the leaf curl. But if you say that is what it is then I will start their, had not given them any extra nutes yet anyways. I keep my light on 24 hours during veg, When I went in there yesterday morning after a lil more than 12 hours of being on it was 80f and about 60% humidity. The humidity stays pretty consistent since my humidifier has a hygrometer in it, 60 bucks from wal-mart forget those fancy panels lol but my temps before the light were 15 degrees less but there was not much of a way for me to slowly introduce them to the new heat, also did not know what to expect for heat from the inda. As for the curling of the edge, had not encountered that before but I think it is light/environment related since the NYPD and WW were doing it, ww more so but it is a wee bit taller, and before transplant I think they may have been slightily too close too my led but I could not raise it anymore in my tent so transplant came at the right time.
The tips of some of the newer growth on NYPD and WW have some green flaking off like the chlorophyll burst or something so I think I PAR burned them as I have been doing a lot of in this grow.... Thanks for the help spliff hopefully I will see a good amount of improvement this morning. As for the super skunk I am not sold it is having the same issues since the leaves are acting a little bit differently but do not know enough about that little knowledge of leaf movement you dropped on me. Will have a lil pic tomorrow to show if it got better or not
 
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